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5.56 vs .223
« on: August 14, 2009, 10:44:07 PM »
What is the concensus on shooting 5.56 ammo in TC .223 barrels?
I contacted TC and they said "not recommended."

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Re: 5.56 vs .223
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2009, 10:05:13 PM »
I contacted TC and they said "not recommended."

Sounds like that's your answer right there.  5.56 is loaded to higher pressures than .223, which will result in higher backthrust.  While that may not be an issue for the Encore since it can handle things like the .300 Winchester Magnum and the .375 H&H Magnum, I definitely wouldn't try it with the Contender.

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Re: 5.56 vs .223
« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2009, 05:07:16 AM »
No it is not a good idea to shoot 5.56mm Ammo in a Commercial .223 Remington Chamber. As has been stated the 5.56mm Ammo is loaded to higher chamber pressures than Commercial .223 Remington Ammo. Military Rifles have a longer chamber throat to bleed off some of the pressure as this ammo is loaded to higher pressures to ensure cycling of semi auto rifles.

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Re: 5.56 vs .223
« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2009, 05:24:12 AM »
No it is not a good idea to shoot 5.56mm Ammo in a Commercial .223 Remington Chamber. As has been stated the 5.56mm Ammo is loaded to higher chamber pressures than Commercial .223 Remington Ammo.
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Now I don't know about shooting one in the other causing a problem. But what I can tell you in the above thate does not make sense is," Military Rifles have a longer chamber throat to bleed off some of the pressure as this ammo is loaded to higher pressures to ensure cycling of semi auto rifles". The reason I say this is that, 1 having a longer throat will lower pressures, and 2 pressures at the gas port will be much more effected by the burning rate of the powder than the initial chamber peak pressure which is reached when the bullet is in the very beguinning of the barrel.
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Re: 5.56 vs .223
« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2009, 02:40:25 PM »
No it is not a good idea to shoot 5.56mm Ammo in a Commercial .223 Remington Chamber. As has been stated the 5.56mm Ammo is loaded to higher chamber pressures than Commercial .223 Remington Ammo.
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Now I don't know about shooting one in the other causing a problem. But what I can tell you in the above thate does not make sense is," Military Rifles have a longer chamber throat to bleed off some of the pressure as this ammo is loaded to higher pressures to ensure cycling of semi auto rifles". The reason I say this is that, 1 having a longer throat will lower pressures, and 2 pressures at the gas port will be much more effected by the burning rate of the powder than the initial chamber peak pressure which is reached when the bullet is in the very beguinning of the barrel.

5.56x45mm NATO chambers do, indeed, have a longer throat than commercial .223 Remington chambers.  The military spec. ammo is loaded to higher pressures to meet a particular velocity specification.  The higher pressures resulting from a commercial spec. chamber can cause extraction and other cycling problems.

There is also a chamber known as the .223 Wylde, which is effectively a 5.56x45mm NATO Match chamber.  It has a shorter throat than the NATO chamber, which helps accuracy, but a longer throat than the .223 Remington chamber to help keep pressure from building too quickly.  The Wylde chamber was designed to get better accuracy from NATO spec. ammo while still keeping pressures relatively safe.

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Re: 5.56 vs .223
« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2009, 08:06:37 AM »
the 556 usually has 62gr or larger FMJs  and rifles have longer throats to handle the longer bullets ,  my contender chamber has a shorter throat than most of my other 223 rifles so I  load all my 223 to fit it so I can use the ammo in anything I have.

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Re: 5.56 vs .223
« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2009, 03:20:05 PM »
No it is not a good idea to shoot 5.56mm Ammo in a Commercial .223 Remington Chamber. As has been stated the 5.56mm Ammo is loaded to higher chamber pressures than Commercial .223 Remington Ammo.
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Now I don't know about shooting one in the other causing a problem. But what I can tell you in the above thate does not make sense is," Military Rifles have a longer chamber throat to bleed off some of the pressure as this ammo is loaded to higher pressures to ensure cycling of semi auto rifles". The reason I say this is that, 1 having a longer throat will lower pressures, and 2 pressures at the gas port will be much more effected by the burning rate of the powder than the initial chamber peak pressure which is reached when the bullet is in the very beguinning of the barrel.

If you do some reading on the subject that is what you will find. One such source is the Ammo Oracle.

It doesn't make sence to me either.

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Re: 5.56 vs .223
« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2009, 07:12:55 PM »
I would go with the factory, and hold off on shooting 5.56 ammo in the Contender.
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