Author Topic: Bouncing balls... (Read 3145 times)

KABAR2 · « **Reply #30 on:** August 15, 2009, 11:31:42 AM »

Quote from: thelionspaw on August 15, 2009, 07:56:10 AM

Nihil simplex umquam est. Ich erhalte gebohrt!

So true! And don't! Your a creative fellow.......

If this keeps up a few people will have to learn Latin & German.....

dan610324 · « **Reply #31 on:** August 15, 2009, 12:56:34 PM »

could you translate "DEI GRATIA" for me ??

thelionspaw · « **Reply #32 on:** August 15, 2009, 01:03:37 PM »

"By the Grace of God". Av Guds Nade.

RocklockI · « **Reply #33 on:** August 15, 2009, 01:42:00 PM »

good one dan , it's late over there ....how bout , "in vino veritas".

dan610324 · « **Reply #34 on:** August 15, 2009, 01:48:28 PM »

I dont know a word latin , but I suppose that vino is wine .
so I take another zip of my glass with lemon water and goes to bed now
its almost 2 am here now
goodnight

Cannoneer · « **Reply #35 on:** August 15, 2009, 02:05:57 PM »

Hey you clowns are a regular laugh riot,

did you gents not read BoomLover's epistle to the profane. The fun is over boys, this is serious business, and Gary and I are going to provide the likes of you with no more titillating entertainment. Victor would also like things to take a more somber tone, after all there are no squirrels involved in this thread, at least not the furry kind.

Then of course there's the pronouncement that Gary and I were evidently under the influence of certain beverages. Well I can't speak for Gary, but I sure can for myself, and I didn't so much as tip a glass yesterday, and to be fair to Gary, I don't see what in his posts would lead anyone to suspect he was drunk either, they're his usual posts except for the fact that he was evidently a little miffed at me; and why was that? Well, Dan got the BALL (forgive me BoomLover, truth is, I'm beyond redemption) rolling by bringing up Gary's golf ball adventure, then Richard the Innocent was curious, and wanted to know about Gary's adventure, and I, jack-ass that I am, spent half an hour and found it for him, (BTW Rich, you're more than welcome, it was my pleasure) wherupon my good buddy Allen decided to bump the thread to the top of the front page, (for what reason I'm still not sure) whereupon Gary (I guess) assumed I did it, and also assumed that I was trying to humiliate him. Gary I'd like to state here that that was not my intention, it really wasn't.

BTW, Dan, please tell me that you weren't serious when you said that my behavior caused you to raise a glass, I don't think I could bear the burden of shouldering that kind of guilt.

So, now I think I'll just sit back and observe the hilarious antics of our three comrades as they amuse themselves, and me with their ongoing schtick.

Double D · « **Reply #36 on:** August 15, 2009, 03:57:44 PM »

Cannons?

KABAR2 · « **Reply #37 on:** August 15, 2009, 09:07:15 PM »

Quote from: Boom J on August 15, 2009, 02:05:57 PM

wherupon my good buddy Allen decided to bump the thread to the top of the front page, (for what reason I'm still not sure) whereupon Gary (I guess) assumed I did it, and also assumed that I was trying to humiliate him. Gary I'd like to state here that that was not my intention, it really wasn't.

was not my intention to humiliate anyone, I just thought I would bring the original thread over and my bit of humble verse how that started all the rest I have no clue........

So back to CANNONS....... anyone else have a bounce to report?

Cannoneer · « **Reply #38 on:** August 15, 2009, 09:39:38 PM »

I was just going to continue this nonsense, I guess ad nauseum, but on second thought I'll take DD's advice!

Victor3 · « **Reply #39 on:** August 15, 2009, 09:45:26 PM »

"Victor would also like things to take a more somber tone..."

Don't pay me no mind Boom J; I'm more apt to take a topic on a ride than most

Anyone who's been around guns and/or cannons for any lenth of time should be well aware of (or experienced) the dangers posed by rebounding projectiles anyway. I'm sure it's mentioned in the safety sticky for the new guys.

Cannoneer · « **Reply #40 on:** August 15, 2009, 10:40:24 PM »

Thanks Victor, I appreciate that. Here I'm posting this one just for you, so you can start this fine Sunday off with a smile.

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carronader · « **Reply #41 on:** August 15, 2009, 11:41:17 PM »

Hope someone knows Hungarian.........(no joke) only info I got on these photos is a small tag in Hungarian

Victor3 · « **Reply #42 on:** August 15, 2009, 11:46:11 PM »

CANNONS, Boom J

DD has already fired a shot across the bow, so let's keep it cool...

dan610324 · « **Reply #43 on:** August 16, 2009, 12:17:31 AM »

I think latin is cannon related as most of the writing on old cannons are latin
how often havent you read "ME FECIT" at a cannon barrel ??
"DEI GRATIA" was another line that I read on a cannon barrel , just didnt know what it mean

dont worry , it was just lemon water in my glass

thanks richard for the translation , but I didnt know that you could speak swedish
now I got 2 different translations for "DEI GRATIA"

by the grace of god
and
as a gift

any more suggestions ??

Spuddy · « **Reply #44 on:** August 16, 2009, 12:48:38 AM »

It would be helpful for me to know how to build an effective backstop for steel and lead balls, as well as for golf balls. Now I try to shoot into a berm of earth but around here we have to contend with rocks. What are your thoughts for the best backstop material?

thelionspaw · « **Reply #45 on:** August 16, 2009, 01:43:35 AM »

Dan,
Since it's Sunday, I'll add a little more Latin to the forum. "ME FECIT" translates to mean, "Made Me".

On my 15th c. cannon, I followed the tradition by engraving, "FECERUNT"; translated as, "CAUSED THIS TO BE MADE". This was standard procedure in the 18th c..

As for your question regarding, "IN VINO VERITAS", I allowed time for someone else to translated but here goes; "IN WINE THERE IS TRUTH".

I was stuffed with Latin in high school and my wife had 4 years of it too. My father had Latin and classic Greek. Now modern English speakers, slaughter their own language and they have spell check.

English useage do be more worser now. Axe anyone. It am more betterer before. English probably isn't the oh-ne-ist language. I seen others what am worserer and youse has too.

I gave myself a headache with that one.

Richard the unfrocked altar boy.

dan610324 · « **Reply #46 on:** August 16, 2009, 01:58:09 AM »

yes I knew the "me fecit" , but why do they place the name after me fecit .
thats not a common sentence structure of today
is it because of age or the structure of the latin language ??

thelionspaw · « **Reply #47 on:** August 16, 2009, 02:41:55 AM »

Latin is loaded with irregular conjugation of verbs. I would imagine that, ME FECIT JOHN DOE was a matter of personal choice because a Pattison Pattern 3 pdr of 1775 is stamped, "I. & P. VERBRUGGEN FECERUNT"; effectively placing the makers' name before the Latin. I could be incorrect but I cannot check with the local priest for nuance, because he isn't available since his arrest and the local Latin teacher just passed away, giving new meaning to Latin being a dead language.

rc

Double D · « **Reply #48 on:** August 16, 2009, 04:15:46 AM »

Cannons, bouncing balls and backstops.

Cannon balls are low velocity projectiles and things that stop high velocity pojrctile tend rebound slow projectiles back at you. Dirt banks are good, but rocks complicate things....Golf balls complicate thing they have less mass than the same diameter lead and steel balls.

I have used old rubber conveyor belt for back stop for an indoor range. The back stop was made of 5 foot strips hung from the ceiling and and about a foot of the floor. This hung about a foot in front of stacks of dirt filled tires. This conveyor bel curtin stopped .22horts, and stand velocity .22 longs. .22 Long rifle were sometime stopped some time not. .38 wad cutters were stopped, but high velocty was not. 45 ACP hardball cast was stopped, Most JHP went right through.

BoomLover · « **Reply #49 on:** August 16, 2009, 05:08:41 AM »

I tell ya, I love this board! Everyone has a contribution, and I learn something every day! Please don't look at my carrying on as a rebuke, I really like to read what you guys come up with, it is interesting and many times comical. And I do belive that the topic of "bouncing balls" should be fully explored, and the fact that it lends itself to a bit of humor is really quite alright, belive me! I also like that fact that no one really gets upset or miffed at anyone, just some verbal banter of a goodnatured manner! Double D with his experiences with target backgrounds is a valuable source, and I know there are many others! Thanks for all the raising of the learning curve with the Latin, ect., instruction! BoomLover

subdjoe · « **Reply #50 on:** August 16, 2009, 05:12:32 AM »

Quote from: RocklockI on August 15, 2009, 01:42:00 PM

good one dan , it's late over there ....how bout , "in vino veritas".

"My glass is empty and I'm broke. Put the next one on my tab."

Cannoneer · « **Reply #51 on:** August 16, 2009, 05:20:26 AM »

After the battle between the USS Monitor & the CSS Virginia there was a flurry of testing, and experimentation conducted on projectile designs, and their effectiveness in penetrating armor plate. If you read some of the literature on this testing, you'll find that even though the personnel performing the tests were taking precautions against being hit by fragments and/or rebounding rounds, some serious accidents still occured.

subdjoe · « **Reply #52 on:** August 16, 2009, 05:24:59 AM »

Quote from: Spuddy on August 16, 2009, 12:48:38 AM

It would be helpful for me to know how to build an effective backstop for steel and lead balls, as well as for golf balls. Now I try to shoot into a berm of earth but around here we have to contend with rocks. What are your thoughts for the best backstop material?

How about tires? Stack them up and fill with dirt. A few rows of them should stop most things in that size.

Stagger them:

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RocklockI · « **Reply #53 on:** August 16, 2009, 06:24:20 AM »

rubber tires ?

wouldnt they just come back as 'wildly bounincing balls' ?

a good deep burm is all i can really come up with , and nothing portable

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maybe angled steel plates ?

as asmahat and eminem have found out .......wildly bouning balls are a hazard to your health .

i still like his candies though .

joke..... Q.C. .....an M&Ms quality control inspector was called to the office as almost half the last batch was rejected .

he was asked 'why ?' the inspector said 'well an awful lot of them where printed with a W ......'

at 550 yds nothing comes back .....but you never see them agian either ......

i need to figure out something to stop steel balls . as at nealy 2 bucks per it would be nice to recover my bouncing balls .....some anyway .....

to date none have been recovered .

eta to lose lots of stupid space .....

KABAR2 · « **Reply #54 on:** August 16, 2009, 06:39:45 AM »

Quote from: RocklockI on August 16, 2009, 06:24:20 AM

i need to figure out something to stop steel balls . as at nealy 2 bucks per it would be nice to recover my bouncing balls .....some anyway .....

to date none have been recovered .

How about rail road ties faced with sand bags 4 to 5 deep ......... in your case install a very large electromagnet behind target balls should be
attracted to magnet....... Joking about the electromagnet...... but the rest should work.

RocklockI · « **Reply #55 on:** August 16, 2009, 07:00:18 AM »

yes that would proly work .....

belt fed frog · « **Reply #56 on:** August 16, 2009, 07:41:24 AM »

my 100 yard rifle backstop in my yard is made of 18 wheeler tires steel belted and some aircraft tires in it too it surface stops any pistol round and shot gun shot rebounds ask me how i know you have to be 35 Yrd back or you keep getting stung

it took 400 tires and 10) 14 yrd loads of dirt to construct but it will stop a 50 BMG in the first tire and it is 4 tires deep stagger stacked but the problem i have is it is slowly sinking into the ground

, i dont think i will try a cannon ball on it cause it probly will come back

but at least it doesnt wash down in the rains

thelionspaw · « **Reply #57 on:** August 16, 2009, 08:17:32 AM »

How about an athletic support?

rc MD

RocklockI · « **Reply #58 on:** August 16, 2009, 08:45:28 AM »

industrial gage , heavy duty ...........

cannon

Cat Whisperer · « **Reply #59 on:** August 16, 2009, 09:29:54 AM »

Bouncing PVC pipe (filled with concrete).

I would not believe this unless I saw it.

I was firing the 4.5" at LOW angle (about 15 degrees elevation), aimed to hit the trees on the 100 meter berm.

Perfect hit on a 4" diameter tree about 20' high. It FLEXED and tossed the round to the left hitting a 3" tree, WHICH FLEXED and tossed it back over to a 10" pine - THUNK.

I was right out of the cartoons.

It happened. I saw it. I don't expect ANYONE else to believe it.