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Did I pass on a real bargan or find?
« on: August 20, 2009, 06:53:46 AM »
Was at the gun show in Oklahoma city Sunday and a vender had a new contender never shot 30 Herrett all engraved inc. barrel in a oak presentation case with a price tag of 575.00 also had 2 gold or brass plated bullets mounted in case. So did I miss the buy of a lifetime or was that what it was worth?
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Re: Did I pass on a real bargan or find?
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2009, 10:05:07 AM »
If you are a TC Collector then yup passed up a real find. If you aren't and didn't wanna shoot it then I guess not tho you might have found a collector to make a profit on from it. If guns could still be sold on flea bay a huge profit likely could have been made.

They were a limited edition a few years back and would be a really nice addition to any TC Collections if one is a collector of such things. It would be a nice gun to shoot as well but almost a shame to shoot such a collector's item.


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Re: Did I pass on a real bargain or find?
« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2009, 02:43:20 PM »
sounds like you passed on a herrette competitive pistol. Fox ridge sole these some years ago. they where listed for quite some time and then they started to offer a second barrel with the set.  I am not sure it was that gret of a deal.

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Re: Did I pass on a real bargan or find?
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2009, 02:27:25 PM »
GB and rickyp are right on the money. To me, things like that have minimal value because I am a shooter, not a collector. To others, it may round out a collection and be something they've sought after for some time.

But GB, as to "If guns could still be sold on flea bay...": Technically, guns were never allowed on that site (some slipped through early on), but plenty of barrels and accessories were sold there. That's why there was such as uproar when they changed their policy to, as they so elequontly stated, "adhere to this nation's gun control policies."  E-bay is run by a bunch of left-wing, PETA-type morons with an agenda -- and there's NO doubt about that.

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Re: Did I pass on a real bargan or find?
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2009, 05:05:24 PM »
Hmm, I don't now and never have done flea bay but I sure thought folks used to buy and sell guns here long ago. As I said I have no first hand experience with it so might be wrong but that's sure what I thought folks used to report.


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Re: Did I pass on a real bargan or find?
« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2009, 07:19:46 PM »
I bought several muzzle loaders on flea bay over the years.  I don't think you can any more.  And lots of Contender barrels. 
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Re: Did I pass on a real bargan or find?
« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2009, 04:05:53 AM »
Nothing like barrels, magazines, etc. is allowed there anymore. And for while, they did allow some BP products and air rifles -- non-FFL-type items -- through but snuffed that out as well.

It used to have pages upon pages of TC factory and custom barrels, though - and on occasion, there were some good deals to be had.

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Re: Did I pass on a real bargan or find?
« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2009, 07:02:11 AM »
Getting off topic but Ebay did allow sales of firearms up to the year 1999 or 2000. I remember the topic coming up when thye banned complete firearm sales around 1999 and just allowed parts at that point. That was around the same time that Gunbroker started using the same software format as Ebay and picking up the slack.

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Re: Did I pass on a real bargan or find?
« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2009, 10:59:19 AM »
As of last week the guys were still selling muzzleloader barrels stocks and parts on Ebay but what the fellow were doing was taking the gun apart and selling piece by piece and in the ad they would tell ebay this is not a gun but a gun part and will not fire but the problem there is you would have to get all parts other wise you might have to start looking. I saw a number of stocks with hammer and action but no barrel with it. Yes we have got off the subject. I did see the same gun at Tulsa this weekend and price was up 25.00.
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Re: Did I pass on a real bargan or find?
« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2009, 03:33:52 AM »
DEACONLLB
 You seem to enjoy the TC line to say the Least  ;D
now How I would have looked at the Gun at Post
Frame = 200 to 250
30 Herrett  I don't see length ?
But say its 10" = $150 to $175 possibly 200 If it was/is a sweet /or collector
so at the high end you have $ 400.oo to $450.oo
was the case worth anything
That's they way I would have weighed it out
More than Likely I am low but when looking I'm looking for Deals
I don't know how much I would have raised the numbers for the
added engraving and such
I am like the others in I shoot them not wall Hang
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Was at the gun show in Oklahoma city Sunday and a vender had a new contender never shot 30 Herrett all engraved inc. barrel in a oak presentation case with a price tag of 575.00 also had 2 gold or brass plated bullets mounted in case. So did I miss the buy of a lifetime or was that what it was worth?
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Re: Did I pass on a real bargan or find?
« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2009, 06:14:11 AM »
TC are habbit forming to say the least but they are not all that I own I also am a shooter and do not display guns. and as you say I look for deals Real deals and have passed on a lot of good deals because I had no use for them.
The TC was a nice gun but was not a shooter as first shot and value goes way down but was just wondering if it was a good find but as I say I had no use for it that is why it will more than likely be at the next gun show.
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Re: Did I pass on a real bargan or find?
« Reply #11 on: August 26, 2009, 02:39:16 PM »
Yes, firearms did get sold on e-bay early on, but it was still against their policy and was not "allowed."

They killed lots of auctions when they found them, but they did not have the software to keep up with the ever-growing site; hence, firearms did slip through the cracks.

When they underwent a major overhaul about 10 years ago, they re-stated their position on firearms and also put in place safeguards to keep them from being sold. Lots of auctions that fell within their guidelines still got nixed because the geniuses there don't have a clue and don't care, either.

I was a bidder on a barrel auction which got killed by e-bay. The text clearly stated "barrel only", yet one photo showed it with just a small part of the frame showing. You guessed it; they killed the auction.

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Re: Did I pass on a real bargan or find?
« Reply #12 on: August 29, 2009, 12:21:49 PM »
     At one time, Fox Ridge Outfitters sold a commemorative pistol in 30 herrett. It was engraved with the image of Steve Herrett. If you passed on that, well, you didn't do anything new.  I saw them when they came out and that is about the price tag they had new.
     The Herret Commemorative Pistol was equipped with Herret grips, in 30 Herrett and engraved. It would be nice for someone who was really fond of this caliber and thought highly of it. A little before my time though.
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Re: Did I pass on a real bargan or find?
« Reply #13 on: August 30, 2009, 09:42:21 AM »
That is what this one was and also had a couple of gold plated rounds fixed in the case. It is more than likely at the Sooner grand national in OK. city today.
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Re: Did I pass on a real bargan or find?
« Reply #14 on: November 12, 2009, 02:11:02 PM »
Saw one recently on GUNS AMERICA website for $750.00  So, you mighta made a few bucks, but not enough to retire on...just yet.

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Re: Did I pass on a real bargan or find?
« Reply #15 on: November 21, 2009, 08:27:28 PM »
Getting off topic but Ebay did allow sales of firearms up to the year 1999 or 2000. I remember the topic coming up when thye banned complete firearm sales around 1999 and just allowed parts at that point. That was around the same time that Gunbroker started using the same software format as Ebay and picking up the slack.
Never did ebay allow complete firearm sales. I've been a seller/buyer since their inception and at one time,  a seller could disassemble a complete gun and sell it's parts there but not any longer. I've seen many WWII rifles sold this way on ebay but they became more observant and would pull the auctions. Ebay used to be THE place for Contender barrels of all types and it's sad that they won't allow these to be sold any longer.
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Re: Did I pass on a real bargan or find?
« Reply #16 on: November 25, 2009, 06:42:13 AM »
Never did ebay allow complete firearm sales. I've been a seller/buyer since their inception and at one time,  a seller could disassemble a complete gun and sell it's parts there but not any longer. I've seen many WWII rifles sold this way on ebay but they became more observant and would pull the auctions. Ebay used to be THE place for Contender barrels of all types and it's sad that they won't allow these to be sold any longer.
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You were buying and selling on ebay since 1995(their inception)? Wow, that goes way back.
http://www.wired.com/techbiz/media/news/1999/02/18033
" EBay, the popular Internet auction site, will ban all sales of guns and ammunition sales on its Web site, having determined that "the Internet is not an appropriate venue for this type of merchandise."
The decision, announced Friday, marks a change of policy for eBay, which has in the past said it would allow people to buy and sell firearms, provided the items were legal and were exchanged in a legal manner"



Ebay's policy archives: http://pages.ebay.com/aboutebay98/releases/9902.html#3
eBay To Stop User Listings Of Firearms And Ammunition On The Site

SAN JOSE, Calif. Feb. 19, 1999

Quote: Effective March 5, 1999, firearms will not be listed in any categories, including the "Firearms," "Antique," "Collectibles," and "Sport" categories.


http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-567356.html
Quote: "Legal firearms have been fair trade on eBay since its 1995 inception,..."

Now that I've proven that Graybeard and I are not senile I'll drop the history lesson and the topic subversion.  :)

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Re: Did I pass on a real bargan or find?
« Reply #17 on: December 04, 2009, 11:49:45 PM »
I stand corrected. My wife and I started on ebay back in 1996 selling second hand items and I slowly evolved into hunting related items. Never did I know that firearms were allowed on ebay. Thanks for the history lesson ralfus.
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Re: Did I pass on a real bargan or find?
« Reply #18 on: December 05, 2009, 03:33:15 PM »
I bought an M1 on ebay, sorta' like Johnny Cash's cadillac...one piece at a time.  Wound up with $470.00 in a complete M1, with matching #s on barrell and receiver.  Them were the days........
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