Author Topic: Rem,ember; Israel attacked the "Liberty" 40 years ago... (Read 782 times)

ironglow · « **on:** September 07, 2009, 05:19:42 PM »

But we'll just ignore these specimens from the "religion of peace"..

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/6153243/Airline-terror-trial-The-bomb-plot-to-kill-10000-people.html

torpedoman · « **Reply #1 on:** September 07, 2009, 05:38:50 PM »

I want to know why the air cover was recalled and by who? Someone in the U.S. government left our men under fire by people trying to sink a U.S. flagged ship and no one has been held accountable yet.

alsaqr · « **Reply #2 on:** September 08, 2009, 01:05:48 AM »

Israel will never be held accountable for anything so long as the US continues to make excuses for Israeli atrocities.

ironglow · « **Reply #3 on:** September 08, 2009, 04:54:47 AM »

Again;
Some folks keep looking back to what our security agencies called a mistake 40 years ago, while ignoring atrocities currently taking place that have claimed millions of lives, including thousands of our fellow Americans.

Remarkable "compartmentalizing"..

A little refresher,in case one is not listening.. http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/index.html#Attacks

Scroll down to catch the 2,000 odd acts of terrorism in just the past 2 months.

ms · « **Reply #4 on:** September 08, 2009, 06:42:50 AM »

Tm7 someone will have to tell billy that the Jews did it.

beerbelly · « **Reply #5 on:** September 08, 2009, 06:50:28 AM »

The fact that the Muslims have killed our people dose not excuse the Israelis from doing it. They are just as bad as the Muslims! The world would be a better place if both were wiped from the face of it.
Beerbelly

ironglow · « **Reply #6 on:** September 08, 2009, 08:20:35 AM »

beer;
During the first Gulf war, some of our airplanes mistakenly fired upon a Canadian APC, killing 3 or 4 soldiers (friendly fire)..During the conflict in Bosnia, some of our planes destroyed the Chinese embassy (mistaken target), killing numerous noncombatants.should we be "wiped off the map" also ?
Surely you can ascertain the difference between frtiendly fire, or a mistaken attack...and a well planned and eagerly executed, deliberate attack...done 13,000 times over just since 9/11/01 alone, say nothing of digging up hate from 40 years ago.

beerbelly · « **Reply #7 on:** September 08, 2009, 09:33:07 AM »

Surely you can ascertain the difference between frtiendly fire, or a mistaken attack...and a well planned and eagerly executed, deliberate attack

Yes I sure can, and the attack on the USS Liberty was a planed well executed attack. This was no mistake! Read what the guys on the USS Liberty have said. They plainly state that there is no way this was a mistake.
Beerbelly

Casull · « **Reply #8 on:** September 08, 2009, 01:54:03 PM »

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The USS liberty was as blatant an attack that ever was....I'll take the accounts of sailors on that ship first over any coverup reports. But Zionist have an affinity for not only attacking their financial supporting allies; but for actually attacking their own brethern (although not of Euro-Khazarian extraction, but real semites). In 1940 the blew up the immigrant ship Patria of the coast of palestine which containing 1,900 unwanted semitic jews drowning about 300. Then in 1942 they blew up the Stromanear off the coast of Turkey killing all 770 jews on board.

Then there was the first airliner hyjacking ever...when in 1954 zionists hyjacked a Syrian airliner. The first car bomb was divided by Irgun terrorist ostensiblely to assassinate UN peaxce personel...peace is a no no. Then another first was the first truck bomb that blew up the King David Hotel killing 200 British personel;;;not to mention the really famous Lavon Affair which I have posted info on in the Truth, Lies, and Conspiracies forum; and receiving no replies or comments curiously.

tm, I see you're a fan of Amir Meshkin. Well, at least you like to plagarize him. However, when you plagarize someone, you should at least look to see if he has his "facts" straight. As far as the first hijacking, it was on 2-21-1931 in Peru (not committed by Jews). The first airliner hijacking was in 1948. The second was in 1949. The third was in 1952. As for the ship Patria, the bomber was attempting to disable the ship to keep the semitic jews from being deported to Trinidad (unless you believe his confession to the bombing, but not his confession to the reasoning behind it). After finding these two items to be so off the mark, I didn't bother checking the rest of his ranting.

Swampman · « **Reply #9 on:** September 08, 2009, 02:42:41 PM »

How long will this myth persist? It was an accident plain and simple.

Swampman · « **Reply #10 on:** September 08, 2009, 02:43:47 PM »

Quote from: alsaqr on September 08, 2009, 01:05:48 AM

Israel will never be held accountable for anything so long as the US continues to make excuses for Israeli atrocities.

This is crap!

ironglow · « **Reply #11 on:** September 08, 2009, 02:59:30 PM »

I guess each will have to decide if we will believe some anti-semitic blogger or these folks;

http://www.nsa.gov/applications/search/index.cfm?q=Uss%20Liberty%20incident

torpedoman · « **Reply #12 on:** September 08, 2009, 03:14:35 PM »

Quote from: Swampman on September 08, 2009, 02:42:41 PM

How long will this myth persist? It was an accident plain and simple.

Guess you had to be there i was in suda bay Crete (less than 60 miles away)in the communications room of the U.S.S.Tidewater listing to the radio traffic during that attack They were flying the US flag and were real easy to I.D. the carrier launched air cover and it was recalled before it could get there. No myth and No accident the liberty was a research ship (read communications spy ship)same as the pueblo (seized by the N. Koreans)

ironglow · « **Reply #13 on:** September 08, 2009, 03:18:21 PM »

Of little import when compared to the 13K terrorist attacks since 9/11.. TM & Beer, just to be fair, please admit that even if remotely this was an intentional attack upon a US ship, it is the Muslim fanatics that have made a multitude more attacks and killed thousands more Americans. Can we agree on that ? If not, why not ?

BTW: Here's how some obviously view Israel on THEIR scale of justice...

rio grande · « **Reply #14 on:** September 08, 2009, 03:37:00 PM »

Quote from: ironglow on September 08, 2009, 03:18:21 PM

Of little import when compared to the 13K terrorist attacks since 9/11.. TM & Beer, just to be fair, please admit that even if remotely this was an intentional attack upon a US ship, it is the Muslim fanatics that have made a multitude more attacks and killed thousands more Americans. Can we agree on that ? If not, why not ?

BTW: Here's how some obviously view Israel on THEIR scale of justice...

"...'Liberty,' which was flying a large American flag. At 1400 hrs, waves of low-flying Israeli Mystere and Mirage-III fighter-bombers repeatedly attacked the American vessel with rockets, napalm, and cannon. The air attacks lasted 20 minutes, concentrating on the ship's electronic antennas and dishes. The 'Liberty' was left afire, listing sharply. Eight of her crew lay dead, a hundred seriously wounded, including the captain, Commander William McGonagle.

At 1424 hrs, three Israeli torpedo boats attacked, raking the burning 'Liberty' with 20mm and 40mm shells. At 1431hrs an Israeli torpedo hit the 'Liberty' midship, precisely where the signals intelligence systems were located. Twenty-five more Americans died."

http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig/margolis12.html

'remotely'? I don't think so.

beerbelly · « **Reply #15 on:** September 08, 2009, 04:10:36 PM »

Of little import

I wonder if one of those dead and dying sailors were your father, son. brother, you would still think it of little import!
Have the Moslems killed more of us than the Israelis? YES! But that dose not excuse the Israelis. I have no use for either. As long as there is one arab and one Israeli they will fight and figure some way to drag us into it.
Beerbelly

alsaqr · « **Reply #16 on:** September 08, 2009, 05:02:16 PM »

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Of little import

I wonder if one of those dead and dying sailors were your father, son. brother, you would still think it of little import!

+1

Graybeard · « **Reply #17 on:** September 08, 2009, 05:07:09 PM »

They were most likely performing a false flag attack at the request of the very highest levels of US Government at the time. I'm sure there was an ulterior motive behind it with the plan being to blame whatever perceived enemy we wanted to destroy at the time and it went awry in that some survived which no doubt blew the real plan clean out of the water.

Even that long ago the folks running our government WERE NOT on our side.

torpedoman · « **Reply #18 on:** September 08, 2009, 05:22:49 PM »

greybeard makes a valid point

Casull · « **Reply #19 on:** September 09, 2009, 05:42:42 AM »

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Any of the facts I might cite are researched from various sources since I wasn't there

LOL. You cut and pasted Meshkin's article (without giving him credit of course).

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BTW, I see the wiki-source for your air hyjacking history which you plagiarize, err cite

It's not plagiarizing to use dates and facts, if you write your own words.

ironglow · « **Reply #20 on:** September 09, 2009, 03:23:29 PM »

THe conspiracy experts are always crying about "false flag" operations. Is it possible that the Israelis believed that ship to be an Arab vessle, falsely flying an American flag ?

Of course this suggestion will fall on deaf ears..most conspiracy cravers seem to believe that the US or Israel can never do right, while continualy offering excuses for terrorist acts (even if we give them the liberty), committed in a numerical ratio of about 20,000 vs 1...

..Must take a lot of "living in denial"..

So, let's do this; suppose for the sake of debate..we say "yes, the Israelis did knowingly attack the Liberty"...the USS Cole rather balances that out....
Now let's devote as much time discussing the tens of thousands of attacks by the Islamic fanatics. If you cannot do that you have a real, beyond rational... hate problem..