KIDNAPPING

[williamlayton]

Have yo folks been keeping up with the 11 year old girl kidnapped 18 years ago in California.
She was found in a shed behind a house where she was kept captive. She gave birth too two children by the man who kidnapped her, they are 11 and 14.
She has been reunited with her father and mother.
The man and his wife, who was also one of the abductors, are in custody---sadly.
Blessings

[rex6666]

wow!
had not heard this one, some folks just don't make sense.

[ms]

I hope she and the kids get the help they need. Also hope they wright a book and movie deal for her.

[Questor]

We see stories in the news like this every so often. It's just terrible. How do you help a person who has been through that kind of thing.

[BBF]

What I find hard to believe is that she had no way of escape earlier in all of the 11 years!! Sounds fishy to me.

[williamlayton]

Trauma and abuse can hold a person captive. Her guilt at all of this being her fault holds her captive.
Blessings

[BBF]

Ten Four
that would do it alright

[Sourdough]

It's called the "Stockholm Syndrome" with only the captors contact the captured begin to look at the captor as a good person, mainly because they are responsible for the only good things that happen to the captive.  Food, water, shelter, and security.

After a year or two that had become her comfort zone.  She may have wanted to escape, but was now afraid to.  Especially after the two kids came along.

[SHOOTALL]

It is a very sad thing . Anyone who faults her is a sick puppy themselves . Sounds like some of the muslim ideas like stoning girls

[rockbilly]

This is the very reason I support the death penty.  Both husband and wife should receive death for holding her so long and impossing all the hard times on her children.

I pray for a quick and effective adjustment for the remainder of their lives.

[gypsyman]

Rockbilly, I hope youe right. But, with todays justice system, the best we can hope for is life in prisonment. gypsyman

[Dixie Dude]

Recent headlines say all they would get it life in prison.  Sick and sad.  Guy hasn't seen his own father in years.  His parents said he fried his brain on LSD when he was young.  He was also released from prison for rape in Nevada just before he abducted this girl.  Too much slap on the wrist in today's world.  We need more rope. 

[Sourdough]

Rockbilly: I agree with you, but unfortunately it won't happen.  Maybe they will get it in prison.

Shootall:  I hope you were not referring to what I said.  I was just trying to explain why when the captives sometimes have the opportunity to flee they don't always take it.  I would never blame her at all.

[slim rem 7]

 it makes you wonder how much of this may be happening right under our noses..
 but im still gonna resist getting my nose too far in other folks buisiness..


 but i might watch closer from a distance...

[billy_56081]

Hopefully he will be put in General population in prison. I would love to hear he was raped to death in prison.

[DDZ]

Garrido the guy that did the kidnapping, before he was convicted of rape he was convicted of kidnapping a 25 year old women in 1976. Police found him and the women in an abandoned warehouse where he had her tied and handcuffed. He was on parole at the time of kidnapping the girl. It seemed that parole worked out real well for him. The parole officer that visited Garrido's home different times must of checked things out real well not to have noticed his captives. The girls step father and her mother's marriage were destroyed. The stepfather was being blamed for his step daughter's disappearance.

What a sad story. How many peoples lives was our justice system going to let this guy destroy?  What consequences did this guy have to pay for rape and kidnapping in 1976? Just a couple of years in jail and then parole. Garrido does deserve death, along with his wife.    

[DDZ]

it makes you wonder how much of this may be happening right under our noses..
 but im still gonna resist getting my nose too far in other folks buisiness..


 but i might watch closer from a distance...

Slim, This is the kind of crap we need to make our business. How did this guy and his wife live in an area with neighbors, and the neighbors didn't have a clue what was going on. Or maybe some of them did and decided not to make it their business. 

[torpedoman]

child sex abuse should be an automatic death sentence. this guy was on parole now well supervised as the results show a campground in his back yard and no one even thought to check it out.

[DalesCarpentry]

child sex abuse should be an automatic death sentence. this guy was on parole now well supervised as the results show a campground in his back yard and no one even thought to check it out.

This is a subject that bothers me most!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I can not and will not go into this on a public fourm but I would like to see his head chopped off.  Dale

[Cabin4]

Yes, its about an 1.5 hour drive from where I live. I've been through that general are a time or two. Bazzar stuff.

[The Hermit]

TM7, you hit the nail on the head! My condolences to all involved, I hope they can become healed.
I can't begin to imagine what she went through. Power and control is often used wrongly. You are right.
Whole countries have gone crazy. Germany gave dictatorial powers to Hitler. Common folks gave up their rights and a nation was destroyed. Czars will control everything regardless what the population wants.
Tell your representatives what you want done and keep your fingers crossed. Be prepared.
Remember, there is no other United States to come to the rescue this time.

   The Hermit

[alsaqr]

The kidnapper scumbag is/was a suspect in the deaths of quite a few prostitutes.  Now the sorry part:  The scumbag was reported on by a neighbor several years ago.  The investigating officer did not even check the sex offender registry or give the guys place a good look.   

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_kidnapped_girl_found

A neighbor called 911 in November 2006 and described Garrido as a psychotic sex addict who was living with children and had people staying in tents in his backyard.

The investigating officer spent a half-hour interviewing Garrido on his front porch but did not enter the house or search the backyard, Contra Costa County Sheriff Warren E. Rupf said. The deputy, who did not know Garrido was a registered sex offender even though the sheriff's department had the information, warned Garrido that the tents could be a code violation before leaving.

"We missed an opportunity to bring earlier closure to this situation," Rupf acknowledged. "I cannot change the course of events but we are beating ourselves up over this and continue to do so."

.......................

She is now free thanks in large part to two quick-thinking police employees at the University of California, Berkeley who came across a rambling Garrido this week, with Dugard's two daughters in tow. He was on campus because he wanted to hold some sort of religious event.

Garrido seemed incoherent and mentally unstable, and the girls wore drab-colored dresses, were unusually subdued, had an unnaturally pale complexion and appeared robotic and rehearsed when they spoke, said Lisa Campbell. They said they were home-schooled by their mother and had a 29-year-old sister at home.

[alsaqr]

Then there is this:

Probyn said he was frustrated to find out that a car matching the description of the one he saw speeding Dugard away in the day she was kidnapped was found in the yard of Garrido's home. Nancy Garrido also fits the "dead-on" description he gave of the woman who pulled her into the car, he said.

"He had every break in the world," Probyn said of Garrido's close encounters with the law.

[Cabin4]

BTW...Stockholm syndrome applies to entire countries, too....entire populations identify with their oppressors....

..TM7

The first step in bringing remedy to your fault is recognizing & admiting to it. I'm curiuos if TM7 may have "seen the light".......

[Cabin4]

BTW...Stockholm syndrome applies to entire countries, too....entire populations identify with their oppressors....

..TM7

The first step in bringing remedy to your fault is recognizing & admiting to it. I'm curiuos if TM7 may have "seen the light".......

Yeah sure...and I've seen many lights along the way, too. One way to jack deer is to shine a bright light in their eyes long enough to daze them before you shoot them.

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Since this Garrido kidnapper character was some kind of judaeo-christian nutter (I'm started to fret about all these religious whackadoddles.. ), I wonder if worldnetdaily will feature the story with their nutter muzzie child abuse pieces they run.??.

..TM7

There seems to be pretty good historical record in place that nuts come in all forms. And yes, that includes Muslims TM7. I know that’s a taboo non PC thing to say among you Liberal communist elites. But I  feel like I'm on solid ground to say that Muslims are by far the clear winners in the nut case category. Again, I know this is hard for Liberals to take, but yes, killing thousands of innocent people in the name of Allah is actually not a just and ethical thing to do.

In the case of the Christian in California kidnapping that girl and holding her for years, I agree that’s a nut case. However, in places that you Liberals love, he may very well be on solid ground to claim Sharia law. After all, women are for men to do with as they please there. I wonder if the cops or people involved in finding this nut case, helping the women and her kids, and the prosecutor are all Muslims?? Likely not, there just nut case Christians enforcing the law and helping. Those horrible Christians!

[Skunk]

The two female police officers at UC-Berkley deserve extra special kudos for their motherly instincts and excellent detective work in getting this Garrido pervert busted and placed behind bars.

[billy_56081]

BTW...Stockholm syndrome applies to entire countries, too....entire populations identify with their oppressors....

..TM7

Since this Garrido kidnapper character was some kind of judaeo-christian nutter (I'm started to fret about all these religious whackadoddles.. ), I wonder if worldnetdaily will feature the story with their nutter muzzie child abuse pieces they run.??.

..TM7

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TM are you working on some new material for the BBQ?  Hey let us know where to send the invitation and directions to the party. Don't worry TM I'll keep my bro's deputies off ya. In 56081 land we have lots of illegals and unless you all do a serious crime the INS doesn't deport you all. They just have us let ya go when your sentence is served.

[Cabin4]

BTW...Stockholm syndrome applies to entire countries, too....entire populations identify with their oppressors....

..TM7

The first step in bringing remedy to your fault is recognizing & admiting to it. I'm curiuos if TM7 may have "seen the light".......

Yeah sure...and I've seen many lights along the way, too. One way to jack deer is to shine a bright light in their eyes long enough to daze them before you shoot them.

+++++++++++++++++++++++

Since this Garrido kidnapper character was some kind of judaeo-christian nutter (I'm started to fret about all these religious whackadoddles.. ), I wonder if worldnetdaily will feature the story with their nutter muzzie child abuse pieces they run.??.

..TM7

There seems to be pretty good historical record in place that nuts come in all forms. And yes, that includes Muslims TM7. I know that’s a taboo non PC thing to say among you Liberal communist elites. But I  feel like I'm on solid ground to say that Muslims are by far the clear winners in the nut case category. Again, I know this is hard for Liberals to take, but yes, killing thousands of innocent people in the name of Allah is actually not a just and ethical thing to do.

In the case of the Christian in California kidnapping that girl and holding her for years, I agree that’s a nut case. However, in places that you Liberals love, he may very well be on solid ground to claim Sharia law. After all, women are for men to do with as they please there. I wonder if the cops or people involved in finding this nut case, helping the women and her kids, and the prosecutor are all Muslims?? Likely not, there just nut case Christians enforcing the law and helping. Those horrible Christians!

crazy whackadoodle
muzzie nutter
shortcomings




 
Stockholm syndrome capturing the senses of the masses by their oppressors...you're a good example. 


..TM7

[Cabin4]

BTW...Stockholm syndrome applies to entire countries, too....entire populations identify with their oppressors....

..TM7

The first step in bringing remedy to your fault is recognizing & admiting to it. I'm curiuos if TM7 may have "seen the light".......

Yeah sure...and I've seen many lights along the way, too. One way to jack deer is to shine a bright light in their eyes long enough to daze them before you shoot them.

+++++++++++++++++++++++

Since this Garrido kidnapper character was some kind of judaeo-christian nutter (I'm started to fret about all these religious whackadoddles.. ), I wonder if worldnetdaily will feature the story with their nutter muzzie child abuse pieces they run.??.

..TM7

There seems to be pretty good historical record in place that nuts come in all forms. And yes, that includes Muslims TM7. I know that’s a taboo non PC thing to say among you Liberal communist elites. But I  feel like I'm on solid ground to say that Muslims are by far the clear winners in the nut case category. Again, I know this is hard for Liberals to take, but yes, killing thousands of innocent people in the name of Allah is actually not a just and ethical thing to do.

In the case of the Christian in California kidnapping that girl and holding her for years, I agree that’s a nut case. However, in places that you Liberals love, he may very well be on solid ground to claim Sharia law. After all, women are for men to do with as they please there. I wonder if the cops or people involved in finding this nut case, helping the women and her kids, and the prosecutor are all Muslims?? Likely not, there just nut case Christians enforcing the law and helping. Those horrible Christians!

Ha..! Card carrying so-called conservative gets shorts in a bunch... I answered your question then went on to muse if wnd would put this under their crazy whackadoodle religious based crimes categories, which is oft cited here for muzzie nutter stuff as religious shortcomings.  Apparently not even though nuts come in all forms.  I didn't know you were an expert in muzzie or sharia law...as I get a different interpretation relative to comparison to other religions.

Now as to who is winning the race as the most destructive killer religion is a toss up, but my bet it is the judaeo-christian creed. In fact, in your last finger pointing exercize, it was Lincoln who murdered 600,000 fellow Christinas and as you say, keeping in company with Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini...all good judaeo-christians, except stalin who was a jew.

So, exactly my point...these horrid people come around in all shapes and sizes just for your information,,,and of course there is only one religion that stands out institutionalizing mass murder, plunder, and slavery in thier scriptures.

As for Stockholm syndrome capturing the senses of the masses by their oppressors...you're a good example. 


..TM7

crazy whackadoodle
muzzie nutter
shortcomings

And you used this phrase to describe me, what a joke. Your the one that wants to government to wipe your arse for you and you say I have the syndrome! What a fool.

As for Stockholm syndrome capturing the senses of the masses by their oppressors:::::


Here ya go TM7. Take a look at the real problem.

 
Look familar?

[billy_56081]

TM spews the standard for the antisemite Nazi groups. They take something that is the exception to the rule for a groups of people and try to compare it to the norm of their group. TM's hero Adolf Hitler took exceptions of behavior of the Jews and pusshed them as the norm, just as TM is doing here witjh the Cristians and in most other cases with the Jews. We are dealing with a hate monger here who went under a different screen name for years until exposed. It discusts me that someone in this day and age can spew such hate for Christians and Jews while trumpeting muslims as a misunderstood peaceful group.


TM how about that location? Hiding something?