ccw permit holders

[Avyctes]

I haven't been pulled over since I started carrying, whilst having a gun on me.

A couple of years ago I left work (where I am not allowed to have a firearm in my vehicle, yeah one of those onerous situations) to pick up my kid at day care.  Unknowingly, I had forgot to put my registration sticker on my tag after renewing, had left it in my glove box, and had a officer of the Princeton constabulary pull in behind me at the day care. 

We bantered about my dead tag sticker, but he never once asked me if I had my firearm on me, which I didn't. 

I obey all laws regarding carrying, even what I believe to be an overly severe one by my employer.  I only hope that eventually VA (where I work, not live) will pass the law that a couple of states have passed that prevent companies from being able to deny your having a firearm in your vehicle if the State permits it.

[GRIMJIM]

Some of the reason for many views and few votes are some of us live where we don't have the right to carry,as in N.Y.

Yep, that's me right there.

To the fellow that got stopped in Illinois and was told he wouldn't get special treatment because of his ccw. He's lucky he wasn't armed. Illinois does not recognize ccw permits and he probably would have arrested him.

[45-70.gov]

I haven't been pulled over since I started carrying, whilst having a gun on me.

A couple of years ago I left work (where I am not allowed to have a firearm in my vehicle, yeah one of those onerous situations) to pick up my kid at day care.  Unknowingly, I had forgot to put my registration sticker on my tag after renewing, had left it in my glove box, and had a officer of the Princeton constabulary pull in behind me at the day care. 

We bantered about my dead tag sticker, but he never once asked me if I had my firearm on me, which I didn't. 

I obey all laws regarding carrying, even what I believe to be an overly severe one by my employer.  I only hope that eventually VA (where I work, not live) will pass the law that a couple of states have passed that prevent companies from being able to deny your having a firearm in your vehicle if the State permits it.

when was the last time your employer  searched  your car?

[v-man]

Another reason for not voting is that some of us aren't getting pulled over. Never been pulled over in 12 years with a CCW. Most of those years driving Corvettes. Wife got pulled over outside Tallahassee last year. Officer saw her blue striped ID as she pulled out her DL. He asked if she was carrying and she said "absolutley". He asked to see it and she showed him. He said good for you, gave her a ticket and sent her on her way.

[oldhunter]

Several years ago, I was waiting in line at a roadblock in rural NY State.  A young lady NYS Trooper worked her way to my truck and after visually inspecting my tires and windshield inspection and registration sticker, she looked at me and casually asked me how I was doing and other small talk.  She then also asked if I had any guns in the truck.  I told her I had a NYS Pistol Permit and had a loaded pistol under my seat.  She then changed her attitude and told me to keep my hands on the steering wheel while she opened my door and removed the Bersa .380.  She unloaded it and asked to see my permit and DL.  After comparing the serial number on the permit with the gun, she handed everything back to me and moved on to the next car in line.  Later while thinking about what happened, I remember her actions changed from friendly to very offical and cautious when she realized I had a firearm in the vehicle.  In my opinion, she did everything correct and as I tried to put myself in her position, I fully understand and appreciate what the LEO's must go through when approaching the occupants of a vehicle without knowing what could occur next.

oldhunter 

[kitchawan kid]

You were lucky, in N.Y. the laws vary from county to county, your CCW would not be honored all over the state,as in Westchester and N.Y.C. also if you have a Westchester permit it is not good else where in the state.This is one of the worst problems in N.Y.

[Brett]

I haven't been pulled over since I started carrying, whilst having a gun on me.

A couple of years ago I left work (where I am not allowed to have a firearm in my vehicle, yeah one of those onerous situations) to pick up my kid at day care.  Unknowingly, I had forgot to put my registration sticker on my tag after renewing, had left it in my glove box, and had a officer of the Princeton constabulary pull in behind me at the day care. 

We bantered about my dead tag sticker, but he never once asked me if I had my firearm on me, which I didn't. 

I obey all laws regarding carrying, even what I believe to be an overly severe one by my employer.  I only hope that eventually VA (where I work, not live) will pass the law that a couple of states have passed that prevent companies from being able to deny your having a firearm in your vehicle if the State permits it.

when was the last time your employer  searched  your car?

For that matter when was the last time your employer searched you?  Or do you have to pass threw a metal detector on your way into work?   Concealed means just that, nobody knows I have a gun on me except maybe my wife but she knows I always carry so that doesn't really count. 

[kevthebassman]

Can't say I've been pulled over since I got my CCW.  I've only been stopped twice in my life.

[williamlayton]

I don't know how you folks manage to do it. My wife, The Hen, has NEVER had a ticket and she drives faster than I do.
Blessings

[Empty Quiver]

My employer has never searched me, the policy is pretty clear on being fired if found with a weapon though. I have a pretty good job, especially in this economy, losing it would be a heck of a hardship. For me, right now, carrying on the job can't happen. Besides company policy, it would involve breaking the law in several of the states I travel in.

I do the best I can with what I have to work with, as far as rules are concerned. Don't ask don't tell is a foundational stone that concealed carry must be built upon. It kinda annoys me when the wife asks if I am carrying. Typical answer is, are you? Meaning who's gonna be covering me while I'm covering you. I firmly believe that one in ten thousand will make you, one in a hundred of those who make you will care. I have carried into stadium events, nothing, zip, nada. Kid asks daddy you have your gun? Three mall walkers are giving you the stink eye now. Still no real issue, but if Empty jr were quiet...

Unless it is required, by law, to disclose your having a gun, it is no ones business but your own. I sure wouldn't count on your carry permit being a free speeding pass, polite and appoligetic as well as a little remorse, will do more good. Being over 25 seems to have helped me as much as anything though, and a truck governed at 62 doesn't hurt either.

[john keyes]

I've had ONE officer take it and hold it until he cut me loose. the other ones didn't care after I told them. Game Wardens too.  However I very succinctly ANNOUNCE EVERY MOVE I AM FIXING TO MAKE, CCW or not. I have long hair and drive OLD vehicles (that run good  ) and I do not like "misunderstandings"

[45-70.gov]

i have carried my 357  under the goal post at the Jaguares football statium at a private party once

thata  a bad pert of down  won't catch me there un armed

[aromakr]

As has been said, it all depends what part of the country you live in. In Montana we are required to inform the officer that you are carrying. An incident happened to a friend of mine in state. He was pulled over by a state trouper, he did not have a ccw, (however in Montana your car is considered part of your home and carrying a loaded gun in the vehicle without a ccw is legal.) Before opening the glove box  to retrieve his registration he informed the officer there was a pistol inside but it was unloaded. The trouper told him,"carrying and empty gun like that could get him killed, and too keep it loaded." Location, location, location.
Bob

[Empty Quiver]

Hope your friend heeded the Troopers advice. I have found that most law enforcement appreciates being treated as humans, I speak to them in about the same tone as I would  my parents. They aren't Gods but they are in charge for a while the sooner a person accepts that the sooner the stop is over and cops become your friends. Think about a parent child relationship from a cop perspective for a while, it'll make sense if you have kids anyway.

[Avyctes]

Apparently from the comments 'When was the last time your employer searched your car?' or 'For that matter when was the last time your employer searched you?', some folks are settled enough that they don't have to worry about not having a job. 

Perhaps you're retired, perhaps you've won the lottery, perhaps you work at Piggly Wiggly and jobs for you are a dime a dozen,  I don't know. 

But I've been with this company since I got out of college, and I'm 40 now.  You can do the math I hope. 

This company has a no-excuses-accepted, automatic termination policy for having a weapon on the premises.   Period.  I don't like it, but there it is.  I have a wife who works part time, one twelve year old, and a daughter on the way.  I am the primary provider.  I carry the insurance that will pay for my daughter's birth in Jan. 2010.  I can go no where else in this area and make what I make now.  I have about 18 years worth of earning vacation time and raises behind my belt here.

That's asking a person to assume a lot of risk. 

And if you are advising someone, based on your replies, to disregard no-carry zones, you are giving some extremely careless and dangerous advise.  You are asking someone to risk losing their livelihood, legal carry ability, perhaps take on some jail time depending on where they carelessly choose to ignore the law and/or rules of the land owners. 

I saw a similar mentality recently in regard to the Amtrak carry-on story where the guy was like 'Well, before, you could just carry it on, they didn't know and they didn't have metal detectors.  Now you'll have to go through a metal detector'.  My reply to that was the same as to this.  We who carry should always be above reproach, we should set the example, we should follow the rules.  When we start carrying illegally all we do is give the liberal anti-gun community fuel for their stake burnings, plus we risk losing a precious, for now, right.

My advise to you guys is keep your advise to yourself, if that's the best you can offer.  Seriously.

[john keyes]

years ago I got out of grad school and started my first "big time" job.  Of course I carried an old 686 in my truck, well after I  had been there for a couple of months I found out we were forbidden to have guns on the premises. 
With this in mind I went to see the director of R&D and asked him about it.  He said, "yes, thats right, we don't allow guns here at work because the wrong people might get shot".

 

[Noreaster]

I'm a municiple police officer. The reason you may not get a ticket when you have a CCW is that the officer will know you are not a nitwit, (you've been through the background check and have a clean record.) But many police officers will not understand. Many police officers consider their own firearm a piece of equipment they have to carry, much like a flashlight, they are not "gun guys."

The job has changed over the last twenty years from blue collar guys, many just out of the service, to college grads with no life experience.

[mechanic]

A question along these lines for some of you more experienced.  How does the military treat CCW on base?  I often have to go onto a base to work, and so far have never been asked.

[45-70.gov]

A question along these lines for some of you more experienced.  How does the military treat CCW on base?  I often have to go onto a base to work, and so far have never been asked.

navy  bases  in  jax  and  kings bay  ga

NO



NO



NO

ONCE  GOT SCOLDED  FOR A POCKET KNIFE  ON  THE  DASH

[rawhidekid]

On Davis Monthan AFB in Tucson, Az they used to require the handgun empty locked in one compartment the ammo in a seperate compartment.  This was told to me buy the Security Police when we first got the CCW's.  I haven't checked to see if things have changed, I try not to carry when going on base.

[Mikey]

Kitchawan: Upstate permits are good anywhere upstate.  The only 'floater' in the pool is nyc.  Your Westchester County ccw is good anywhere else upstate;  Erie County permits are good in Westchester and anywhere between except 'Moving Target Zones (gun free zones), and your Westchester permit is good anywhere else upstate.  If you are stopped and checked out, and you are legal, then you are legal regardless of what the local leo who stopped you sez.  He ain't the issuing judge....... 

Upstate permits are not good in nyc and I don't really know, or care, if nyc permits are 'good' upstate.  I feel that if we cannot legally carry in nyc then they should not be allowed to carry legally upstate and this should include off duty police.  Let them take it through the New York State Police for permission to carry upstate:  if it's a leo on duty that is one thing; a leo off duty is another thing and a plain ol ccw carrying nyc resident should be permanently banned from ever leaving nyc with a gun..... jmtcw.

[BIGDAVE54]

Here in my home state of South Carolina it is the law that...Every or any person approached by a law enforcement officer and asked to show any kind of I.D. should immediayely inform the officer that they are armed and have a valid CCW permit. I have been stopped once in the last 14 years since I have had a CCW. It was about one A.M. and I was passing through a small town named Lexington,S.C.. I was in a company van and was working for an engineering company that did test and balance on HVAC systems. I had been to a school in Hilton Head,SC and was on the way to a school in Apex,NC to do a final check out and turn on newly installed heating equipment. It was fall of the year and I was in a hurry to get the heat turned on for the kids at these schools. I was abut 5 miles from home and expected to stop grab a shower and a nap and hit the road north to Apex...About the time I had made my plan  the back window lit up with blue lights. I was a lil nervous because I had already head BS stories about bad stuff happenong to CCW carriers out late at night. It was a SC state trooper. He slowly walked up the side of the van and asked to see my ID. I started telling him that I was told by my police instructor to tell him I was armed and handed him my license with my CCW on top. He asked me if I had a weapon on me and I told him I did.He asked where it was. I told him I had a 5 shot snubby in my rt. front pants pocket. He smiled and said "Just leave it in your pocket friend and everything will be alright here tonight." He told me I had a tag light out on the van and I should get it fixed before long or I would keep get ting pulled over. He also said he wished me a safe journey and was just going to give me a warning ticket. I don't think I have ever had a nicer experience of that kind considering the time of night and the circumstances. I was a policeman in the military and have performed police duties as an armed guard at the state farmers market and a few state builldings. I am a firm believer that we as the breakers of the law ...however frivilous the law control about 99% of the outcome of these things. If it is a young  or undertrained policeman we shold try to be tactful and sympathetic to the cause. You can't possibly be a smart alleck or pushy and expect a good situation to come from these events...it's just common sense.(BTW..Concealed weapons of any type are not allowed in schools in SC.I always made sure any weapons I had were stowed in a locked metal trunk and never carried a weapon any where near a school here. Any person traveling in SC is expected to obey the weapons laws of this state. Always inform a police person you are carrying,no weapons in schools,drs. offices,polling places,police stations or jails,and for now none in resteraunts or bars  that sell booze..the state does not distinguish between a bar and a resteraunt that sells drinks....but we are working on it)

[Mikey]

Sounds like South Carolina is gettin' right up there with the number of "Moving Target Zones' where you can't carry a gun to defend yourself.  Geez, is bloomberg travelling south or something?  Has South Carolina become the neu yawk of the south? 

How many schools, doctors offices, and restaurants have been the site of mass shootings of unarmed civilians.  People just do not learn.  The only time you are safe is when you can defend yourself, not when some fool makes a law that says you can't. 

I guess it's a good idea that the speed limit on I-95 through South Carolina is 70 and that you can make it through without stopping for gas.

[Brett]

Sounds like South Carolina is gettin' right up there with the number of "Moving Target Zones' where you can't carry a gun to defend yourself.  Geez, is bloomberg travelling south or something?  Has South Carolina become the neu yawk of the south? 

How many schools, doctors offices, and restaurants have been the site of mass shootings of unarmed civilians.  People just do not learn.  The only time you are safe is when you can defend yourself, not when some fool makes a law that says you can't. 

I guess it's a good idea that the speed limit on I-95 through South Carolina is 70 and that you can make it through without stopping for gas.

North Carolina has all the same rules mentioned plus no CC in any public venue that charges an admission such as movie theaters or sports arenas. 

[williamlayton]

Now, you folks do as you wish.
I carried in Texas for 35 years without benefit of any kind of lis.--- I kept and keep a weapon in the car of public parking where guns are not allowed---I respect an employer, BUT, going postal is against the law and it still happens.
Saying you can't does not mean squat to someone who is intent on larceny.
They passed a law in Texas saying that an employer could not prohibit a weapon in a locked car on private property.
Am I saying it is OK to break the law??
You folks do as you wish.
Blessings

[Big Nasty]

I really do not have any problems where I live. I guess the reason is I am a Reserve Sheriff's Deputy, and they and city officers all know me and know I carry. For other places I don't know I try real hard not to break the law and get pulled over. Remember you don't have to be breaking the law per say to get pulled over and there are many reasons for this. 1 quick example, your car fits a description given to officers as a BOLO... Be On Look Out. In this state KS you don't have to tell the officer unless he asks, but remember if you don't you could have problems. The problems could be one of many, the officer thinks something stinks ask to search your vehicle you say OK. You think and know you are fine but to make him happy you allow it. He finds your weapon and since you never disclosed that information he instantly thinks what is this guy hiding. Please nobody come back with, he aint searching my vehicle without a warrant. I have asked many people and have never had anyone say no. Also if you go with the warrant card it is well within your rights 4th amendment unreasonable search and seizure. Just remember if he chooses he can say ( OK no problem please step out of the car no you are not under arrest just waiting on the warrant to arrive ) because you just gave probable cause, no you really didn't but think if you were the officer and someone said that to you what would you think. It is all up to the judge he may say hell no or he may allow it. Now if anything is in plain site he does not need the warrant but can not look in any closed compartment without consent or a warrant. If the vehicle is towed the officer can do what is called a vehicle inventory report with no warrant searching everything so no one can say they had valuables that are no longer there. If something is found here comes the warrant to lawfully take it. The officer may or may not take the item then so nobody else gets it, it's officers discretion.

One thing to always remember DO NOT OPEN THE GLOVE BOX IF YOUR WEAPON IS IN THERE WITHOUT TELLING THE OFFICER FIRST if you do you will and I mean you will visit the asphalt and the business end of his duty weapon.

and once again another case of don't know when to shut up, gees I need to throw away this key board.

The officer want to go home at the end of his shift alive, and put the shoe on the other foot if it were you how do you want to go home and the end of your shift happy to see your family or your family to see you in a box. It is just a job like any other they get paid to go to work and the laws are the company hand book if you don't follow the rules/laws you get fired.

[kiddekop]

We were informed in LE our liability classes to notify the officer if stopped that we're armed & have credentials, then follow the officers instructions.I've had liability classes for 37 years in calif and we've been told to only use reloaded ammo for practise, buy factory ammo for carrying concealed.

[kiddekop]

Some of the reason for many views and few votes are some of us live where we don't have the right to carry,as in N.Y.

Yep, that's me right there.

To the fellow that got stopped in Illinois and was told he wouldn't get special treatment because of his ccw. He's lucky he wasn't armed. Illinois does not recognize ccw permits and he probably would have arrested him.

We took a mh trip east several years back and thought we'd stay in NYS so I contacted the NY State Police informing them I'm a retired peace officer with credentials & ccw.I was told not to carry it just leave in the mh.We decided later not to drive into NYS with the mh,we left it with friends in another state.

[kiddekop]

You were lucky, in N.Y. the laws vary from county to county, your CCW would not be honored all over the state,as in Westchester and N.Y.C. also if you have a Westchester permit it is not good else where in the state.This is one of the worst problems in N.Y.

My ccw issued in Orange County wasn't good in NYC but at the time I was a deputy probation officer working for the judge who issued me the ccw that I requested for protection . He wrote on it only good for going to and from the range but he failed to specify which range,found out there were a lot of ranges in nys especially in areas I frequented  for fishing & hunting.

[ronbow]

I can't vote because I would never show the CCw permit unless asked. My piece(s) are always out of sight and actually it's none of the LEO's business because he would be stopping me for traffic purposes.