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Re: "Quik Clot" for your survival supply kit?
« Reply #30 on: September 06, 2010, 05:03:33 PM »
Does the military or any supplier have a device like this?

It would be like a bicycle tube but cut in two. Have a knot and a string on one end with a long thin rod/needle attached to the string. Like a big sewing needle then a string then the string attached to the bike tube. The needle could be run through a through a body wound and pull the string then the tube through the wound.

When the tube is showing on the entry and the exit side of the wound CO2 or other gas could be injected into the tube to make it blow up and apply pressure internally to the wound to stop internal bleeding until a surgery suite could be reached. There could be a flat disc to attach to the tube on each side of the body to keep the tube from retracting back into the body when the tube was inflated.

The inner tub  could be made of super expandable material so as to fill the inner cavity where least pressure was encountered. The tube could be treated with a clotting agent.

Just a thought I have had for a long time. eddiegjr
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Re: "Quik Clot" for your survival supply kit?
« Reply #31 on: September 13, 2010, 11:56:28 PM »
I guess not . eddiegjr
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Re: "Quik Clot" for your survival supply kit?
« Reply #32 on: September 14, 2010, 06:15:47 PM »
Doesn't sound half bad, but you leave a lot of opening for pulling debris and germs in with the inner tube.  I'd think, for most bullet sized wounds/knife wounds, a narrow tire 10 speed bike inner tube would be a better size.  The only other thing you'd have to be quite cautious of is over expanding the tube and actually causing damage.  Typically, the military anyway, uses a large pad with wraps that you can put around and knotted properly, it keeps pressure on top of the wound.  They teach that if you have a "sucking chest wound", in other words direct hole into the lungs, then you add  the plastic wrapper that the pad comes in on top of the hole to help seal it first.  Introducing foreign objects into a person's body is almost guaranteed to bring on infection etc.  8)  Perhaps a sterilized version all sealed up could work better if it had a pressure relief to avoid the over expansion.  8)
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Re: "Quik Clot" for your survival supply kit?
« Reply #33 on: September 14, 2010, 07:10:57 PM »
this what is in my kit, 4 triangular bandages, 8 pkgs of 2 4x4s, 2 Kotex pads, 1 military tourniquet, asst band aids. i have been a paramedic for 22 years, having responded to numerous accidental(and intentional GSW over the years the best treatment for bleeding is direct pressure, on extremities military style tourniquets are proven for decreasing mortality, stay away from plastic type go for the metal and web type, kotex pads absorb a lot of blood. even with 200,000 ambulances, basic boy scout first aid practices still prevail. Our state medical director a military trauma surgeon advised us against  using blood stopper agents but okay-ed the use of the blood stopper bandages
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Re: "Quik Clot" for your survival supply kit?
« Reply #34 on: November 01, 2010, 05:56:06 AM »
As an EMT I saw an 8" gash to the head with arterial spray...lots of blood soaking through.  2 quick clot pads to the wound worked way better than 4x4s, ice and direct pressure.

One problem with direct pressure is you tie up your hands when you could be doing other things (vitals, transporting, etc.)
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