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WOODSTOCK 40 YEARS AGO
« on: August 15, 2009, 03:08:22 AM »
WOODSTOCK WAS 40 YEARS AGO TODAY. HALF A MILLION PEOPLE, POOR CONDITIONS AND TOTALLY PEACEFUL. DO YOU THINK THAT SPIRIT OF LOVE WITH THE SAME CONDITIONS COULD BE DUPLICATED IN THESE TIME? FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH CAPS- I TRIED TO MAKE THE PRINT LARGER- BUT DON'T KNOW HOW USING THE INFO ABOVE- PEACE BROTHER
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Re: WOODSTOCK 40 YEARS AGO
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2009, 03:36:16 AM »
To bad the whole dam bunch didn't O  D.
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Re: WOODSTOCK 40 YEARS AGO
« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2009, 03:43:15 AM »
Wish they would have O D'd....lot of them would up running the country it seems. 

Bunch of doped up lazy people who are now either in Congress of voting for the people in Congress.
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Re: WOODSTOCK 40 YEARS AGO
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2009, 03:59:25 AM »
Most of that crowd is probably closer to 70 than 60. Probably fadeing "from the sceen" by now. The ones running things now are all about greed and self.
I was sitting in my dorm room when I heard "Purple Haze" the first time. I have been a fan of screaming guitars ever sence. eddie
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Re: WOODSTOCK 40 YEARS AGO
« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2009, 04:06:43 AM »
I'm glad a good portion of all involved are now dead. THe world is a better place without them. Kinda makes me smile.  :)
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Re: WOODSTOCK 40 YEARS AGO
« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2009, 04:25:36 AM »
Most of the folks who scream about Woodstock don't have a clue about what happened or what it was about.
Most of those who scream would have attended a Willie Nelson 4th of July concert and been proud too be a part of it. So much for drugs being a part of the arguement.
Not everyone who went too Woodstock did drugs, not all who go too Willies concerts do drugs.
I did MJ in those days and was in the majority but felt no superiority over those who chose not too.
I don't drink much today or do drugs and don't feel superior too those who do.
Doing booze too excess seems to be the right of passage for the young and some hang onto that culture for years and tout it as being superior and the good 'ol boy right.
Folks, you boys need too get things in perspective.
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Re: WOODSTOCK 40 YEARS AGO
« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2009, 04:27:15 AM »
From the looks of party dominance, the majority of those that didn't die young probably "grew up" and voted
Republican since then. eddie
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Re: WOODSTOCK 40 YEARS AGO
« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2009, 05:22:10 AM »
 first i get nothing out of pot ,,so i don t use it..but some family an friends do,an have for years..
 the only change ive seen in them is possibly a smart a-- atitude ,,but mostly just laid back..
 what i have seen is a man beat his wife up drinking hard licker or beer....never seen a man on pot do that..
 my choice if i still drank would be a good burbon or rum.. umm..but it didn t make me mean like it does some...
 my granpaw before he got saved,,, use to take his dirt farmer boys to  york in s. c....
 they be drinking an people hated to see them coming...they say you just stayed outa thier way,,cause you was not gonna be able to get along withum...good people that worked so hard they needed a release...after granpaw found god... then one by one they all did thier shouting in church..
 same type outlet ,,only difference is what it produced in the man..i said men not people,,
as the sisters an grandma could do nothing to stop them ..an prayer was the only option left toum..it taught them to hate the stuff...
  about the same thing as woodstock i guess... people trying to break free an live...
  trying it that way usually isn t done with moderation an usually takes folks down..
 to the pot smoker thats these drugs i don t understand..to drinkers ,,theres a lot on this forum that knows the final results...
 some drink all thier life occasionally..many are not capable of that...to them its the devil s
 beacon in the night.. calling them to a hell on earth..jmo slim
 
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Re: WOODSTOCK 40 YEARS AGO
« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2009, 05:41:01 AM »
THE POINT I WAS TRYING TO MAKE WAS- ALL THOSE KIDS- POOR CONDITIONS AND NO VIOLENCE. TODAY THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN FIGHTS AND SHOOTINGS.  WHAT HAPPENED ?
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Re: WOODSTOCK 40 YEARS AGO
« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2009, 05:43:17 AM »
Quote from: williamlayton on August 15, 2009, 04:25:36 AM
Most of the folks who scream about Woodstock don't have a clue about what happened or what it was about.
Most of those who scream would have attended a Willie Nelson 4th of July concert and been proud too be a part of it. So much for drugs being a part of the arguement.
Not everyone who went too Woodstock did drugs, not all who go too Willies concerts do drugs.
I did MJ in those days and was in the majority but felt no superiority over those who chose not too.
I don't drink much today or do drugs and don't feel superior too those who do.
Doing booze too excess seems to be the right of passage for the young and some hang onto that culture for years and tout it as being superior and the good 'ol boy right.
Folks, you boys need too get things in perspective.
Blessings


WELL SAID WILLIAM. SOME ONLY HAVE [ G D HIPPIES] MENTALITY.
BY THE WAY- I PRAY ALL GOES WELL WITH YOUR CONDITION.
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Re: WOODSTOCK 40 YEARS AGO
« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2009, 05:49:33 AM »
It's all long behind me now but if many I know includeing self, hadn't left the alcohol crowd and joined the hippie crowd they (we) probably would have been killed or wound up in prison. eddie
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Re: WOODSTOCK 40 YEARS AGO
« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2009, 05:49:44 AM »
Arlo Guthrie supported Ron Paul in 2008.

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Guthrie endorsed Texas Congressman Ron Paul for the 2008 Republican Party nomination. He said, "I love this guy. Dr. Paul is the only candidate I know of who would have signed the Constitution of the United States had he been there. I'm with him, because he seems to be the only candidate who actually believes it has as much relevance today as it did a couple of hundred years ago. I look forward to the day when we can work out the differences we have with the same revolutionary vision and enthusiasm that is our American legacy." [3] He told the New York Times Magazine that he is a Republican because, "We had enough good Democrats. We needed a few more good Republicans. We needed a loyal opposition."[4]


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Re: WOODSTOCK 40 YEARS AGO
« Reply #12 on: August 15, 2009, 07:17:42 AM »
I think it stayed non-violent mostly for two reasons.  One, the kids who went there were not protesting anything or going to further any cause, they just wanted to see/hear a free concert on a grand scale.  Two, the authorities were wise enough to see they weren't a threat to anyone else and wisely decided to leave them alone rather than intercede and "try to bring order" like they would today.

As for feeling sorry for "those poor kids", I was in RVN 40 years ago today and I don't remember the conditions being all that great where I was - though there seemed to be enough violence to go around!

Regardless of your opinions on politics, drugs, free love, and rock 'n roll it truly was a historical event and will most likely never be duplicated.  Wish I would have been there - just so I could say I'd been there!!
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Re: WOODSTOCK 40 YEARS AGO
« Reply #13 on: August 15, 2009, 07:25:28 AM »
Spruce +1

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Re: WOODSTOCK 40 YEARS AGO
« Reply #14 on: August 15, 2009, 07:36:08 AM »
Quote from: spruce on August 15, 2009, 07:17:42 AM
I think it stayed non-violent mostly for two reasons.  One, the kids who went there were not protesting anything or going to further any cause, they just wanted to see/hear a free concert on a grand scale.  Two, the authorities were wise enough to see they weren't a threat to anyone else and wisely decided to leave them alone rather than intercede and "try to bring order" like they would today.

As for feeling sorry for "those poor kids", I was in RVN 40 years ago today and I don't remember the conditions being all that great where I was - though there seemed to be enough violence to go around!

Regardless of your opinions on politics, drugs, free love, and rock 'n roll it truly was a historical event and will most likely never be duplicated.  Wish I would have been there - just so I could say I'd been there!!

I STILL FEEL THAT IF THE SAME HAPPENED TODAY- THERE WOULD BE AT LEAST ON SHOOTING.
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Re: WOODSTOCK 40 YEARS AGO
« Reply #15 on: August 15, 2009, 07:37:33 AM »
I was too busy with my new Air Force career when Woodstock happened, and on the other side of the country.  But when Altamont happened I was there.

Spent three days having a good time.  Lots of wine, and pot.  But since I don't do pot, and it never did anything for me I just drank the wine.  Had a little Hippy chick that I had met from Sausolito attend with me.

When that guy named Hunter got killed by the Hell's Angels on stage, all my friends went into panic thinking it was me.  They only announced his last name.  That kind of bummed us out and changed the tone of the gathering.


Funny thing, after the concert I got fast orders to leave for Alaska.  Was not able to contact or see my friend the little Hippy Chick.  We lost contact with one another, and never dreamed we would ever see one another again.  We both went on with our lives and married and raised a family.  We both became very conservative in our views as well.  Then about five years ago a woman I saw nearly every day, and I realized we were long lost friends.  My little Hippy Chick friend lives about one mile from me, and I know her husband well.  And she knows my wife also.  We are now good friends  and see each other several times a week.

As for the young people at the time of Woodstock, we did not consider ourselves as liberals or conservatives.  We were just young people looking for a different way of doing things, and trying a little bit of everything.  They all went their separate ways after the concerts.  Some became ultra liberals, some ultra conservatives.  Most just became ordinary, everyday, middle of the road people.
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Re: WOODSTOCK 40 YEARS AGO
« Reply #16 on: August 15, 2009, 07:58:42 AM »
Went to Woodstock with my girlfriend and we met this cute chick in an orange crochet outfit!
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Re: WOODSTOCK 40 YEARS AGO
« Reply #17 on: August 15, 2009, 08:18:38 AM »
Quote from: crustaceous on August 15, 2009, 07:58:42 AM
Went to Woodstock with my girlfriend and we met this cute chick in an orange crochet outfit!


The picture really captures what we are dealing with today, thanks for the reminder!  :-[
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« Reply #18 on: August 15, 2009, 08:46:14 AM »
Here's a little history and some pictures in case anyone is interested:

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« Reply #19 on: August 15, 2009, 09:50:48 AM »

crustaceous is that you with the PETA poster? I wonder what makes me think it is.                           Beerbelly
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« Reply #20 on: August 15, 2009, 10:18:14 AM »
He said who it was didn't he?  ;D
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« Reply #21 on: August 15, 2009, 12:04:42 PM »
He sure ain't the one in the crochet dress.
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« Reply #22 on: August 15, 2009, 12:25:32 PM »
LOL I bet he ended up with the one with the natural colored woolen out fit on.
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« Reply #23 on: August 15, 2009, 04:44:11 PM »
  Yes,Woodstock was a historical event and if it wasn't we wouldn't be making such a big deal out of the 40th anniversary of it's occurrence. Why there wasn't more violence is anybody's guess;maybe people cared more about each other back then in spite of the drugs instead of today's straight-arrow criminals that bilk good citizens out of 40 billion dollars.And you guys that wish 250,000 of the participants all o'd' or dead now have a,and I mean this,seriously uneducated,redneck view of what went on at Woodstock. Wish I could have been there and seen those acts. Kix
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« Reply #24 on: August 15, 2009, 05:01:17 PM »
I would have went but i was busy on a destroyer at the time and uncle couldn't spare me at the moment. Besides them hippy chicks didn't like dress blues anyway.
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« Reply #25 on: August 15, 2009, 05:19:13 PM »
It wasn't all peaceful!
Like when they tore down the fence to get in free.
There also were a few fights but not many.
People just wanted to be happy together.
Wish we could be that carefree today.

Yes some of them are now running things just as the rock & rollers of the 50s did before them.
No real difference!

I do think that most really don't understand what it was all about.
I'm not sure they even knew, or cared.

There was some great music and a lot of beautiful sights.

I was all set to go with a friend when MOM & POP said no way!
Still wish I had gone!
I guess that is why I still go back to that type of music when ever I want to remember things from back then.

Different folks in a different time with different ideas.
That's all it was, plane and simple!!!

I did "TUNE IN" but I didn't "TURN ON or DROP OUT".
Guess I wasn't old enought at the time.
I didn't have long hair either.
Now I wish I had some. :D

Man, things were so different back then.



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THE POINT I WAS TRYING TO MAKE WAS- ALL THOSE KIDS- POOR CONDITIONS AND NO VIOLENCE. TODAY THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN FIGHTS AND SHOOTINGS.  WHAT HAPPENED ?

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« Reply #27 on: August 16, 2009, 12:09:09 AM »
I will tell you a story.
1966. I was living in L.A.
Got a few drinks one Friday, a $50 round trip  flight too S.F.
Got off the plane and caught a cab. Said I, take me to Haig & Asbury.
Got out of the cab.
Stood on the curb and looked around.
A dude sitting on the door step of an apartment doing a doobie looked up and smiled. Want a hit? he asked.
It was a good weekend.
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« Reply #28 on: August 16, 2009, 12:16:21 AM »
William,

Like Groovy and Far-Out Man! :D

Peace ;)


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« Reply #29 on: August 16, 2009, 03:42:35 AM »
We lost and gained many things during those times.  In the time 1980s-1990s I wrote a good bit under another name more as therapy than anything else.  My wife and I had different experiences, and that can take time to reconcile.  Learning to blend two views of reality and admit the validity of both has kept us together for almost 30 years.  The refrain from some of the best published and hardest to write I ever did:

"She rembers Woodstock, I remember Vietnam."

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