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What's best for hogs and deer
« on: August 29, 2009, 08:46:40 AM »
What is your favorite barrel for hunting Hogs and Arkansas size deer?  I have a G2 frame.  I only reload 9mm now for shooting IDPA, but I have a good 550 reloader.  I was thinking 30-30 or 357.
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Re: What's best for hogs and deer
« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2009, 04:21:59 PM »
   I'd vote 30-30 because I was going to say 41 Mag and 7-30 Waters.
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Re: What's best for hogs and deer
« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2009, 08:54:47 PM »
 I use the 14" 7-30 Waters barrel in my Contender for deer, hogs, and coyotes. I have never been disappointed in how well it shoots, and how quickly it dispatches game with the Nosler 120 gr BTs. If you don't reload, I recommend the .30-30 using the Hornady Leverevolution ammo.

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Re: What's best for hogs and deer
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2009, 05:00:24 AM »
    375Win!!!

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Re: What's best for hogs and deer
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2009, 05:10:59 PM »
If you handload, then the 7x30 is fine, fine, fine.  If you are not interested in handloading, then the 30-30 is tops.

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Re: What's best for hogs and deer
« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2009, 12:12:45 AM »
If you do hand load what is the difference your cost of handloading 7x30 and 30-30 Dezynco?  I have a Dillon 550 reloader in the closet with a set of 9mm dies that I bought to reload when I started shooting IDPA and found you could buy them for about the same price, but I bet that is different for these type loads.












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Re: What's best for hogs and deer
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2009, 02:26:24 AM »
The cost difference is virtually non-existant.  However, headstamped 7x30 Waters brass is more costly, and getting hard to find.  I make all mine from 30-30 brass.  Nothing to it, you just lube the case and run it up into the die.  Then you load a very light load for the first fire-forming and presto, you have a 7x30 Waters.  The fire-forming actually moves the neck forward and expands the case walls out a little.

 I've also heard of some folks putting a tiny charge of Bullseye pistol powder (3 or 4 grains) and stuffing the case with tissue on top of the charge, then filling the case with grits or cream of wheat, followed by another wad of tissue to fire-form the case.  Always sounded like a lot of trouble to me, but it would save a lot of bullets if you want to be frugal.

I usually just use my first fire-form loads for target practice.  I load 5 grains of Red Dot (shotgun powder) with a cast lead bullet for the fire-form/target practice loads.  Surprisingly accurate.

A Dillon 550, huh?  Those are great presses, but not too good for a beginner.  A lot of crap to adjust if you change dies to another caliber.  You might consider getting a very basic single stage press like the Lee Classic to learn on.  Save the Dillon for later.  I've been reloading all my 41-year-old life and still prefer a single stage press for my rifle loads.

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Re: What's best for hogs and deer
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2009, 07:04:09 AM »
I've got a reply from SE Arkansas. I shoot a Contender super 14" in 30-30 Win. I use a moderately heavy load of IMR 4198 and 125 gr Nosler BT's. They will kill deer DEAD in their tracks if you do your part. I get plenty of expansion and penetration for anybody on our deer (which are NOT monsters).

I've killed deer from 5 yards to 175 with the gun/load and am very happy with the combo. Good luck.

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Re: What's best for hogs and deer
« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2009, 01:13:50 PM »
My vote is a .35 Rem with Hornady pointed 200gr out of old style contender super 16.  4 seasons with the gun, 2nd with the hornady's has worked very good on feral hogs of all sizes, and a few corsicans. 
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Re: What's best for hogs and deer
« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2009, 01:27:45 PM »
For deer the 7-30 but for hogs the .35 Remington or .44 magnum in factory barrels. The .30-30 would do for both and I've made do with the 7-30 for both exotics and hogs on a hunt before.  With proper placement it's a fine round for all but I do like a wee bit more if big hogs are on the agenda. For meat hogs just eating size I'd go with the 7-30 first, then either the .35 Rem or .30-30 if ya gotta stick to factory ammo.

Don't over look the .44 mag tho from a TC it's a solid 125-150 yard deer killer and works well on hogs as well.


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Re: What's best for hogs and deer
« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2009, 02:29:03 PM »
Hard to top the old "Thutty-Thutty", no matter how you shake it up and pour it out.

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Re: What's best for hogs and deer
« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2009, 12:44:38 AM »
Ok from all the reading I've been doing I'm starting to consider the .44 mag as my choice.  It seems you can load it down to shoot around the house and load it up for hunting.  I haven't seen anyone say anything negative about this round.  What I have seen is alot of discussion on hardcast verses jacketed, but that's for another discussion.  I assume that a barrel longer than 10" isn't much advantage because most of the people hunting with the revolvers have 5 to 6 inch barrels and kill everything from deer to elephant with them.  Since it's so popular I assume it's reasonable to find and reload this round, kinda like the 30/30.  I've been reading a lot of good things about the 45lc.  It seems to be comparable to the .44mag, almost.   
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Re: What's best for hogs and deer
« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2009, 02:40:35 AM »
I have been reading alot of comments on the .45 colt being comparable to the .44 mag when handloaded.  The larger metplate and larger case capacity giving hotter loads with less pressure.  Since you say you are already loading it, why don't you just use it?  As long as you have tight chambers the brass will stand up to the hotter loads with no problem.  Infact that is the case and round originally used to develope the .454 Casual.  But again it is worth repeating, tight chambers are required and some older guns do not have tight chambers.
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Re: What's best for hogs and deer
« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2009, 09:36:22 AM »
I would go with the .30-30 in a 14" barrel.  The only reason I would choose a .357 for deer would be if I wanted to go with a shorter, 8" or 10" barrel.  But even then I would take a .45 Colt over the .357.
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Re: What's best for hogs and deer
« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2009, 03:00:36 PM »
Are the 45lc as easy find reloading supplies for as the 44mag? 
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Re: What's best for hogs and deer
« Reply #15 on: September 08, 2009, 03:39:03 PM »
Not a problem to find reloading supplies for the old 45, but not as common as the 44 mag.  Since you've got a 45, what the heck, use it.  I've consistently popped Coke cans at 50 yards with 45/410 barrel.  The 45LC tosses a big chunk of lead, so it's a pretty good deer/pig cartridge at close ranges.