Much of the time the numbers of permits is not just a reflection of deer numbers, but success rates of hunters......and unless there is access to hunt where the deer are at, number of permits issued means squat. Prime example is the Eradication Zone. With unlimited permits for both buck and does, and three months of gun season, there are still more deer per square mile in most of it than is desired, because of limited access. Public land is where the deer get hammered and need fewer antlerless permits. Private land owners already dictate the number of deer taken on their land.