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Offline cannonmn

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My favorite artillery museum
« on: September 09, 2009, 02:11:53 PM »
I'm sure I posted the link to this museum a few years ago, but since there are lots of new folks, here it is again.  The cannons pretty much begin with item no. 20.  This museum has about the widest range of cannons I know of anywhere.  One distinguishing feature is that instead of just rows of tubes like many museums, many of these are on their original carriages.

http://www.xenophon-mil.org/rusarmy/artymuseum/arttbl.htm

I've never been to this museum, but I've sent several letters volunteering to work there for free as a night watchman.  They have not answered yet.
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Re: My favorite artillery museum
« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2009, 06:01:23 PM »
Some other photos of artillery pieces at this great museum.
I don't know why, but there are also two photos of a cannon located at Gettysburg National Park included with the artillery from the Russian museum.

Ordnance at St. Petersburg Museum 
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Re: My favorite artillery museum
« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2009, 06:29:28 PM »
So much for the forum ban on the Stokes mortar as it doesn't fall umder the "before 1898" rule...:)

http://www.xenophon-mil.org/rusarmy/artymuseum/arty066s.htm





Edited for historical, I mean hysterical content. :)
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Re: My favorite artillery museum
« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2009, 08:10:36 PM »
We've talked about that very mortar before and the consensus is "show me your ATF letter."
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Re: My favorite artillery museum
« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2009, 08:24:59 PM »
this is interesting !

i never looked into what a stokes mortar really is ? i've seen the photos , and i guess it was a muzzle loader ....did it fire with a firing pin ?

how would this be something akin to a stokes .
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Re: My favorite artillery museum
« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2009, 09:17:29 PM »
A Stokes is a post-1898 design which uses fixed ammunition.
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Re: My favorite artillery museum
« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2009, 10:32:31 PM »
Quote from: MikeR C on September 17, 2009, 06:29:28 PM
So much for the forum ban on the Stokes mortar as it doesn't fall umder the "before 1898" rule...

http://www.xenophon-mil.org/rusarmy/artymuseum/arty066s.htm



I don't get your point? this is not a stokes mortar and it is way before the 1898 dead line........

All it is - is a coehorn mortar on a stick with a wooden bi-pod.......  Someone was trying to design a better mouse trap

that's all......
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Re: My favorite artillery museum
« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2009, 04:24:29 AM »

I think that MikeR C intended for his post to be taken humorously.
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Re: My favorite artillery museum
« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2009, 08:18:41 AM »
g.gaskill , damn that dry sense of humor ....you drew me in .

rich rc , also .....you could have spun that yarn for sometime .........

but i wouldnt have believed it  :o.....much ....... :D    that was a good one .

boomj put an end to your tomfoolery .
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Re: My favorite artillery museum
« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2009, 08:38:41 AM »
Allen, has it right...this is a grenade mortar on top of a tripod.  The Stokes is a long tube on a large base plate and fires a rocket.
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Re: My favorite artillery museum
« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2009, 11:50:34 AM »
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fires a rocket.

I think I know what D-man means, but of course it isn't really a rocket, it is a steel projectile that's propelled by conventional cannon propellant.  Normally mortars have a "blank shotgun shell" type ignitor cartridge inside the tail, then variously-shaped increment charges fastened to the tail so the unneeded ones can be removed easily before firing.
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Re: My favorite artillery museum
« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2009, 12:17:03 PM »
We obviously have discussed this before -- AND I WANT a replica of the 6 funt rock chucker!  Maybe beer-can caliber and more likely than not first in golf-ball caliber.

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Re: My favorite artillery museum
« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2009, 03:36:03 PM »
jeebus johnny  :o

a ROCKET  !  i heard enough ! now i want one for sure ......!

i dont think this mortar did the ol drop and get your hand out the way quick routine ....

wasn't it fired by a lanyard  or something .....humongus big .....damn i'll just google it !!!!


plus 'i can't have one ......' ......     NOT ....as i plan to do this for a long time .....i want to be free to do it ....I AM NOT A LAWYER !  ;) :) 8) ::) ;D :D
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Re: My favorite artillery museum
« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2009, 03:57:33 PM »
there is a place you can get the barrel in bronze to make that ...... ' the rifle shoppe' iirc

not to bad in price for the barrel  8)

that would be a fun project !

for real ! i have a photo of a rocket launcher musket    8)               .....and a rocket is not a cannon .
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Re: My favorite artillery museum
« Reply #14 on: September 18, 2009, 03:57:56 PM »
Me?!?! Just stir things up!?!?! I can't imagine :)
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Re: My favorite artillery museum
« Reply #15 on: September 20, 2009, 10:09:30 AM »
I have no idea for how long the rockets have been used , but this are from 1704
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Re: My favorite artillery museum
« Reply #16 on: September 20, 2009, 10:50:28 AM »
the one shown in my book looks just like musket but with a copper barrel 1.75"

"Guns and rifles of the world" Howard L. Blackmore 1965.

no cannons in this book 
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