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Offline skarke

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New to the 30 carbine
« on: August 28, 2009, 12:26:14 PM »
Guys, seeking info here.  My Nephew and his good friend both have 30 carbines.  Ammo is expensive, so I'm helping them handload.  Currently, were using 110 grain rn fmj with great functioning.

Here's the question.  I've read a couple of threads about shooting lead in the 30 carbine.  Many refer to a tool that is necessary to take the 30 carbine down and expose the gas port to clear any lead fouling.  I'm not sure what they are talking about, so.......

1.  What's the tool?
2.  What is your opinion about shooting lead in a 30 carbine?
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Re: New to the 30 carbine
« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2009, 12:55:01 PM »
I have no experience shooting lead bullets in my carbines...always use FMJ...but the tool is called a gas piston nut wrench.  It's for removing the gas piston nut which will allow you to remove the gas piston for cleaning.  Should be available for a few bucks most anywhere you can get carbine parts and accessories. 
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Re: New to the 30 carbine
« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2009, 03:44:40 PM »
Thanks Gunblade,

I'm still very interested in anyone's experience with lead in the 30 carbine.  I've read a few posts over the past couple of months, some say no problems occur, others say gas piston leading sometimes show.
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Re: New to the 30 carbine
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2009, 02:46:23 PM »
all depends on the velocity and the alloy of lead.
at anything much over 1200 fps, mine loose accuracy to
the point that it really is not worth shooting them.
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Re: New to the 30 carbine
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2009, 05:02:40 PM »
I have a Lyman 4 cavity 120 gr. RN plain base mold that with 12 grs. 2400 shoots great.  I've shot a lot of lead thru mine.  Several of my friends also shoot lead.  We've all obtained an extra gas piston and ground it shorter so it doesn't eject the cases and lose them when walking up jack rabbits, using it like a straight pull bolt action, just takes a few minutes to change from the short one to the standard length.  Haven't had any problems from shooting the lead.
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Re: New to the 30 carbine
« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2009, 06:37:40 PM »
check CMP for tools and accuraterizing info on the carbine
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Re: New to the 30 carbine
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2009, 01:53:07 AM »
I used to make up small game loads for the carbine using a Lyman 115 grain flat nose gas check bullet. That was long ago and I don't recall the specific load but they were nearly as accurate a jacketed and I never experienced any problems at all. Now I find the "Berry's" brand plated FMJ's so cheap it isn't worth the bother to cast.
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Re: New to the 30 carbine
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2009, 06:46:39 AM »


     You can find that wrench tool at any large gun show, where somebody has a layout of M1 Carbine spare parts.  Very easy to find.  Asking price runs between $10.00 and $15.00 in my experience.

     As for using lead ammo, I have seen that most carbines start to jam after just 150 or so of the regular fmj rounds, not from the lead but from the gummy GI type powder.   So, if you are adding lead bullets to the mix,  then yea, you are definitely going to run into jamming problems after just a box or two of ammo.

    And (here's why I don't like the Carbine), that gas port is not just a "snap" to clean.  Breaking down the gun to get to it, unscrewing that nut, and cleaning that port is a total pain in the butt!  And it takes time. (You have to really clean the barrel well at the same time.)

    Be sure to buy a good supply of pipe cleaners for use in cleaning the port.  You will need them!

Regards,

Mannyrock
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