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The 338 RUM Shooting Actubond bullets
« on: September 09, 2009, 02:48:43 AM »
With my 338 RUM I can shoot the actubond 225gr at 3178 fps. I figure not bad. I would suppose I could take down a Moose or a grizzle bear. I've been to Africa and to Canada three times. Its always nice to dream a little about where to go next. Any coments. Ideas.

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Re: The 338 RUM Shooting Actubond bullets
« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2009, 01:48:25 PM »
I had good luck with the 225 accubonds out of the 338 RUM too.  Was getting 3140fps out of retumbo.   Great bullet and should be up to handle any animal in north america.  They do knock the snott out of a moose!

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Re: The 338 RUM Shooting Actubond bullets
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2009, 02:04:19 AM »
I guess that there isn't that manny 338 RUM users out there.

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Re: The 338 RUM Shooting Actubond bullets
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2009, 11:04:12 AM »
I havn't shot anything other than 250gr. Hornady interlocks out of mine, but am thinking of playing with some 225s for next year.  I just can't for sure talk myself into changing something that works so well.  My gun will shot about 3/4 inch groups with the 250s infront of 99.8grs of retumbo and a federal match primer.  It kills elk like a mac truck.

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Re: The 338 RUM Shooting Actubond bullets
« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2009, 02:04:00 AM »
I shoot the 225 interbond. Every thing Iv'e shot dies. Frome deer,elk,moos or buffalow one shot is all it takes!

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Re: The 338 RUM Shooting Actubond bullets
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2009, 10:43:42 AM »
Did you use the Interbond on all those animals?

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Re: The 338 RUM Shooting Actubond bullets
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2009, 02:10:26 AM »
I've got some Actubond 250gr bullets on order. I will have to try them out and see how fast they go.

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Re: The 338 RUM Shooting Actubond bullets
« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2009, 02:23:33 AM »
I don’t have a 338 RUM, but I have a 338-06 A-Square in a Weatherby Mark V Ultra Lightweight rifle with a Leupold VX-III 3.5-10x40mm scope.   Shoots like a laser beam with Winchester/Nosler 200 grain ballistic tips, IMR-4320, 30-06 Springfield once fired brass and Winchester large rifle primers which allowed me to easily achieve 1/2 MOA.

I also have Nosler 180 grain Accubonds, Nosler 210 grain Partitions, Hornady 225 grain Interlock Spire Points & Speer 225 grain boat tails to try.

I always wanted a 338 caliber rifle, but I didn’t want a belted magnum case or anything longer than the 30-06 Springfield case.  The 338-06 A-Square was the wise choice for me and has proven to be an excellent cartridge for anything in North America with the right bullet at an ethical range.

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Re: The 338 RUM Shooting Actubond bullets
« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2009, 01:28:57 AM »
Well I got those 250gr Actubond bullets and loaded 20 of them. May be Monday I'll get to the range and find out how fast they go.
Deer season with a Muzzel loader Is in right now.

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Re: The 338 RUM Shooting Actubond bullets
« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2009, 04:02:36 AM »
Well I got it done, Those 250gr bullets go 3067 FPS. That is a big bear round. Shot at up to 200yds or farther.

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Re: The 338 RUM Shooting Actubond bullets
« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2009, 06:03:31 PM »
I don't have a .338-RUM but do have a wildcat in the .338/300Ultra Mag! It holds about 5 more grains of powder and kicks like a Missouri Mule from the bench. I taken it up as high as 3230fps with 225 grain Nosler Accubond bullets. However, it shoots nice tight goups at 100 yds while going 3155fps. It is not picky on what I feed it as far as bullet weights are concearned.

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Re: The 338 RUM Shooting Actubond bullets
« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2009, 05:03:54 AM »
 :D Tonk, what action is your 338-300Ultra made on???? I haven't shot my .340 across the crony, but have loaded 225 noslers with IMR 4350, I think my shooting pal checked the speed, but I have just used the load on elk, deer, and coyotes. A bigger .338 interests me... ;)

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Re: The 338 RUM Shooting Actubond bullets
« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2009, 07:09:45 PM »
Wyo-Coyote-Hunter......This rifle has a stainless fluted barrel by Lilja 26 inches and the action is stainless also, a model 70 Winchester as matter of fact. Yeah, it ain't a Remmy but it still can shoot small little groups on paper, to the tune of .668 MOA @ 100 yards. I got me one of them thar Bushnell 3200 Elite scopes with turrets and a Mil-Dot reticule in 5 x 15 power. It makes for a real nice down range shootin piece you betcha!

Ya know, those Winchester's aren't suppose to be very accurate, least that what a lot of folks have told me since I was knee high to a beagle pup but I once met a thin statured Leatherneck Sgt., a real down home type from the South he was and dog gone ifin he didn't use the same type of Winchester action on his 30-06 rifle too.

I declare, now that man could knock an apple off a fence post at 600 yards!  In the "rice paddy war" it werent no worry at tall, for that Sgt. of the South, to hit the enemy out there at 900 yards or better. Now that Ole Boys name was Carlos Hathcock and folks just called him Gunny for short. It just don't get any better than a model 70 Winchester!!!

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Re: The 338 RUM Shooting Actubond bullets
« Reply #13 on: October 14, 2009, 04:00:31 AM »
 :D tonk, while you like the model 70, I am for the 700. But when I started fooling seriously with rifles and had the $ to do it, the 70 had just turned to crap.... :-\ :'( When I was looking at actions and rifles to buy, I questioned all the shooters in my area, at that time it was a hot bed of long range riflemen. While most were old model 70 men, all said the new model 70 of the post 64 years was junk. They all recommended the 700. So I started with it and just stuck with it.  The guy who had the most influence on me was a real die hard model 70 man and an old Camp Perry shooter.  He had loads of experience so when he spoke I listened. At that time a Rem. could be had for about 135 bucks. The old 70 actions and rifles had shot up to $500+ over night, so the choice was simple. Now, I am not sure. I have not had a model 70 for many years.   ;D :D

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Re: The 338 RUM Shooting Actubond bullets
« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2009, 06:17:49 AM »
Well I got it done, Those 250gr bullets go 3067 FPS. That is a big bear round. Shot at up to 200yds or farther.

What is your load if I may ask?

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Re: The 338 RUM Shooting Actubond bullets
« Reply #15 on: November 01, 2009, 03:12:47 AM »
I use 95gr of RL25 Its a hot load. I got the load from Steves Loads. I wouldn't recomend it to anybody. It sure sends those Actubond bullets down the road.

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Re: The 338 RUM Shooting Actubond bullets
« Reply #16 on: November 21, 2009, 03:22:02 AM »
My 338 RUM has been bedded  thats why  i'm not afrade to shoot those fast loads.

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Re: The 338 RUM Shooting Actubond bullets
« Reply #17 on: November 21, 2009, 03:53:02 AM »
I use 95gr of RL25 Its a hot load. I got the load from Steves Loads. I wouldn't recomend it to anybody. It sure sends those Actubond bullets down the road.

According to Alliant, that’s the max load for the 338 RUM, shouldn’t be a problem for anyone if you work up loads as usual.  They show 2,915 FPS out of a 24” barrel of course actual results will vary.  You are getting 3067 FPS, maybe measured at warmer temperatures or your chronograph might be closer to the muzzle then Alliant’s, who knows.

http://www.alliantpowder.com/reloaders/recipedetail.aspx?gtypeid=2&weight=250&shellid=94&bulletid=150

REDUCE RIFLE CHARGE WEIGHTS BY 10% TO ESTABLISH A STARTING LOAD.

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Re: The 338 RUM Shooting Actubond bullets
« Reply #18 on: November 22, 2009, 03:21:20 AM »
Yoper77 Thats good info. I'm right there My shells show no marking on them. I also have a 26" barrel

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Re: The 338 RUM Shooting Actubond bullets
« Reply #19 on: December 03, 2009, 04:14:01 PM »
Well I got it done, Those 250gr bullets go 3067 FPS. That is a big bear round. Shot at up to 200yds or farther.

jro45

If I may ask, what is your load?

I have been loading 98.6 grs Retumbo with the 250 gr AB for a MV of 2950 fps and sub .5".

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Re: The 338 RUM Shooting Actubond bullets
« Reply #20 on: December 04, 2009, 01:49:42 AM »
I shoot 2 different 338. 338-300 ultra and a 338rum shortend to fit a ruger action. the former shoots 225 3025 fps. I shot a cow at 387yrds this year walking right at me. The 225 accubond droped her like a stone! I never recoverd the bullet.  the bull I shot was on the move to a realy steep ugly canyon at about 250yrs, 20yrds frome the edge I shot hime and he just nose dived. Thats about the 30 elk we have killed with these big 338 and we have never chased a single one. I like sholder shots and the big 33 will brake both no matter haw far or big thay are. We (my boys and I) wont hunt elk with any thing els.

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Re: The 338 RUM Shooting Actubond bullets
« Reply #21 on: December 04, 2009, 02:42:56 AM »
I stated what my load is for the 250gr bullet useing RL25. For the 225gr bullet it is RL25 98grs. Sometimes the powder makes a big differents All these loads are MAX loads. I have a 26" barrel. My rifle has been beded.

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Re: The 338 RUM Shooting Actubond bullets
« Reply #22 on: December 17, 2009, 05:27:24 AM »
Wyoming Coyote Hunter: I dare say that they are many who have shot at camp perry, who are indeed very good marksmen! Some better than others no doubt and a ton of knowledge walking around during the tournament too. A person can pick up a lot of pointers on how to shoot etc during that time, many their are eager to help anyone with questions on shooting.

I choose the model 70 action for a couple of reasons WCH, and the first was that I wanted a long range hunting rifle, that would in fact deliver a larger bullet weight than my very accurate  7mm Remington magnum, that I had used in the past with 160 grain bullets. It was great on mule deer but I always felt it was a little on the light side for shooting elk at ranges passed 350 yards. I have seen video's on TV where others have done this but I still believe that 160 grn bullet to light for my liking on a mature bull elk.

Now when I set out to do this project rifle, all I was not concerned about building a benchrest rifle, to shoot 1/2 groups at 200 yards! I was loooking to get a solid 1-MOA out of my project gun or better perhaps. Also I wanted to keep everything on that rifle, the same as all my other hunting rifles. Meaning the 3 position safety, control round feed magazine and that big claw extractor.

I had already been introduced to the accuracy of the model 70 Winchester some years back by a couple of Sgt's. who could really shoot the eyes out of a crow at 500 yards. Oh yeah, their choice of weapon was a model 70 Winchester in the 30-06 caliber, just in case you might have been wondering some. I can tell you that this rifle does kick a heck of a lot more than my 7mm magnum but it also hits a whale of a lot harder down range. Not long after I finished the rifle, my eyes went bad on me and I had to give up on my wants to shoot big game like elk over 300 yards down range. Now I am just satisfied as can be, just to be able to see them in my rifle scope and that will be 200 yards or less no doubt.!!!;D



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Re: The 338 RUM Shooting Actubond bullets
« Reply #23 on: December 17, 2009, 05:46:06 AM »
Whackmaster, this is another reason I wanted something with heavier bullets going down range, I am a big believer in busting shoulders on big game animals like elk, moose, kudu and eland too with proper bullet. This rifle I have as been tested from the bench and has shot under 1-MOA for a 100 yards. Targets at 650 yards had several 3 shot groups, that measured 7.5  to 9 inches and that is good to go in my book. Those rounds fired were at 60 second intervels, groups were shot every 15 minutes. Temp. was 62 degrees and wind was 4.5 mph, blowing at a quartering pattern from the southwest.

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Re: The 338 RUM Shooting Actubond bullets
« Reply #24 on: December 26, 2009, 03:13:39 AM »
Sounds like you have the rifle [the 338 RUM ] for the job.
With mine I have shot at 200yds and my group was 1.5 shooting those Accubond bullets.