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Offline Questor

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Happy with your income tax increase?
« on: August 21, 2009, 07:43:10 AM »
Unless something radical changes, or you're poor, it's inevitable that you will get an income tax increase under Obama. How do you feel about that?

I think he's costing a lot of productive people a lot of money and he's going to be one of the most despised people in American history soon.
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Re: Happy with your income tax increase?
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2009, 09:01:15 AM »
Unless something radical changes, or you're poor, it's inevitable that you will get an income tax increase under Obama. How do you feel about that?

I think he's costing a lot of productive people a lot of money and he's going to be one of the most despised people in American history soon.
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Re: Happy with your income tax increase?
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2009, 09:11:11 AM »
Actually I was referring to the actual tax increase identified by Obama, you know, the "there will be no tax increases on the middle class" increase.

It's the politician that is in office that gets blamed for the increase.
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Re: Happy with your income tax increase?
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2009, 09:41:55 AM »
You have to understand the Obamaism.
To him being with ACORN if you are on welfare have 3 kids out of wedlock and are living in goverment subsidised housing, then you are middle class!  If you are a productive member of society and pay taxes then you are RICH and need to be knocked back to middle class by huge tax increases. 
Again tax increases only raise the price of goods and two ways.
tax increases reduce productivity.
tax increases cut jobs
tax increases make more people dependant on government.
tax increases cut the amount of $ the government has to spend on schools, police, Hospitals, and roads.
Cause you know these same bugger eating morons that made the short falls in Jobs and services would never take a pay cut, cut thier budgets, or cut aid to the people that are permiment welfare.

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Re: Happy with your income tax increase?
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2009, 09:45:06 AM »
Obama said he would not raise taxes on those making less than $250k per year. That is his word, if he breaks it and I assume he will, how much do you want to bet that the mainstream media will give him a complete pass....

The guy is a bold face liar and what he says amd does or what is almost always differant. Its the muslim way.
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Re: Happy with your income tax increase?
« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2009, 09:53:17 AM »
But Cabin 4.
Are you taking into acount all of your pay?
he may be thinking of all the hidden pay you do not see like the 2 dollars your employer sends to match the one you send for Social Security and medicaid, the cost of any and all health insurance your company supplies and other items  Take your pay and now add all the extra pay as well as any benefits you recieve, how much do you make now?  This is much like Al Gore said anyone making 250 a year was a millionaire and all millionaires need to pay more in taxes.
Also 250 in some parts of the country are not as much as you think.
80 a year is great in NC but to have the same life style in the bay area you will need to make close to 200 a year.
Also anyone making 250 or more are the ones that hire other people.  If you raise their taxes, they are not going to do with less they will cut back at the employees, After all if you have a company and hire three or four people make over 250 a year and now you are taxed so you have to do with less, less house, less fun, less what ever, know your business will suffer because of it, you will look to get rid of one of your four employees to make up the difference you will loose due to less $ to spend.  Now the "rich" will still have everything he worked for but one of the other people will now have to do with out as some jackass thinks he makes too much money and should have to give it away so someone else can spend it "better" than the guy who makes it.  The best way is to lower taxes across the board!  Get rid of other taxes that have been out dated and to lower sin and use taxes to free up disposable income.  With more disposable income more jobs will be created, more products will be made and prices will go down as incomes go up.
the government should take no more than 10% of your income.  Roman citizens would RIOT and kill government officials when the tax rate was over 8%.  We had a revolution and toss out the King and parlament over a 5% tea tax.
I now Pay more than 50% if you add up all the taxes, hidden and open, State, federal, personal property, fees and use taxes.  not to mention the taxes of the companies that produce the goods and services I use.  Companies look at Taxes as a business expense and add them into the cost of the good.
So raise the taxes on people, and a corperation is a person under the tax law, and the price of goods will rise.

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Re: Happy with your income tax increase?
« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2009, 10:21:58 AM »
Yes. If you're working and supporting a family with an average wage, and you think you are paying less than 50% in aggregate taxes, then you are not counting them right. It will be at least 50%. 60% in some states, like New York.
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Re: Happy with your income tax increase?
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2009, 10:30:52 AM »
The good old day are gone !
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Re: Happy with your income tax increase?
« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2009, 11:29:54 AM »
He was born at the wrong time in the wrong country. He would fit in well with Stalin and other good RUSSIAN COMMIES. He is not only a liar he is an ANTI AMERICAN . I think he needs to be taught that he is President and there is no KING in the United States Of Amreica.  He and that high strutting QUEEN  of his need to be Told the constitution was writtren to be the future of the USA. If he doen't understan that he needs to be UNHORSED or KICKED IN THE A-- one of the two or both!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Happy with your income tax increase?
« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2009, 11:50:38 AM »
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he's going to be one of the most despised people in American history soon.


WHAT DO YOU MEAN SOON?

I can show you 10 of 10 that I know  that would say he is right now!


He knew he was lying, his handlers knew he was lying, and we knew he was lying, his supporters still dont have a clue!
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Re: Happy with your income tax increase?
« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2009, 12:22:15 PM »
The good old day are gone !

When was the good old days?

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Re: Happy with your income tax increase?
« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2009, 12:29:10 PM »
The good old day are gone !

When was the good old days?
I once had my father and grandfather giving me crap about not owning a house. and the amount of $ I made.
I then started into to dad and said.  In 68 you paid 30K for a new house and were making 10K. So the house was 3X you pay.
total taxes you paid were?  he said about 2500 a year.  So 25%.
And I asked what the Buick station wagon cost.  he said he wrote a check for 2,450 for it.
I then said OK let's take my 40K a year in 97.  And said what did you sell the house for?  450,000.  Not 3X my pay.
then showed a pay check and was able to keep 63% of my pay.  so 37% fed and state.
and then I asked Dad what his new surburban cost.  since it had most of the features of the buick wagon.  37,500 was the surburban fully loaded.  the car went from 1/4 of his pay to all of my annual pay.
So I would say the 60's were the good days.

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Re: Happy with your income tax increase?
« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2009, 12:57:27 PM »
re: obama, "he's going to be one of the most despised people in American history soon."

as far as I am concerned he already is, along with Pelosi, Reid, Biden, Emanual, Frank, Acorn and all it's members, and the rest of that socialist/marxist ilk...traitors all...

   
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Re: Happy with your income tax increase?
« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2009, 12:58:45 PM »
Our car tags & DLs prices doubled recently.  It just keeps getting better.
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Re: Happy with your income tax increase?
« Reply #14 on: August 21, 2009, 12:59:42 PM »
Obama, Pelosi & Reed.

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Re: Happy with your income tax increase?
« Reply #15 on: August 22, 2009, 05:14:29 AM »
BHO sure didn't lie when he said "Change" and the USA will never be the same.
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Re: Happy with your income tax increase?
« Reply #16 on: August 22, 2009, 07:20:07 AM »
Give Bush a break. He didn't start anything! This all started about a hundred years ago. Its the puppet masters making the calls not the talking heads you see on TV. 8)
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Re: Happy with your income tax increase?
« Reply #17 on: August 22, 2009, 07:38:32 AM »
And we thought Carter was bad!
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Re: Happy with your income tax increase?
« Reply #18 on: August 23, 2009, 09:30:52 AM »
Sales tax here in NC are set to increase another percentage point the beginning of September.  A percentage point may not sound like much but with so many out of work, so many loosing homes, etc. it just ads insult to injury. 
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Re: Happy with your income tax increase?
« Reply #19 on: August 23, 2009, 11:18:40 AM »
Not much different here. We have two Provinces that are switching to a combined Federal and Provincial Sales Tax under the name of Harmonized Sales Tax (HST) What the Premiers are trying to dumb down on the people is that it is cheaper then the seperate tax calculations. NOT so !!

We have had this type of tax in the Maritimes for some lenght and it is more expensive.

Case in point
When you buy postage stamps in Canada a 7% Federal tax is added to the face value of the stamp( I am not kidding you !!) There is no Provincial tax on this until you get to the improved Version of fleecing you with the HST. You now pay 13% on that stamp.
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« Reply #20 on: August 23, 2009, 03:15:28 PM »
Sourdough:

Carter was bad. Real bad. This guy is worse. I regard him as the single most dangerous person in US history.
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Re: Happy with your income tax increase?
« Reply #21 on: August 23, 2009, 04:13:19 PM »
bill  klinton  got re-elected

who sane OBAMA  will  be re-elected  too

you  haven't seen any thing  yet

a  lame duck  OBAMA  and the  axis  of  evil  will  destroy the country

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they  will  pull  us  a little back  to the right

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did  anyone  call  a congressman  last  week
i  am sorry to  say i didn't either
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