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Re: Mexico as replacement for US health care
« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2009, 11:25:58 AM »
Some how I just don't think I want mexican doctors working on me and for dang sure I ain't going into mexico fer nuttin. Not in this life time.


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« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2009, 11:40:21 AM »
I have several friends who have all their dental work done in Mexico, all are really pleased with the work and say it is less than half the price for th4e same work here in Texas.  One friend had a complete set of dentures made for just over $400.  they really do look good, and since the price here at home was $1500. he saved a bunch.  I understand a lot of the folks that practice there are American, keep their clinics exceptionally clean, treat the patients very well.they are there to avoid the high cost of insurance and goverment restrictions on American doctors.

I kind of agree with GB on visiting Mexico, it use to be fun, cheap and safe but that is not the case today.  If I did have to go it would be daylight, and I would be back across the border before the sun set.

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Re: Mexico as replacement for US health care
« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2009, 11:43:54 AM »
One of the best PRK/Lasik clinics in the region is over in Agua Prieta. World class equipment, facilities look straight out of Beverly Hills, and the staff are all American trained. Just a whole lot cheaper to run without American government requirements, and a whole lot cheaper for the patient.
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« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2009, 12:40:06 PM »
Somebody has been smoking too much Mexican Pot!

I realize that every location is not comparable but many locations in Mexico are dependent on free medical care from the Flying Doctors.  http://www.flyingdocs.org/about/index.php
A number of them have given their life to the mission.

My mother-in-law had a place 600 miles below the border and I would go down there fishing.  Many of the retired Americans paid for insurance to get out of Mexico in case of illness.  My father-in-law went down there this spring to retrieve and new 4x4 Ford that was left behind when a friend had to be flown back to the States.

My father-in-law became ill down there about 15-years ago when we were staying at the place and fishing.  He had surgery about a month before the trip.  He started having problems and I loaded him up about 2 a.m. and made a fast 600-mile trip back to the states on rather poor highway.

I talked to another gringo down there who told me that a Mexican Doctor removed his ruptured appendix.  He had phrase to the care he received.

In the small fishing village we stayed in they were dependent on the flying doctors.  My brother-in-law broke a tooth down there and it was repaired by a dentist from California who is part of the flying doctors organization.

Most seniors wait until they get down there to fill their prescriptions.
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« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2009, 01:14:31 PM »
If medical care is so cheap in Mexico why are they all swarming into this country like flies? Oh wait, I almost forgot, illeagal Mexicans get it for free here. 
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« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2009, 02:44:18 PM »
No insurance in Mexico; pay as you go. That's why there are some high class medical clinics in border towns across from California all the way to Tejas. Americans have $, as do the drug cartels who live near by. I used to see families from across the border shopping at the mall in Tucson, driving really nice cars. These folks are not like the rest of Mexico. I know for a fact that the popular dental clinics in Juarez, Agua Prieta do more business putting grills on the cartels than they do putting orthodonture on gringos.
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« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2009, 03:02:19 PM »
We go to mexico and pay for medical expenses, mexican illegals come to America and get FREE medical??? Whats wrong with this picture???  Oh yea, ILLEGALS. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
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Re: Mexico as replacement for US health care
« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2009, 08:46:23 AM »
Thanks, but NO thanks!

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Re: Mexico as replacement for US health care
« Reply #9 on: September 03, 2009, 06:49:57 AM »
If Obama pushes his health care program through you may see more doctors moving south of the border.  Last night I talked to a friend who, (both he and his wife) have had dental work done across from Del Rio, TX, He is convinced the care they get is as good, or better, than he can get here in Texas.  According to him the doctors are both Americans, live on the American side of the border, where schooled at the University of Texas but chose to move to Mexico due to insurance and liability rules/laws here in the USA.

A while back I had a young man working for me whose teeth were in terrible shape, he came in my office one day looking for a needle, I didn’t have one so he asked for a paperclip.  He went back in the shop sharpened the paperclip and stuck it all the way to the root of an absesed tooth to drain and relieve the pressure.  I asked him why he didn’t go to a dentist, he said no one would take him because he was a single father of three young girls and had no insurance (he elected not to take company insurance).  Someone suggested going to Mexico to have his teeth fixed.  A short while later he made an appointment, drove down for a consultation, then went back for three days for the dental work.  According to him, they pulled two teeth, did three root canals, filled several teeth, and made a bridge for the missing teeth.  He went back to have the bridge installed and said his bill for everything was just over $1200. and they allowed him to make payments with no interest. According to my friend, most of the business in this clinic is American.

Food for thought, where will you seek medical care if Obama is successful in passing his health care package?  I think a lot of the doctors will go off shore to get away from government.  Getting medical help overseas is nothing new, people have been going to places around the world for years, a lot of folks go to Thailand for cosmetic surgery.  Many seek new or innovative medical help from other countries because the government won’t allow the practice here.  It's just a matter of what flips your skirt up...........


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« Reply #10 on: September 03, 2009, 05:42:08 PM »
While I took a shot at Mexican health care it is not any better in many rural mountain counties in California.  If you are established with a doctor and a good health plan near the cities it is okay.  But in many areas seriously injured people have had to be flown out for years. 

Many years ago there was a nurse at the Forks of the Salmon who was married to a gold miner.  She had a couple of oxygen bottles, and first aid supplies along with knowledge.  After she passed there was nobody. 

I have been in similar locations in other western states.  Many hospitals do not contract with BC-BS insurance and you are up the creek.  The number games say there are fewer doctors in rural America today then years back.

In the days of the big lumber mills there were company doctors, but the mills are gone now

A year ago a brother went to the local hospital and his insurance covered most of his hospitial care.  The doctor who treated him in the emergency room does not contract with his insurance company and he is currently paying off a $7000 bill.  As a postal employee he thought he had good insurance.
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« Reply #11 on: September 03, 2009, 07:28:34 PM »
Several years ago while on a deer hunting trip to New Mexico my son broke his arm riding a trail bike, it started swelling and turned almost black immediately.  We were about 12-15 miles from the nearest paved road and then about 20 miles to Santa Rosa.  I dropped the cabover camper off my truck and we headed out to the hospital arriving there at about 10:30pm on a Saturday night.  We took him through the emergency entrance, there was no one there but there was a big red button with a sign that read for emergency.  I rang the bell and a nurse came in, she could not speak but a few words of english and most of that was "Oh, my God, oh, My God! She left for a few minutes then came back and directed us to the X-ray room where she told us."you stay, you stay"  We sat and waited, after a while a young man came in, I found out he was the doctor, but he didn't speak much english either. When the x-ray tech came in I talked to her and she acted as an interpeter between the doctor, my son and I.  His arm was broke bad, both bones in two places.  We were there for about four hours before they got a cast on it.  They gave him something for pain and I drove him to Clovis, NM, woke my wife then turned around and headed back to pickup my camper and bikes.  While I was gone my son woke up and was in really bad pain, my wife had to take him to the emergency room at Cannon AFB hospital.  The doctor there had to cut the cast due to swelling, but x-rayed the break again and saaid the doctor did a wonderful job of getting the bones back in place.  I don't know for a fact, but I would be willing to bet the doctor that set the arm was raised, schooled, and possibly interned in Mexico.

Like Siskiyou said, rural America does not have the best or most modern health care facilities, when you get off the beaten path in places such as Terlingua, TX a doctor can't be found.  If there is an emergency you may be up the creek with out a paddle.

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Re: Mexico as replacement for US health care
« Reply #12 on: September 04, 2009, 03:33:35 AM »
Sign me up sounds good I can't get good health insurance here.

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« Reply #13 on: September 04, 2009, 08:01:51 AM »
What makes you think that the migrant workers get free health care here in the USA. Most of the ones that I know their employers are too cheap to pay for medical insurance and the workers have to pay cash for all of their local treatments. Nothing is free!

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« Reply #14 on: September 04, 2009, 10:11:16 AM »
What makes you think that the migrant workers get free health care here in the USA. Most of the ones that I know their employers are too cheap to pay for medical insurance and the workers have to pay cash for all of their local treatments. Nothing is free!

Medicade for low income families is open to immigrants wether legal or not!  They even offer a spanish version of the application!
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« Reply #15 on: September 04, 2009, 12:06:52 PM »
Pa-Joe.  What rock you been hiding under? 

 Pa-Joe.  What rock you been hiding under? 

Illegals get free medical by waiting until after 5PM and going to a hospital emergency room.  The hospitals are obligated to see them with or without insurance/funds.  It's a big joke here in Texas, if you are going to have an accident do it before 5PM, otherwise you may not be seen.

I know of an incident that occurred several years ago that resulted in the death of a friends wife.  She had a heart attack while returning to Texas from Kaliforina after visiting her grand children.  She didn't know it was a heart attack, thought it might have been something she ate, but the pain got so bad they stopped in a hospital emergency room in Tucson, AZ.  They couldn’t see her because they were treating a truck load of illegals that had been involved in an accident.  They drove on and finally got her admitted to a hospital in Las Cruces, NM where she died.  According to her husband, if she had been admitted to the Tucson hospital and given a blood thinner she would be alive today.  A classic example of a big city hospital overrun with illegals getting free medical care is Highland Hospital in Dallas, TX.  The free medical care to illegals cost them millions each year.

You can bet your “bippy” they know how to work the system and do a great job of it.  If they ain’t there yet, they will be coming to a hospital near you very soon. :o :o :o

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« Reply #16 on: September 04, 2009, 12:21:49 PM »
What makes you think that the migrant workers get free health care here in the USA. Most of the ones that I know their employers are too cheap to pay for medical insurance and the workers have to pay cash for all of their local treatments. Nothing is free!

No public hospital can turn them away. That is free.
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« Reply #17 on: September 05, 2009, 03:38:17 AM »
What makes you think that the migrant workers get free health care here in the USA. Most of the ones that I know their employers are too cheap to pay for medical insurance and the workers have to pay cash for all of their local treatments. Nothing is free!

No public hospital can turn them away. That is free.
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There are a few scenarios where they can turn them away.  One is they are swamped with customers and tell you to go somewhere else.

So much for free HC at the emergencey room.  All above is one reason(s) we need HC reform and pronto.....unless you end up in an ER waiting line. 


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« Reply #18 on: September 05, 2009, 04:17:16 AM »
What makes you think that the migrant workers get free health care here in the USA. Most of the ones that I know their employers are too cheap to pay for medical insurance and the workers have to pay cash for all of their local treatments. Nothing is free!

No public hospital can turn them away. That is free.
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There are a few scenarios where they can turn them away.  One is they are swamped with customers and tell you to go somewhere else.

So much for free HC at the emergencey room.  All above is one reason(s) we need HC reform and pronto.....unless you end up in an ER waiting line. 


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Your position is exactly why we don't need HC refrom as you define it. Free health care for anyone is wellfare and free health care for non-citizens is rediculous. Is this a free country based on our constituion or just a wellfare state?
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« Reply #19 on: September 05, 2009, 05:14:41 AM »
Didn't the Us Supreme court rule that ILLegals have the right to public health care and schools?

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« Reply #20 on: September 05, 2009, 05:28:15 AM »
Didn't the Us Supreme court rule that ILLegals have the right to public health care and schools?

Yes, our bannana republic's kangaroo court came to that illegal judgment.
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« Reply #21 on: September 05, 2009, 05:29:54 AM »
What makes you think that the migrant workers get free health care here in the USA. Most of the ones that I know their employers are too cheap to pay for medical insurance and the workers have to pay cash for all of their local treatments. Nothing is free!

No public hospital can turn them away. That is free.
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There are a few scenarios where they can turn them away.  One is they are swamped with customers and tell you to go somewhere else.

So much for free HC at the emergencey room.  All above is one reason(s) we need HC reform and pronto.....unless you end up in an ER waiting line. 


..TM7

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Your position is exactly why we don't need HC refrom as you define it. Free health care for anyone is wellfare and free health care for non-citizens is rediculous. Is this a free country based on our constituion or just a wellfare state?
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Nothing is for free in America. ..TM7

Yes it will for low lifes who contribute nothing to this country. Seems to be the trend.
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« Reply #22 on: September 05, 2009, 07:04:39 AM »
Didn't the Us Supreme court rule that ILLegals have the right to public health care and schools?

Yes, our bannana republic's kangaroo court came to that illegal judgment.
Then if that's the case make them all legal so they can pay taxes. I don't agree with the court on the ILLegals.

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« Reply #23 on: September 05, 2009, 09:53:17 AM »
Didn't the Us Supreme court rule that ILLegals have the right to public health care and schools?

Yes, our bannana republic's kangaroo court came to that illegal judgment.
Then if that's the case make them all legal so they can pay taxes. I don't agree with the court on the ILLegals.

They came here illegally and they are by definition criminals. Why should they get to the front of the line and get rewarded for their illegal activities? Other people play by the rules and wait their turn to become a legal citizen, legally.

They are criminals and should be deported, not rewarded.

Only a liberal could conclude that citizenship is the solution, for those who openly and willingly brake the citizenship process. No wonder our country has become a 3rd rate nation with a kangaroo supreme court and a congress & white house hell bent on ignoring the constitution. You people are going to cause wide spread bloodshed in this country some day. That day is likely not far away. Real Americans will eventually stand up for OUR country and OUR constitution which is the law of this land. That is where my loyalty is, not with any politician or their illegal & unconstitutional laws & process. 

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« Reply #24 on: September 06, 2009, 05:19:32 AM »
You wouldn't be jonesing for a race war, now...?  Somehow I think your classic view of what the US is or was theoretically..isn't what it is today in reality,( nor what it was ever intended to be actually post Constitution). 

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There's no race associated with the discussion about illegal aliens. This is about legal verus illegal. All illegals should be deported regardless of race.In fact, the race issue on this is beiong exploited by the Liberlas as they are the ones professing that latino illegals should be treated superior to other illegals. The Liberlas have already started the race war.

I don't have any "classic" view of the constitution. Our politicians and military still today take an oath to uphold THE constituion. We only have one federal constituion and its not the "classic version", Its the only version.
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« Reply #25 on: September 06, 2009, 07:34:33 AM »
Yes, those who start injecting race, well we know where they stand.
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