I never pay more than $200 for handirifles around here and usually get them with cheap scopes for that. My 357 had a 4x Simmons, sights,SB2 but a few scuffs, minor rust spots on the barrel-$200 local classifieds. It's the flat black frame though and the trigger is about 5#(223s is about 2.5#),but damn does it shoot! Trimmed Max brass to 1.485 inches to match the chamber but haven't got into developing a load for it yet, having too much fun cloverleafing 38s at 50 yards or popping spent 12 gauge hulls with 357s. I did swap the 357s sythetic stock with the 223s wood. Ruggeder, lighter, better shape but not nearly as pretty as the wood. I've got another stock to refinish/recontour already so sythetic it is. The 357 barrel will get a home on my next case colored shotgun frame. A guy's selling a 28 gauge nearby. Hmmm? Thought about pushing some 54 cal lead balls over the wads. Another crazy idea. 223 needs some 200 yard proving first.