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Offline 72chevelle

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Marlin 1895 feeding problem
« on: October 02, 2003, 01:50:48 AM »
I have a marlin 1895 that the rim of the shell gets caught below the ramp on the right side of the receiver and shows some brass rubbing on the other side as well.  It seems the rear of the shell is not getting high enough to properly feed.  I can remove the shell and there are scuff marks on the case where it has entered the chamber.  The shell seems to be entering the chamber at too steep of an angle.  Any suggestions?  I am shooting 300 grain winchester hp's,  I haven't had a chance to try any other shells.  Would a longer overall length  help or hurt me?   Is there anything that can be done to get the rear of the shell higher?  Any info would be appreciated.  Thanks.
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« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2003, 06:27:38 AM »
Is this an original or a new version.  The problem is probably related to the lifter.  It unfortunately may also be a quality control issue.  If this is a new version and a fairly new rifle you may simply have burrs at the chamber mouth..  It's hard to diagnos from a distance.  If the lifter isn't raising the round enough it may be bent or the cam on the lifter itself or the lever may be worn or damaged enough to preclude proper operation.  It is also possible to bend the levers on these actions which can cause all sorts of problems from not feeding correctly to not properly indexing the firing pin safety..  Check for burrs/sharp edges on the chamber.  Failing there check the lifter for straightness or excessive wear and the lever cam for wear. .  Have you checked any of these?  Is this a new model?  Wear?  More info please..Where are the scuff marks on the round?
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« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2003, 02:39:39 AM »
Serial no. on the gun shows it was made in 1972.  The gun shows very little use, the bluing is still intact on the lever.The lifter raises  the nose of the bullet and enters the chamber, but the rim of the case is not high enough in the action to clear the ramp that is supposed to guide the shell into the chamber.  The gun  shows no wear.  When a shell jams the front of the bullet seems to be entering the chamber at too steep of an angle,the rim rubs the left side if the receiver,the right side of the rim catches on the guide on the right side of the receiver.  if the rim of the shell is higher in the action everything works fine.  The rim of the case does not get high enough for the bolt to grab it correctly. the bolt then forces the shell forward and the rim catches on the guide on the right side of the receiver.  Scuff  marks on the shell are at 12:00 on the nose and first 1/2 inch of case, a small shallow scuff at 9:00 and a deeper gouge at 3:00 when viewed facing the rim of the case.  I need to look and see if the case is catching on the chamber at the 6:00 position.  Thanks for the info.
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« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2003, 07:31:43 AM »
As I said before it's really difficult to diagnos a problem without actually seeing it but I'm going to guess the lifter is bent and or the actuator cams on the lever and/or the lifter are worn enough that they are failing to raise the round high enough to enter the chamber.  Is the lifter loose?  Could the carrier pivot screw be damaged or the hole thru which it goes broken out..  The carrier(lifter) should have very little wobble left to right.  Also could it be the wrong carrier?  The carrier for a 444 is similar but will not work..  Have you owned the rifle for a time or is it new to you.  Thirty plus years is a long time, could someone have worked on the carrier and caused this problem.  I'm betting on a bad carrier or lever cam.. Check for marks or obvious wear on the carrier and lever or obvious alteration marks on either..

PS_You can get an idea of how the lever/carrier combination works by disassembling the rifle and reassembling the lever and carrier to the trigger guard plate.
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« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2003, 10:37:04 AM »
One tip, if you are using Rem cases, mic the rim then mic the rim of WW cases, they generally run a little larger, then I would also, check the lifter for burrs or a small spot (hole crevice etc) even though you have an older rifle, this could cause a lift as the round is being levered fwd on the lifter and cause a tilt that you are not seeing.
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« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2003, 07:18:45 AM »
One suggestion on your problem. Go to www.sassnet.org. Sounds like a lifter problem and these guys shoot literally thousands of rounds thru them Marlins (like me and mine) and there is a fix. Good luck
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