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Offline Gary G

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Cash for clunkers
« on: July 31, 2009, 03:42:20 PM »
Today it is announced that after only four days, the cash for clunkers program has run out of money. But, the white house press has said not to worry, congress will provide new money. Let's analyze this:

_Any government program is always a redistribution_. Now in this case whose money is redistributed? Well, the tax payers money is redistributed to other tax payers who desire to get a new car using that old clunker that is hanging around the house. The president has said that taxpayers will benefit because it makes the fleet more fuel efficient. But, since these clunkers must be destroyed, the supply of used cars will decrease causing prices to rise on used cars (theoretically by $4500 in time) thus preventing many lower income people from owning a car. Not only that, but prices of auto parts will increase as fewer used parts are available thus it will be more expensive to keep your car running.

Now, who could this redistribution be designed to help? Well, that is easy, Government Motors (GM) and the United Auto Workers Union that supported Obama.

The _unseen_ (if this money would have been left with the taxpayers):
1. What other things would have been purchased had the rightful owners (taxpayers) been allowed to keep their money; how many jobs are lost because of what is not purchased?
2. How much would have gone into savings providing capital for companies to expand production and keep employees?
3. What new discoveries have been prevented from a lack of capital for investment?
4. After the new cars are worn out, whose children will still be paying the debts?
5. How much is "clipped off" in administrative costs by government re-distributors?
6. Our government are the only ones that see prosperity in destruction. Many old cars have still have value.

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Re: Cash for clunkers
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2009, 06:13:05 PM »
One other important fact to look at. The people that trades an old clunker for a new car probably "had" to depend on that car because they couldn't afford a new one. The scam was set up to entice people to spend. If this program had never been started these car buyers would have still been driving their old beater around for a few more years. Now these people have a car payment they can't afford and a bad economy to back them up. I can see more people in a bad financial mess real soon because of this trade in program

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Re: Cash for clunkers
« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2009, 12:05:29 PM »
I heard on the radio today, from a car dealer. He cannot find a junk yard within a 60 mile radius that will accept the trade in cars so he's stuck with them. He's also still trying to jump through the hoops required to get reimbursed for the 4500 bucks he had to give them for the trade ins.
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Re: Cash for clunkers
« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2009, 12:10:16 PM »
First they suckered po folk to buy houses they couldn't afford, now it's government approved cars;  And when they can't make the payments & banks are stuck it's de-ja-vue all over again.

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The sole purpose of government is to protect your liberty. The Constitution is not to restrict the people, but to restrict government.  Ron Paul

The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first. - Thomas Jefferson

“Everyone wants to live at the expense of the State. They forget that the State lives at the expense of everyone.” — Frederic Bastiat