ccw permit holders

[dowby77]

I am just curious to know what happens in your neck of the woods,I ve gotten out of 3 out of 4 speeding tickets by informing the officer I am armed and licensed.I know I need to quit speeding.Option 5 is just for laughs thought I would throw it in there to take up space

[Brett]

Have not been stopped for speeding but we have 'license' check stops here in NC that I have been stopped at a few times.  I hand them my CCW along with my DL and the officers have just thanked me and sent me on my way.

[montveil]

Ditto on Brett.
In NC that's is what you are supposed to do.
I would add you your hands on the steering wheel after opening the window and inform the officer about your concealed carry situation. Then remove your wallet if he asks for your info.
You have to think about the officers viewpoint.

[SHOOTALL]

I have been stopped for speeding once in Va. , had time to lay gun on dash in sight . Officer ask why it was there , i said so you could see it and not have to worry about it . He said thanks then gave me the ticket and informed me i did not have to tell him i had a gun he knew it when he run my lic. . I still don't know how he knew before he walked up since i was in a company truck not mine . The several lic. checks i have been thru. i said nothing but they always ask to see permit after checking lic. I drive a diesel and the fuel check was interesting with a State police officer , DOT mem and State Tax agent . They checked my lic. then my permit . They came back to the window of the truck and ask where I had the gun , all but the State Trooper got excited when i said between my leg and the seat . The Tax guy starting to tell me he wanted the gun and the ST told him he had no authority to do anything but watch a sample being collected and if he didn't get on with it he was going to let me drive off as i was legal and had complied with the request to give a sample of my fuel. While they were taking samples (2 tanks ) the ST ask what i carried and talked for a few mins. No doubt he felt better talking so he could keep and eye on me .

I feel if you are legal its nothing wrong if local LEO's know you have a weapon as long as they are honest .

[rockbilly]

Generally, a CCW only gives you the authority to carry or have a concealed weapon on your person; it does not provide immunity from a traffic infraction.

I have been stopped twice by state police and once by a city cop. In each case I had my DL, CCW Permit, Proof of Insurance and registration ready for the officer when he approached the vehicle.  Both state troopers took the documents, went back to their car and ran me through the system, then returned and gave the documents back.  One ask what type of gun I was carrying when I told him it was Colt, Delta Elite in 10mm he asked to look at it, I gave him the gun, he looked, returned it and told me I could be on my way.  The city cop, a young rookie, almost went into a panic when I handed him the documents, he asked what the CCW permit was for, when I told him he placed his hand on his sidearm and demanded mine, I gave it to him, after a short period checking me out he came back and returned the gun.  He asked why I was carrying a “loaded” gun, I told him,  “because you can’t always be there when needed.”

[minker]

shootall , i hope i am mistaking what you posted.

if i understand it , you drive a comm. truck ? or did you just mean a diesel pickup ?

because a commercial truck driver can't legaly carry a gun anywhere in this country , even with a ccw permit in a commercial truck . federal dot laws prohibit it.

[williamlayton]

I have been stopped on Montana, La., Texas, Virginia, NM, and some where else.
I present my DL & CCW.
The only state that I got any question from was a Parrish Deputy Sherriff in Louisiana. "What's this for?" 
But then again, he didn't believe me when I told him I had no registration paper it was on the windshield.
All others have been cool.
Blessings

[Grumulkin]

In Ohio, a concealed handgun is supposed to be in a close compartment in the car or in a holster on your person so it would not be appropriate to put it on the dash.  If stopped, you are required to tell the officer there is a concealed handgun in the vehicle.

I was stopped once for speeding whilst having a concealed weapon.  I informed the officer of the weapon and she sent me on my way telling me not to speed any more and that was the end of it.

[Skunk]

Why would having  a CCW permit influence a police officer if you are caught speeding?

We of course do not have the right to carry a concealed weapon in Wisconsin, but if we did, I'm almost 100% certain that owning a permit would have zero influence on a trooper passing out speeding tickets.

[45-70.gov]

i  do  not  mention  i am  carrying

have  noticed  a few  saw  the print in  my  pocket
but  didn' say any thing

no  tickets in  last 5 pull overs

one  cop  saw my  permit  as  i got  my  driver lisence

ask  if  i was  armed

i  said  yes  he  ask  what  i had

357mag..........good round  he  said

then  told me  i was  supose to tell  him  right  away

i  told  him  i was  instructed   way  beck  when..''just  not   mention  it''

we  agreed  they  changed  the rules  too often

[mattmillerrx]

It all  depends on the cop and the situation. Some may ask for your weapon, some will ask were you have the weapon, and some will just check permit.  I would hand my permit with my dl weather asked or not.  In Oklahoma, you are required to tell the officer you are carrying.  So my thoughts are just in case he did not understand when I told him, the handing over of the permit will cover me if it is disputed.

Situation wise, if you are being a jerk you can expect the same back and your gun may be held while they check you out.

MGM

[rockbilly]

Minker.  I pushed a rig for the government for several years, and talked to a lot of drivers in trucks stops all over, most I talked to were carring some type of firearm.  I have seen AKs, ARs, shotguns and handguns of every type in some of the trucks.  Most of the drivers will tell you straight up, I will not be a victum!

[Bubber]

I have been pulled over about 2 dozen since I got my permit. Most of them were late at night and were under suspicion of drunk driving. I drive an older pickup and the steering isn't as tight as it once was so it wanders a bit, sue me. I just hand them my licsense and CWP and they ask the police questions, are you armed, where is it, ect. It takes them less than 10 seconds to realize I havn't been drinking, they run my DL and I am usually on my way.

I have only been pulled over for speeding once since I got my CWP. I wasn't going exceptionally fast, I think 55 in a 45. One of thoes where they pinch you right at the start of the reduced speed zone. Handed the guy my DL and CWP. He looked at the two, looked at me, and asked "do you know why I pulled you over?" "We" talked a bit about the nessecity of slowing down just befor the speed limit actually changes and he let me go.

I don't know if it helps or not but I do belive that it is proof that you are an honest law abiding citizen and they will be a little more lienient with you if your screwup wasn't to extream. Never have I been asked to see my firearm or been treated poorly because of it. Hey it can't hurt!

[SHOOTALL]

minker , a pu truck , it is a company owned truck but not for hire . Good point would not want someone to get bad info.

[Brett]

Here in NC your CCW is linked to your drivers license, if fact the CCW uses the same number as your drivers license.  So if (when) a cop runs your drivers license for a traffic stop he will be alerted that you have a CCW.  That is why I tell them up front.  I figure they won't be happy if they don't here it from me first. 

[SHOOTALL]

In NC i was told you have to infoem the police , I was checking on if my Va. permit was good in NC.

[Greeenriver]

In Michigan, it is a requirement that you inform the officer that you have a CCW and are carying at first contact. The CCW is also tied to your Dvr lic so he will know as soon as he runs your liscence, any way. If you are not carying, there is no requirement to inform him you have a CCW.

Now, as to your poll, I've had #1, #2, #3, and #4 all occure with diferent officers. Each handles a stop slightly diferent, and officers are human, some will be having a bad day and some will be having a good day.

However, before I retired from hauling cars interstate, the last year I worked I did recieve three speeding tickets, one MI state police, one Indiana state police, and one Il state police, each one informing me, quote, "We don't give CCW cariers breaks".  Actial words, pards.
in each case I was driving a comercial OTR truck and did not have a gun on, or with me, and as sucn, did not inform the officer I had a CCW. No reason to, I had no weapon  with me.

In all three cases, I was speeding and my only complaint was the  statement about me having a CCW permit.


Greeenriver

[Greeenriver]

Funny thing is, after retirement, I've been stoped a couple times, and informed the officer at first contact I had a CCW and was carying, and not only didn't get a ticket, usualy wound up in a nice visit talking about guns in general, cary guns, SASS, hunting, and shooting in general. Made a couple frineds from two of the stops.

Greeenriver

[dowby77]

284 views and only 15 votes  .So far its pretty even keep those votes coming

[williamlayton]

The options for voting don't have the option i use---give them the CCW with the DL.
Blessings

[Hodr]

I lay my wallet on dash and have my hands on the steering wheel.  When the officer comes up  and wants ID I tell him/her it's on dash and take out both license and permit.  Never a problem yet and never asked for gun but have been asked for location.  When off road I carry a 20 guage single shot I rebuilt from junker.  I was going through White Mountain Apache land and on the highway and Apache police stopped behind us when we were taking pictures of elk and still in Jeep.  Officer asked to see gun and then we spent 20/30 minutes talking about what and how I did it.  Nice fellow and polite to boot.  Said he had a 12 guage single at home he was going to treat the same way.  (20" barrel/ 34" overall/ 4 1/2 pounds)  Haven't had a speeding ticket since 1975.  I have had my share of being stopped at sobriety checkpoints.  I don't mind these at all and am more than willing to cooperate.

blindhari

[Empty Quiver]

There are no federal laws regarding a weapon in a semi, contrary to popular belief. There are a lot of state laws pertaining to how guns are carried in a vehicle though. In general a driver is forbidden to carry a gun by his employer. A driver is also compelled to cooperate with the rules and laws of his delivery point and pick up point. Would be difficult to comply with a 30-06 law if you have nowhere to leave the ol' blaster outside the gate.

Don't believe for a minute that all those trucks out there are unarmed. Don't believe they are all illegal by having a weapon in there possesion either. The choice to carry in a truck is personnel and don't tell is practiced by most drivers.

[williamlayton]

I have been illegal in National Parks for more years than some have lived.
Blessings

[fr3db3ar]

because a commercial truck driver can't legaly carry a gun anywhere in this country , even with a ccw permit in a commercial truck . federal dot laws prohibit it.

Would you care to link to a source for this information?  Or is this just your opinion.  Without the first....it is the latter.

[Empty Quiver]

OOIDA web site,  as well as the NRA. I have poor skills at links etc but am very interested in the subject and have done the research. Read the " green bible " it's not in there either.

[sk330lc]

I think you will Find that Most LE. Realize. What you had to go through to Get Your CCW permit.  Meaning your training, And your Backround check. Most LE. Persons are Gun people at Heart and won't give you much hastle.
I can see the Young Rookies getting excited though.

[Mikey]

Unless a experienced LEO who trains recruits can come up with hard fact and/or written lesson plans that gun owners and ccw holders are not usually disdained as crackpots, holdouts, zealots (ala obama) and 'on the edge' types and the like when recruits are introduced to the subject of gun ownership by 'civilians', my belief is that they are taught or told or the indication is made that we should all be subject to full police scruitiny. 

I really doubt that police officers are trained to acknowledge gun owners as friendly and supportive.  I fully doubt that police officers are ever taught that citizens, at least in the peoples republik of neu yawk,  go through a more thorough background check, or at least one as thorough as do police recruits before we can be licensed.  Do police recruits go through ccw courses - I sort of doubt it.  And I will never believe that police recruits are ever taught that our civilian firearms training and continued familiarization is most likely more thorough than theirs.  Maybe they think we should all be trained like they are - and the two most infamous police shootings in nyc come to mind - one with 41 shots to a unarmed immigrant trying to show his id and the other outside a nightclub into a car full of unarmed bachelor party goers and this one included a 'reload'..

I don't know, but I'm inclinded to think that most who wear blue uniforms feel they are somewhat superior to the average citizen.  I remember how my fully decorated dress greens were seen as 'disturbing' when I moved through the airport some 35 years ago and I am more inclinded to think that now that the police uniforms have gone from blue to squat black fatigues that military dress greens are viewed with a even more jaundiced eye. 

I have never seen one police officer at any airport or train station ever offer to assist a injured GI - most are like the average citizen, they just watch this poor sob try to make his way through the crowds while he is on crutches or 'gimpin' along and they rarely if ever afford them the courtesy of stepping aside when a GI tries to get by - that job is left to those civilians who wish to help or to military families, or to no one at all. 

[williamlayton]

The times, they are achangin.
City police are as unfamilar with firearms, as a general rule, when they come onto the force, as any group in this country.
They see a weapon as power and anyone else who may own one as challengeing that power.
If they happen to grow up in a culture that teaches that a weapon is not power, but a right, to be treated with respect and safety, they most likely do not give into this culture.
Small town deputies are one of the worse to attach their ego to a gun.
I give every police officer the benifit of the doubt and recognize theirs is a potentially dangerous job at each and every stop.
I do not expect friendliness but a professional approach too the job. That said I don't expect bullying or agressiveness either.
Give these boys a chance to breath and access each and every situation with calmness. Show them the CCW and DL, help make the stop less stressful.
Remember, 99% of the time we give them cause to stop us.
That young police office in Montana that stopped me at 5am because I was acting confused approacched me with great caution. I put my open hands out the window to give him stress release.  gave him evertything and waited until he told me ehat to do and asked me questions.
That young State Trooper in Va. pulled me over at about 5 am for much the same reason--I was driving irradically and acting confused. I treated her with the same approach. Neither knew me or what was going on and I was confused, in both cases. the outcome of both was peaceful and professional.
Blessings

[rawhidekid]

Here in Arizona we have had the right to carry as long as any part of the gun OR holster showed.  After we got the CCWs we had some growing pains.  People have reported things like tickets for concealing a handgun that was in a holster on the right side when officer aproached drivers window, passengers getting tickets for guns in glove box when driver had CCW but passenger did not.  Once there was a case were a fellow in a store with handgun in holster on hip kept turning his hip away from officer and was tiketed for concealing a weapon!  I was shooting at a local spot and had the police arive with lights flashing and stopped shooting layed the rifle against the car and provided all required documents.  Twenty minutes later I was given the all clear.  I had no problem with this as I figured they were just doing their job.  But when I left later and saw I was being followed after passing the checks it did piss me off!  Most the time you have no problems, when planning a trip though four states I called to check reciprocity on my CCW.  The states which at that time did not have it simply said to keep the gun in the car and no one would care!  I complied and had no problem.

[kitchawan kid]

Some of the reason for many views and few votes are some of us live where we don't have the right to carry,as in N.Y.