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Offline Goony

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High Standard
« on: August 19, 2009, 04:46:29 PM »
I was wondering if there is any consensus (generally speaking) on which flavor of the Hi-Standard automatic pistols is more desirable, the older slant grip models (up through the 104 series) or the later military configred grip versions (106 series onward).  I suppose that question is a twofold one in that it may be asked from either a collector'sor a shooter's standpoint.  I recognize that question also ignores the earliest pistols (pre-101 series) that some may prefer over any of the more modern ones.

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Re: High Standard
« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2009, 05:10:42 PM »
Well Pardner I don't know squat about any of the numbers you are mentioning but i have a 70's model high standard sport king that came with a 41/2 inch barrel. At a gun show in Pasadena a couple of weeks ago i found a 6 and 1/2 inch barrel for it. and Thats big news for me but the really big news is that i also found out that there is a company there that is building high standards right here in the Republic of Texas

http://highstandard.com

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Re: High Standard
« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2009, 05:57:05 PM »
I had an older Supermatic Trophy used in Bullseye competition. I now have a Model GE and enjoy it very much for casual plinking and perhaps squirrel hunting this year. So for me, at this time, the Model GE is most desirable.

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Re: High Standard
« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2009, 03:32:57 PM »
I have a Victor that I haven't fired in YEARS!!!!!  I also won't part with it!!!!!  I think it's a 5 1/2" BBL....now I hafta dig'er out and shoot'er!!!
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Re: High Standard
« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2009, 04:06:57 PM »
Yup, I dug mine out last week and enjoyed shooting it so much. The accuracy and low recoil was very nice.

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Re: High Standard
« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2009, 05:55:07 PM »
I MUCH prefer the original slanted grip guns. That angle just happens to be near perfect for the human hand to hold and shoot. The later military style grip was made just to please folks who shot the 1911 in competition so their .22LR gun could feel the same in hand. To me that grip is an abomination same as the 1911 is. I HATE THEM.


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Re: High Standard
« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2009, 06:10:42 PM »
Yes, my model GE has the slanted grip, very comfortable.

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Re: High Standard
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2009, 12:52:08 AM »
..........................but the really big news is that i also found out that there is a company there that is building high standards right here in the Republic of Texas

http://highstandard.com

If you have any interest!

Do youself a favor and don't get too excited.  I had a Texas Victor and it was a piece of junk.  After two trips back to the factory and one to an old HS mechanic, it wouldn't run reliably.

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Re: High Standard
« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2009, 12:59:09 AM »
I was wondering if there is any consensus (generally speaking) on which flavor of the Hi-Standard automatic pistols is more desirable, the older slant grip models (up through the 104 series) or the later military configred grip versions (106 series onward). 

My opinion and experience is
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Re: High Standard
« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2009, 05:18:58 AM »
I cant argue THE FACT due to not having ever even seen one from the Texas builder! I do regret that there is some problem with those only because I enjoy my old high standard so much and the fact that it is a remarkable little handgun. I hate to see the name besmurched.  Not the State Origin!
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Re: High Standard
« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2009, 06:34:14 AM »
I cant argue THE FACT due to not having ever even seen one from the Texas builder! I do regret that there is some problem with those only because I enjoy my old high standard so much and the fact that it is a remarkable little handgun. I hate to see the name besmurched.  Not the State Origin!

I guess that is my reasoning why I did not want Browning to reintroduce the T-Bolt, or the XXII from Weatherby which ended up a bolt action or why I have no interest in a new Savage 99

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Re: High Standard
« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2009, 01:01:35 PM »
if you want to get a high standard get one with a push button barrel take down thes are  made better than the ones with the screw securing the barrel to the frame . the best are the ones made in hamden then next are the  hartford . i know quit a few people who bought the mitchell and texas  HS guns ! STAY AWAY FROM THEM NOTHING BUT TROUBLE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: High Standard
« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2009, 01:14:43 PM »
This one has served me well for around 50 years, and it served my Grandfather well before that until he gave it to me.    Was Gramps "go to" for popping sage hens and sharptails for the cook pot.   It's about 60-61 years old now but it's still nearly as good as new.  Another family heirloom with nobody to leave it to. 
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Re: High Standard
« Reply #13 on: October 13, 2009, 02:16:43 PM »
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Re: High Standard
« Reply #14 on: October 13, 2009, 02:31:42 PM »
  I won a pile of small bore pistol matches with my "Victor", that i bought new in the 70's.  Over the years, i've also put a truck load of small game on my table with it too.

  I still have it, and doubt i'll ever part with it.

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Re: High Standard
« Reply #15 on: October 29, 2009, 03:48:26 AM »
First I must say I am not a Texan but I will go to the defense of out Texan shooters.  The Mitchell High Standard, made in Texas is/was not a great copy of the High Standard.  The other Texas Co is High Standard and there rendition is no copy, it is the real thing.  May not have quite as good a finish on it but they shoot as good as the eastern made guns and all parts will work on the older guns.  They own the High Standard name.  Brian.

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Re: High Standard
« Reply #16 on: October 29, 2009, 02:19:31 PM »
but they shoot as good as the eastern made guns .

Based on what I see at the range (indoor league) I disagree. Especially when you compare the reliability of the eastern made guns vs the texan made junk

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Re: High Standard
« Reply #17 on: October 29, 2009, 04:29:14 PM »
Could not resist the chance to post a pic of my 37 year old High Standard Sport King, and the new longer barrel I bought at the Gun show in Pasadena a few weeks ago! 



Even if you think they are junk Hairtrigger, Thats Texan junk with a capital T, Pardner!  ;)
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Re: High Standard
« Reply #18 on: October 29, 2009, 05:04:15 PM »
That is a short barrel.

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Re: High Standard
« Reply #19 on: October 29, 2009, 05:15:04 PM »
The new one is on the pistol and is 6 and 3/4 inches. The original is 4 and 1/2
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Re: High Standard
« Reply #20 on: October 29, 2009, 05:48:09 PM »
The short barrel look handy, any pics with the short barrel attached?

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Re: High Standard
« Reply #21 on: November 20, 2009, 10:36:15 PM »


I love my Victor, owned it since the mid 70's. Unlike Greybeard, I like the 1911's also and shoot both. I also own a Ruger and just can't get use to the grip angle on it, but keep it around for the grandkids to shoot when they come to visit



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Re: High Standard
« Reply #22 on: December 09, 2009, 08:35:15 AM »
Hello I have 13 different High Standards and my favorite is the model 102. It is a slant grip model with a 10'' barrel and barrel weights refered to as the Buck Rogers model by some. It is one of the Hamden made guns with the walnut thumb rest grips. It always draws a crowd when I bring it out at the shooting matches. It is one of my favorite guns of all time and gives me a warm fuzzy everytime that I handel it.

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Re: High Standard
« Reply #23 on: December 09, 2009, 02:16:47 PM »
My second hand gun was a High Standard Sport King, 4-1/2" barrel. I paid like $119 for it (early 70's), and I immediately bought the factory thumb rest &checkered grips for it for $7.50.
Best trigger I've ever experienced on a factory gun, save the the Supermatics and Victors. I still own it, and I'm taking it to the range later this week!


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Re: High Standard
« Reply #24 on: December 09, 2009, 02:23:19 PM »
My second hand gun was a High Standard Sport King, 4-1/2" barrel. I paid like $119 for it, and I immediately bought the factory thumb rest &checkered grips for it for $7.50.
Best trigger I've ever experienced on a factory gun, save the the Supermatics and Victors. I still own it, and I'm taking it to the range later this week!



Have any idea when you got it? I cant for the life of me remember what I paid for mine, but it was about 37 years ago. $119.00 dollars seems high for me since i was in college then, and on subsistance wages, so maybe yours aint as old as mine.
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« Reply #25 on: December 09, 2009, 02:28:57 PM »
Prolly 1974 or '75.  I think the $119 included sales tax, iffin that helps.
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Re: High Standard
« Reply #26 on: December 09, 2009, 02:31:15 PM »
Thinking back, It was 1976, cause the next year ('77) I got a new .38spl Colt Diamondback and it was $199 before tax.
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Re: High Standard
« Reply #27 on: December 09, 2009, 03:02:18 PM »
72 was when I think I bought mine. No later than 73. Just a thought. I remember selling blood to buy beer in those days so I was on limited resources, But I have never used good judgement when purchasing firearms! Its just a flaw i guess  ???  I do love my lil HS though, and it still has a factory trigger that is crisp! Some of that may be the wide trigger, it feels better than most pistols.
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Re: High Standard
« Reply #28 on: December 11, 2009, 10:50:41 AM »
There were mentioned the different methods of retaining the barrel, My brouther's sport king has a 6" lever release instead of push button or set screw.

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Re: High Standard
« Reply #29 on: December 11, 2009, 11:26:43 AM »
Gotta add my pics!