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What Else Will This Man Do?
« on: September 06, 2009, 03:13:46 PM »
What the hell is this son of a female dog doing to this country?  Enough is enough! >:( >:( >:(

WHAT ELSE WILL THIS MAN DO!!
Saturday, September 05, 2009

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WorldNetDaily Exclusive
What the ... ? White House to fly Red Chinese flag
People's Republic marking anniversary at White House

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Posted: September 04, 2009
8:19 pm Eastern


By Bob Unruh

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WorldNetDaily
 
The administration of President Barack Obama, whose official blogger while Obama was a candidate came under attack for hanging a Communist Party flag in his Harvard apartment, apparently has given permission to raise the emblem of Communist China over the south lawn of the White House.
The plan, reported by several English-language Chinese media outlets, has raised concern among those who are working to guard the United States from outside influences that could be threats.
According to the Global Times English-language edition, the national flag of the communist People's Republic of China on Sept. 20 will be raised for the first time on the White House's south lawn – a secured area seldom available for public events – in recognition of the Chinese anniversary.
"The ceremony has gotten official approval," Xiao Shuigen, secretary of the Union of Chinese American Professional Organizations, told the Times.
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"It was always my dream to raise a Chinese flag in the center of Washington, D.C.," Chen Ronghua, chief of the U.S.-Fujian Association, told the newspaper. "This year, my motherland's 60th birthday, is the perfect time for it."
According to China Daily, Chinese associations in the United States applied to have a ceremony.
Such emblems were an issue during Obama's presidential campaign, when a Houston Fox TV affiliate captured images of a volunteer in an Obama campaign office working in front of a flag featuring the image of Che Guevara, the South American revolutionary who became Fidel Castro's executioner after the communist takeover in Cuba.
At that time, the Obama campaign issued a statement calling the flag "inappropriate" and noting that the office where it was displayed was funded by "volunteers" and was not the official campaign headquarters.
However, it was Sam Graham-Felsen, a journalist-on-leave from The Nation, who joined Obama for America in 2007 and worked as the official blogger. He, according to a 2003 article in the Harvard Crimson, adorned one corner of his shared student apartment with "a Communist Party flag ... bought on their trip to Russia the summer after sophomore year."
The proposed event at the White House was condemned on the forums page on Fox News commentator Sean Hannity's website.
"People could understand if there was a Chinese visitor at the White House and the Red flag was placed on the stage behind the speakers, but to hoist the commie pinko flag in 'honor' of the founding of the People's Republic of China is absurd," the forum participant said. "This only goes to prove the Obama administration is out-of-touch with the American people."
William Gheen, chief of Americans for Legal Immigration, the pre-eminent organization battling against illegal immigration, said it's the message that is sent to the world that will be significant.
"Our concern is that sovereign wealth funds, like the Chinese, now control the executive branch more than the American people," he said. "China is not our friend. China is our enemy. Our enemy is coming and raising their own flag in a type of proclamation.
"I expect the Chinese media will make a big thing of it," he said, saying something like, "'Look how strong and powerful China is, raising our flag on the White House.'"
He said it conveys the same message as if Old Glory would be raised on the property of the Kremlin.
Gheen said the issue becomes clear "why the new water stations at illegal alien crossings into the United States have instructions in English, Spanish and Mandarin Chinese."
At the Red County blog, the author said, "Celebrating Americans of Chinese descent is one thing. Celebrating Communism is another. Now our president will hoist the Communist flag over the White House. How fitting and in sync with his political belief system."
A spokesman for the American Legion told WND that if the proper protocols are followed, there should be no issue with the actual display of a Chinese flag, especially since diplomatic visits routinely include the display of foreign flags.
But those with obviously U.S. leanings on the Global Times forum page were outraged.

"Another public short coming and failure by the Obama administration."


"UNBELIEVABLE!"


"It can now be official – leave the flag there."


"So let me get this straight – the Chinese are going to celebrate the founding of their country on the south lawn of the White House! Did we celebrate the 4th of July in Beijing in front of their Leader's House? What other proof do you need that Obama is the Manchurian Candidate."


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Re: What Else Will This Man Do?
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2009, 04:10:32 PM »
It is called CONDITIONING! A little at a time, he'll do these things and wear the American people down into their usual apathetic state level. No one is going to do a damn thing to stop him. There will be some hootin and hollering, but after awhile, everyone will turn their TV back to the football game, or go get in their bass boat and let him finish dismantling the economy, and the government. We already are the laughing stock of the world but, were getting there before he took office. Bush had also set too big an agenda to get his oil producing buddies what he had promised, and not many were taking him serious anymore either.
This guy is not a idiot, he has an agenda, and there are no patriots in D.C. anymore. Folks like McCain talk the talk, but are just as sold out as the rest.
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« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2009, 04:33:52 PM »
Dee.  You think we can get a posse of “good ole boys” from Texas to go up there and straighten things out?  I guess we could take a few of them ole boys from other states if they wanat to help. ::)

You are right about people becoming complicit and turning their backs while he turns this nation into a totally socialist pit.  I think he is loosing popularity fast, but notm quick enough to help keep the train on the tracks.

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« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2009, 05:49:07 PM »
Dee, I think you're right. There are no REAL patriots in DC. What else will he do?  Well......
Make health insurance MANDATORY, Enter your home without a warrant and force you to take "shots" or remove you to a compound, exercise total control over the media, shutdown the internet when he wants, CZAR control everything bypassing congress, tell you how much money you are allowed to make and dictate the size of your bonus if any, take your guns, design and control ALL ammunition with powder that expires after 2 years, remove currency from circulation, make ALL transactions recordable, purchase items according to your needs, give your daughter an abortion, fit you with a RFD, educate your kids his way.....
Etc. Etc. Coming to a town near you.  I gotta stop..... getting chest pains again.

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Re: What Else Will This Man Do?
« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2009, 04:48:38 AM »
If they raise a foreign flag at the Whitehouse it would be like an invasion and the perfect time for patriots to attack and take this country back from those who would destroy the Republic. All three branches of our government are infested with traitors and enemies of Liberty , the Constitution  and the Republic. It is time to politely ask them once to step down and leave this country. Or perhaps they would like a warm climate and reunion with their hero Ted.

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« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2009, 04:58:31 AM »
The executive branch of our government is overrun with communists. The leadership in congress are at minimum socialists if not communist if you look at idiots like Pelosi & Reid. The rest of congress are mostly a bunch of cow-towing politicians who will do anything to get reelected including violating the constitution. I'm not surprised one bit if the Chinese red flag flies over the White House south lawn. In fact, I would not be surprised if this administration won't try and push for a new official holiday based on one of the significant communist historical milestones. 
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« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2009, 05:21:59 AM »
I thought you guys supported freedom of speech.  :o I hope he keeps this stuff up to wake up the dumb white people in this country.

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« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2009, 05:30:40 AM »
I thought you guys supported freedom of speech.  :o I hope he keeps this stuff up to wake up the dumb white people in this country.

Are you saying that smart black people fly the Chinese Red Flag and that somehow this is to be interpreted as just an act of Freedom of speech?
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Re: What Else Will This Man Do?
« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2009, 05:48:33 AM »
By the way, there is a very real possibility that this is being made out to be more than it is by the Chinese - see http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/04/white-house-debunks-reports-fly-chinas-flag-south-lawn/

If the FOX report is accurate, having a foreign group raise a flag on the Ellipse (completely different location than the White House lawn) is not uncommon, and has nothing to do with the President.

And even if the flag was to be raised on the White House lawn, before you get too outraged remember that raising the flag there only signifies an "official" or "state" visit by a foreign head of state, nothing more - GWB raised the Chinese flag there in '06 for an official visit by their president.

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Re: What Else Will This Man Do?
« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2009, 08:03:00 AM »
I thought you guys supported freedom of speech.  :o I hope he keeps this stuff up to wake up the dumb white people in this country.

Are you saying that smart black people fly the Chinese Red Flag and that somehow this is to be interpreted as just an act of Freedom of speech?
You can't have it both ways either this country stands for freedom or it doesn't. Are you saying he could of became president without the white vote?

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« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2009, 08:08:19 AM »
By the way, there is a very real possibility that this is being made out to be more than it is by the Chinese - see http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/04/white-house-debunks-reports-fly-chinas-flag-south-lawn/

If the FOX report is accurate, having a foreign group raise a flag on the Ellipse (completely different location than the White House lawn) is not uncommon, and has nothing to do with the President.

And even if the flag was to be raised on the White House lawn, before you get too outraged remember that raising the flag there only signifies an "official" or "state" visit by a foreign head of state, nothing more - GWB raised the Chinese flag there in '06 for an official visit by their president.

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« Reply #11 on: September 07, 2009, 08:18:32 AM »
I thought you guys supported freedom of speech.  :o I hope he keeps this stuff up to wake up the dumb white people in this country.

Are you saying that smart black people fly the Chinese Red Flag and that somehow this is to be interpreted as just an act of Freedom of speech?
You can't have it both ways either this country stands for freedom or it doesn't. Are you saying he could of became president without the white vote?

How about answering my questions....

No I'm not saying that. I think stupid people of all races voted for this rediculous president including stupid whites. But what does any of this have to do with freedom of speech and flying the Chinese flag? Maybe thats were your losing me in this exchange.
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« Reply #12 on: September 07, 2009, 09:10:23 AM »
But what does any of this have to do with freedom of speech and flying the Chinese flag? Maybe thats were your losing me in this exchange.

It of course has nothing to do with freedom of speech...somehow something got way sidetracked here. 

I can't even figure out how part of our constitution even got into the conversation of the Chinese raising a flag here.... ??? 
Must have been a mistake.  Speaking of mistakes, and of people of all races voting for this president....a whole heap of them are now admiting they made a huge mistake, and a whole heap more are pretty embarrassed about it....I know kind of how that feels myself after getting duped by president Bush. 

Anyways...let's try to leave the consitution out of the Chinese raising a flag here....doesn't make enough sense to even bring it up. 
Does not even make sense to have red China celebrate much of anything here in the name of freedom, unless they celebrate our leaders in
Washington selling us out to China, now that may be cause for celebration by the Chinese. 

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« Reply #13 on: September 07, 2009, 11:39:16 AM »
But what does any of this have to do with freedom of speech and flying the Chinese flag? Maybe thats were your losing me in this exchange.

Speaking of mistakes, and of people of all races voting for this president....a whole heap of them are now admiting they made a huge mistake, and a whole heap more are pretty embarrassed about it....

I live in liberal Kalifornia and even around people are getting sick of this president. I've seen so many people driving around with the following written with a white grease pensil on the rear windshield of their cars & trucks:

"One Big Astronomical Mistake America. Spend, Spend Spend so they can Tax Tax Tax so they can Control Control Control YOU"

I've seen this and similar versions all over the place. Not to mention the tea party rallies and protests. I was at one in Santa Clara (heart of the Silicon valley) and there well over 1,000 people there.

I know some folks here who I know voted for him and are even mildly liberal and some who are very liberal. They are embarrased and regret voting for him. He's putting the nails in his own political coffin.
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« Reply #14 on: September 07, 2009, 11:53:26 AM »
Gwb is a republican. That makes it alright.  :P

I didn't say that.  I said he raised the Chinese flag on the White House lawn in '06 for an official visit by their president.  That is protocol, nothing more, nothing less.  If Obama hosts their president for an official or state visit, then, by protocol, he should do the same. 

Where I would disagree with EITHER is if they raised the Chinese flag over the White House lawn for any other reason that did not follow established protocol - for instance, if as in the original post, their flag was to be raised over the White House lawn for the 60th anniversary.

Read carefully, then respond, and please don't put words in my mouth.

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« Reply #15 on: September 07, 2009, 12:00:56 PM »
Gwb is a republican. That makes it alright.  :P

I didn't say that.  I said he raised the Chinese flag on the White House lawn in '06 for an official visit by their president.  That is protocol, nothing more, nothing less.  If Obama hosts their president for an official or state visit, then, by protocol, he should do the same. 

Where I would disagree with EITHER is if they raised the Chinese flag over the White House lawn for any other reason that did not follow established protocol - for instance, if as in the original post, their flag was to be raised over the White House lawn for the 60th anniversary.

Read carefully, then respond, and please don't put words in my mouth.

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« Reply #16 on: September 07, 2009, 12:54:03 PM »
Boy your sensitive !

Call it sensitive if you like, but I won't stand by and let someone twist what I said into something I didn't.

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« Reply #17 on: September 07, 2009, 03:56:44 PM »
Well I read what you said and you just sound like another Obama defender, making excuses.
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« Reply #18 on: September 08, 2009, 03:09:26 PM »
Well I read what you said and you just sound like another Obama defender, making excuses.

Show me one thing I said that was wrong, and if true, I'm man enough to admit it.  But I am far from an Obama supporter or defender.  My points are intended to try to get folks to look at the situations from a factual standpoint, to oppose things they don't agree with by using researched and well-thought-out rationale, rather than to blindly pass along something they have heard or read without the intellectual honesty to check it out on their own to make sure it is true.

I oppose almost everything Obama and his ilk stand for.  But I try to do so based on convictions I have established for myself, based on research I have done on my own, and with thought and reason, not blind faith in someone else.  Isn't that part of what we accuse Obama's supporters of?  Blindly following him because of what or who he is and how he sounds, not on facts or substance?

Come on people, wake up!  Don't sound like a bunch of ignorant hicks because you parrot something thrown out there as bait for the unthinking!  You make yourselves easy targets when you do - and don't make the excuse that you don't have time, that's nothing but a cop-out.  Before you hit "post" or "send" or "forward" to your group of like-minded friends and acquaintances, spend a few minutes to search Google or Yahoo or Bing, look it up on Snopes or use one of the other debunking sites out there.

If you don't, you are no better than the sheeple that voted for Obama.

I'm just sayin'.

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