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« on: October 02, 2003, 12:17:55 AM »
:cry: Do you have any puppy mill kennels for hunting dogs in your area? I know of one on the making now. What can be done to discourage them?
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« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2003, 04:39:28 AM »
:D Don't buy their pups and explain to your friends why they shouldn't get a pup there.

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« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2003, 09:24:48 AM »
sevendogs:  I'm in upstate NY and although we don't ahve a lot of puppy mills for hunting dogs, we've got puppy mills for every other type you can imagine.

I sure don't know what the hay is wrong with those breeders, except for their greed and the dollar signs that cloud their vision.   They turn out a lot of sad puppies who are born with lots of problems and more often than not wind up getting put down, and not in a kindly fashion either.  

Last June, at the end of the month I headed down to Princeton, NJ to pick up a dog I wanted to rescue.  A 6 yr old Black Standard Poodle.  Now this poor guy had been caged for the first 2 yrs of his life, then given some room to roam, but then sold to a rescue center and caged for 3 months.  When I got him, at the urging of the rescuer (cause the schmidt told me he was going to the public shelter if I didn't come get him - doancha just love people who hold pets hostage), he had rear left foot neuropathy that he has since overcome.   He is a clown, has lots of expressions and gets along well with my two older ones.  He's a keeper.

I had been hitting the local rescue shows and pet shows looking for one just like that to adopt, only to find that 3 of the local breeders had found favor with the pet adoption group in our area and was using the adoption clinics to sell off their overbreed - that is, those that could be sold off without apparent problems.  It hurt to see that, and it really frosted me.  I had serious words with the pet adoption group leader more than once and threatened to write it all up for the local paper if I didn't see a change.  It didn't give the dogs that needed adoption any chance at all, and it was tough going through those to see some of the older, trained and experienced pets languishing for adoption, hoping someone would notice them, while all the cute little puppies from the mills were stealing all the hearts.  Man, had I not had to limit myself in that regard I would now probably have a houseful of older dogs that wouldn't move too fast, fart a lot in their sleep, be grateful for whatever treat or snack they could get and be a faithful companion until their clocks stopped tickin'.

Yeah, we've got puppy mills in my neck of the woods and I don't like them at all.  I'm thinking that after I retire I might try to see if I can help rescue dogs.  My oldest two are 12.5 and 10.5 and have been with me since puppyhood, so they are a bit taken back when someone else comes around.   But they are nearing their time and afterward might be when I could organize some kennel space to help a couple of needy ones out.  

No sevendogs, I don't like puppy mills at all.  Mikey.

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« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2003, 12:56:36 PM »
sevendogs,
What is a puppy mill?  Never heard of one here in Califormia.
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« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2003, 03:43:04 PM »
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sevendogs,
What is a puppy mill?  Never heard of one here in Califormia.


 :-) There are many definitions of what is puppy mill. I understand it very broad. This is a kennel for a sort of dog farming, where dogs are locked up in pens for life or most of their life. They may be well fed and airconditioned, but it is still a dog farming. This is particularly detrimental for huting breeds, because such a breeder cannot know what hunting qualities, if any, present in his stock dogs. This is a breeding for degeneration of endurance, genetic vigour and intelligence in dogs.
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« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2003, 05:45:43 AM »
Thanks for the definition.  It seems to me that the puppy mills wouldn't do very well because of the lack of information the breeder could provide to the customer and to make a large decision such as a dog the owner should do research on things like puppymills.  Just my thoughts.  I can't believe people would run an opperation like that.  Thanks again.
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« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2003, 01:01:07 AM »
Seven,  Alln I can suggest is try to get the word out.  My dad was looking for a Chocolate lab and a neighbor worked with a guy that started breeding them. (hey, it's easy money) The guy didn't hunt and pumped out two, three or more litters a year. I don't even think he provided papers. Needless to say I was not interested in supporting this "puppy mill".   So my Dad looked elsewhere.
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