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Night latch description.
« on: September 30, 2003, 04:16:17 AM »
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Iv'e read alot about night latches on this forum. I'd like to night latch some of my traps, but don't want to mess them up. Can someone post a photo or a drawing along with detailed how- to info? I'd much appreciate the help.

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« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2003, 04:54:51 AM »
my understanding of these is that they are similar to the secondary trigger on some rifles. Night latches on trap dogs are a secondary notch filed slightly "lower" and on the very end of the dog itself. To set or activate the night latch then, you place the dog on the higher or farther back level from the dog tip. Then, by slightly pulling down on the pan trigger, the point where the pan is contacting with the dog will slide down toward the tip of the dog farther until it slips down into this lower stepped down filed section on the end of the dog. You should here a "click" when the pan area engages in this lower night latch part of the dog. This night latch set position is the final firing position of the trap. The reason it is called a night latch is that you can set this trap, pull down on the pan until you hear that second "click", and know that it is set without having to "see" the assembly.
The top and the tip of the dog, seen from the side, should look like this:
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Pretty rough drawing, but that is the idea. That the rear-most top portion of end of the dog is the initial first setting position, the secondary notched area is the "night-latch" set position. When the pan area engages down into that filed notch, you hear the "click".
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« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2003, 04:56:53 AM »
That "middle line" in the drawing needs to slide to the right about 5 or 6 positions, should look like a stair step downward to the right.
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« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2003, 06:18:21 AM »
Here's a link for all modification descriptions. The night latch is section 9

http://www.traps4kids.com/modifications.html
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« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2003, 06:47:50 AM »
Nice link, Mallard. Great photos of several different modifications shown.
I have pans on a lot of my traps similar to BMI models, so is easier to notch the dog rather than the pans. I think BMI's come with a little "button" on the top of the dog that serves the same purpose.
Again, very cool link to demonstrate how to make night latches with photos.
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« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2003, 07:19:23 AM »
Jim, I have considered doing as you described as far as notching the dog instead of the dog notch, but haven't tried it yet. It's easy to screw up a second notch inside the dog notch, but it would seem easier and more precise to mill a flat on the dog. Wish I would have played with that concept about 200 traps ago. LOL. I have found that a poor "night latch" angle will result in fired traps after you leave the set. Not good.....
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« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2003, 08:25:56 AM »
Mallard raises a good point ..."the angle" of the notch.  In the link it shows the night latch as 90 degress to the factory notch.  If a fellow holds his file at  an angle such that the night latch is cut "deeper"  at the factory notch than at the "night latch" you can get a good angle.  (The flat file will cut both angles at the same time).  By getting this angle you can realy reduce the amount of travel needed to set / fire the trap.  Combined with good pan tension and you have a very effective set up.

I have some BMI traps with those "other type" pans and I did just what Jim suggested..filed the notch into the dog; they work fine.  The pan / dogs with the bottons are paws I trips  yes? no?

Mallard, been killin any kin folk yet this season?

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« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2003, 08:40:37 AM »
Yep wacky,those are pit pans.Great system to use and fairly reasonable on new traps.
The aftermarket ones,however,will add about $4 per trap.Ultimately worth it,but thats still a lot of jing.

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« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2003, 12:30:49 AM »
WQ, Not until Saturday, but did manage to put the kids on a couple for the youth hunt and the geese seem to be in good numbers this year. You started yet?
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« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2003, 03:35:52 AM »
Just early teal; I just love the way those little buzz balls twist me in knots.

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« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2003, 11:00:05 AM »
the trouble with those little fine notces, etc- is that the first coon/cooyte chews it past the point of use. Its bad enough touching up just a basic quick fire notch.  A true night latch might be suited best to non chewers- rats, mink, beaver
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« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2003, 03:17:35 PM »
Thanks guys for the help!

Mallard the web site you high-lited was great. The pictures said it all.

Once again the information everyone offered was very helpful.

Every.