Author Topic: Charles Daly Little Sharps (Read 3090 times)

ShooterToo · « **on:** August 30, 2009, 01:08:54 PM »

I've tried to find one of these ever since I first heard about them with no luck. I hate buying something sight unseen but came into some extra cash and took a chance. I ordered one in 45 Colt and so far, two weeks, I am pleased. I have about 100 rounds through it so far and really like this little rifle. I wish I could get the unset trigger pull doen to about 4lbs but other than that I like it.

It will hold about two inches at 100 yds from the bench and easily maintain "hunting" accuracy for my area. I hunt the Pascagoula River Swamp and a long shot is 75 yds most times. I did make an 80 yard shot once while hunting the powerline. The new rifle should be perfect for my area.

If anyone has one and have done any mods, i.e. dressing it up or making it better i'd like to hear from you.

dpe.ahoy · « **Reply #1 on:** September 02, 2009, 06:32:07 PM »

I don't have one but have fondled a couple and they are sweeeet! The ones I was lusting after were 38-55 and just about as pretty as my wife. If my 101 K gets back up to a 401 K, I just may have to get me one. DP

ShooterToo · « **Reply #2 on:** September 11, 2009, 08:52:03 AM »

The 38-55 would be a sweet little rifle for the Mississippi Primitive Weapon Season. I think one in 32-20 or 327 would be a nice little walk around gun. I'm looking for someone local to dress up the un-set trigger pull. I'd like to get it down to 3.5 -4.5 lbs for hunting.

BlkHawk73 · « **Reply #3 on:** September 13, 2009, 04:47:08 AM »

have wanted one in .357 mag myself as a project platform but just cannot see spending the $ they are asking for them just yet.

Belt Fed .50 Cal. · « **Reply #4 on:** September 17, 2009, 06:11:30 PM »

I have one in .38-55 and I like it. The only negative thing I have found about it is that the triggers are too close together. It is hard for me to get my finger on the back trigger. I have average size hands. I would really like for them to offer it in .32-40 Win.

jcn59 · « **Reply #5 on:** September 18, 2009, 05:23:59 PM »

How 'bout a picture? Are they expensive?

DCmauser · « **Reply #6 on:** September 23, 2009, 12:38:49 PM »

Expensive: MSRP of $1,250 NIB – so maybe 800-900 on sale?

Pictures:

http://www.charlesdaly.com/images/cowboylg_littlesharps_l.jpg

http://www.kimar.com/eng/dettaglioA.asp?idSottoFamiglia=50

ShooterToo · « **Reply #7 on:** October 04, 2009, 06:17:14 AM »

They are a little pricey but so far I like mine. I'm even thinking about getting a 38-55. I wish the could be had in 32-20 or even a 32 Mag.

Fred M · « **Reply #8 on:** October 05, 2009, 10:12:32 AM »

THey are pricey alright, and nothing much to look at. For that money you can get a real good looking Ruger#1 or a Browning low or high wall.

ShooterToo · « **Reply #9 on:** October 09, 2009, 04:03:31 PM »

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and the Sharps is a pretty beholding rifle if you ask me. I've not seen any #1s yet that looked good enough to buy and if I wanted a ten pound rifle then yes the 1885 would be a good choice. I wanted trim and light so I went with the Sharps.

Fred M · « **Reply #10 on:** October 09, 2009, 06:54:09 PM »

Shooter Too

Here is my 7x57 with a 22" barrel that does not come anywhere near 10lbs. More like 7-1/2. The rifle has a nice 2lbs trigger.

Sorry you toke offence to my statement. I am glad you like your rifle. The old anteque looks don't turn my crank nor do many other old models with crude finish and poor wood.

The Ruger #1 is a truly modern well made, finished, accurate and strong for any hunting cartridge.

jcn59 · « **Reply #11 on:** October 09, 2009, 07:39:43 PM »

Ugly old 7 1/2 # 30-06 Gunbroker $600. w/o scope. Just wanted to show it off. The dwarf Sharps is a cutie!

ShooterToo · « **Reply #12 on:** October 11, 2009, 11:56:16 PM »

"Sorry you toke offence to my statement. I am glad you like your rifle. The old anteque looks don't turn my crank nor do many other old models with crude finish and poor wood."

FredM,

You say you mean no offense yet you continue to dog my choice in rifles. While the wood on mine isn't highly figured nor the finish a mirror polish charcoal blue it does in fact reflect the fit and finish of the original Sharps. Crude and poor describe you comments, not my rifle's fit or finish.

Had you paused from your attacks long enough to actually read my post you would see that the ten pound comment refered to the 1885. And while that is quite possibly one of the finest looking cartridge rifle produced, it isn't what I was looking for. I wanted short and handy without appearing chopped off as the Winchester Trapper model 1885s do.

You have a very nice looking rifle but as I said before I haven't seen one yet that I liked well enough to buy.

If my choice of walkaround gun is not to your liking why not just ignore my post rather than come aboard and piss all over it?

Graybeard · « **Reply #13 on:** October 12, 2009, 01:17:00 AM »

I really find the looks of the Alex Henry fore end quite ugly. To me Ruger #1s are heavy like boat anchors and while in general nice enough looking guns they do more often than not have serious accuracy issues.

I've owned a grand total of one and got it ONLY because it was the only thing I could find in a 6MM Remington chambering which I really wanted. It was unable to keep most three shot groups on an 8.5"x11" target sheet at 100 yards even after fore end work. It was perhaps the second least accurate rifle I've ever owned. Sadly the worst was an imported and very crude version of the Sharps. The Ruger exuded some sort of white substance from the seam in the metal on the receiver. I can't recall just where it was now. No matter how often I cleaned it off it came back soon afterward. I have no clue what it was or why it did that.

I traded it back to the shop I bought it at and got a Browning Low Wall .243 as close to the 6MM as I was able to get. That rifle was beautiful, slim and trim and not at all heavy and best of all grouped almost everything I shot thru it factory or reload into groups of 0.40" to 0.80" at 100 yards and yeah even five shot groups not just three shots. I regret letting that little beauty go really I do.

Fred M · « **Reply #14 on:** October 12, 2009, 08:08:03 AM »

ShooterToo.
Your points are well taken without offence.

I have quite a collection of Ruger #1's. Non fit the description of G.B. 6mmRem. All are super accurate, even though I bought all of them used and quite old. I wished I had many more of those boat anchors.

Ruger #1's have no seams in the receiver because it is a one piece investment casting. If the rifle shot that bad Ruger would have fixed it with a new barrel.

The Alex Henry fore arm is very well received by many #1 users.
Including my self, I just made one from a standard forearm for my new custom 6.5x284. This fore arm is really ugly, ha!

A new stock maker(Stocker Gunstock Company a division of LuxusProducts,LLc) that started to make stocks for the T.C. rifles was requested to produce custom #1 stocks with the A.H. fore arms. These fancy grade stocks will be available soon for the #1.

Graybeard · « **Reply #15 on:** October 12, 2009, 12:07:43 PM »

It's been too long to remember precisely. Thinking back on it perhaps the seam between frame and barrel. Can't remember as I have tried really hard to forget that bad experience. Someone who is familiar with the guns once told me what it likely was but I don't recall who or what the explanation was. Matters not really it was a junker and yes I realize Ruger would have made it right and likely did for whomever got it after me. I only wanted to be rid of it.

Brithunter · « **Reply #16 on:** October 12, 2009, 12:21:08 PM »

Hmmm what I find confusing is that I have never yet seen an original Alexandra Henry rifle with such a fore end fitted

and I too don't care for it as I cannot see quite the point of the slot at the tip. Mine has the normal fore end as I had the No1B in 300 Win Mag

and yes I liked it but it had to go to swing a deal on three Boer Mausers.

Fred M · « **Reply #17 on:** October 16, 2009, 06:59:11 PM »

Brithunter.

Hmmm what I find confusing is that I have never yet seen an original Alexandra Henry rifle with such a fore end fitted

Well you have not looked hard enough.

Guns International. com Item # 100096185 has a cased set of an
Alexander Henry 450Express. Finished in 1868, it has the same fore arm as the Ruger#1. Cased in oak and leather inside, all tools, moulds, Eley wax, leather pouch with cleaning rod, Origional key for case. It is in a well cared for shape
Price $13,500.00

Brithunter · « **Reply #18 on:** October 16, 2009, 11:19:15 PM »

No probably not, they are always out of my league price wise and I just get upset that I cannot have one. There are enough trials already with what I cannot have so

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Perhaps I should re-phrase my comment:-

None of the ones I have come across have had such a fore end

Nearly all of them have had either steel cap or horn cap to the fore stock which is more normal for a British rifle. The steel tips seems to be from earlier transition rifles, early breechloaders and are probably a hang over for the muzzle loading days. Heck some of the early breech loaders still had clearing rods to deal with stuck cases.

gunnut69 · « **Reply #19 on:** November 17, 2009, 07:19:07 AM »

I realize I'm a bit late here but had to comment.. I love the no.1 and own several..including a 6mm, a 220 swft, a 25-06, and a 300 Win Mag. The Swift and the 300 are Varmit models the others a'B' models.. All weigh in as medium to heavy sporters and in the 300 Mags case the bit of extra weight is appreciated when shooting with full loads. Shot it yesterday morning and took a nice doe for the freezer.. Rugers origianlly outsourced its barrels but switched to making it's own and when they did they really sucked at it. I've seen 77/22 that had so many tight/loose sections in the bore they that a bullet had no chance at all of making a safe transite. Ruger handled the transition difficulties very well, they just replaced the barrels with quality outsourced barrels and appologized. It was a PIA but they did all they could. Better that those hadn't made it out of the factory but OH WELL.. The No.1's problems were sometimes related to long throats.. I'm unsure why but it seemed one could seat the bullets almost out of the case before it even got close to the rifling. But most shot just fine. My 6mm also has this problem. With 85 grain HPBT Sierras it's accuracy is just fair and heavier bullets help but that's not what I was looking for when I bought the rifle.. The rest are good rifles with the 300 a little special. It was made for the shotshow years ago and little interest was generated so the rifle was sold. There were 4 (2-300 mags and 2-7mm Rem Mags)made. Both 300's were sold in Jefferson City and I know the owner of the other. The 7mm's were sold elsewhere.. Mine shoots the same year after years and produces 1 inch groups (+ or -) with a simple load from the Nosler manual with a 180 grain partition.. The results are devistating..on game..