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Re: do you ever wonder why pork is different than beef or venison?
« Reply #30 on: March 04, 2011, 09:44:18 AM »
Glad we made the new deal.  I always thought it was so the religeon would spread to areas around the globe where Pork was a staple, and the diets were different.  In the forests of Europe, fuel and water are not problems.  The colder waters of the north atlantic do not generate the bacteria that causes red tides and the fishing is safer. 
Crustations, cheese burgers, and Southern pulled Pork BBQ are too good pass up.
A thousand years ago.  before we understood microbes, red tide, sick animals, and how meat spoils from the joints out if not processed quickly.  I think I too would have wanted to give up lobster, shrimp, Crabs, Mud bugs, Clams and Oysters and not dealt with the dangers of pork.  I would also give up Mushrooms.  kidney shot down sounds like a bad way to go.
The Kosher dietary laws were just the fist food safety laws.  Had there been canning, freezing, and fertile ground in the area, kosher laws would have looked different.

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Re: do you ever wonder why pork is different than beef or venison?
« Reply #31 on: March 06, 2011, 10:27:12 AM »
Bugflipper;
  I never saw as large an operation as that, most of what I've seen were small, so I'm unfamiliar with it..but thanks for the added knowledge I can tuck away.

McWooduck;
  I know from a superficial study I did, that most all kosher laws had a good reason for their existence, a good reason for God to institute them.  Thanks for the elaboration.
No doubt.  Most of it makes sense for the time and place.
I have often asked why Christians, a relegion that has history with Jews, did not keep Kosher as well and at what point in the book did surf and turf with a fully loaded baked potato become OK.

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Re: do you ever wonder why pork is different than beef or venison?
« Reply #32 on: March 06, 2011, 11:30:12 AM »
I always figured the Rabbi was a sheep farmer.  ;D ear
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Re: do you ever wonder why pork is different than beef or venison?
« Reply #33 on: April 29, 2011, 01:38:17 PM »
Pork from a omnivore and Beef/Venison both herbavores, eating pig meat is safe if ya kill parasites in the flesh, in Bible times they dident have the capacity to process the flesh like today, most store bought pork comes prepackaged and was raised in a closed environment, up to 1980's smaller hog farms existed that you just never knew what those hogs ate or where they were, there are quite a few illnesses fron open farmed or wild pork, they taught that in basic highschool ag class, if any questions contact your county extension agent for more details.

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Re: do you ever wonder why pork is different than beef or venison?
« Reply #34 on: April 29, 2011, 02:11:26 PM »
like on venison or beef you can practically eat it raw (as long as the outside is clean, and not ground with e coli) but on pork you have to be careful...

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People are getting so wigged out now that they want to wear a tyvek suit and 3 layers of gloves when cleaning an animal

Well actually you can get tapeworms from under cooked beef. Venison I suspect would be no different.
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Re: do you ever wonder why pork is different than beef or venison?
« Reply #35 on: May 10, 2011, 09:34:09 AM »
according to the neighbor thers a whole list of nasty from Alaskan Wild game
Abscesses
Extertional myopathy
Brucellosis
Liver tape worm cysts
Tularemia
Cystic hydatid disease
lungworm
muscle tapeworm
trichinosis
Sarcocystosis
as most farmers and ranchers test for Brucellosis, they most likely have a healthy heard (not always) they have to have animals tested any that are positive and sold for consumption have to state there Bangs positive
Beef and deer get lung worm and as they eat off the ground they can absolutely be lousey with all sorts of parasites, the tape worm especially!

Since a wild hog is a omnivour the whole list applies of diseases and parasites of carnivours
alveolar hydatid disease (type of tapeworm cysts of the in the gut cavity) as hogs eat droppings like a dog will they get whatever for parasites.

cook it for shur, otherwise salt it or pickle it............imagine tapeworm cysts  in some musle you dont see and its pickled or brine'd? If I was going to be unknowingly eating meat that may likely contain such a thing wouldent you rather them tapeworms died of heat?
Tapeworm's can survive freezing at -40F for 2 weeks and reanimate when thawd.

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Re: do you ever wonder why pork is different than beef or venison?
« Reply #36 on: May 12, 2011, 10:48:02 AM »
seems like horse meat is the most parasite free

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horse_meat
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Re: do you ever wonder why pork is different than beef or venison?
« Reply #37 on: May 16, 2011, 08:53:16 AM »
seems like horse meat is the most parasite free

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horse_meat


A lot of people ate horse meat before it was banned from being processed into pet food.

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Re: do you ever wonder why pork is different than beef or venison?
« Reply #38 on: May 18, 2011, 01:24:49 PM »
Horses graze and just as prone to parasites from the plants and soil, Bot's and Blow Flies to get warmed up.
As I remember they had diffrent wormers, Ivomectin, Zimecterin, Pyrantel to name some the up to date wormers, useally adminsisterd twice a year (done in a series)they can be fed to the critters/injected or as a oral paste(calking gun) injected in mouth at back of the gum/cheek area and done in a series to kill off the parasites over a period of time and kill the next hatch.
Once seen a old stock cow die from a overdose of paste wormer (oral), the overdose killed all the internal parasites in one go, clogging her guts up like a cork, her rectum had a 4" twisted mass of dead and rotting parasites hanging there.
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Re: do you ever wonder why pork is different than beef or venison?
« Reply #39 on: May 19, 2011, 04:54:33 PM »
I want my pork well done as well as my ground beef.
Now my steak on the other hand had better be cooked a very hot open fire grill 2 minutes per side and grazing on my salad when it hits the plate.
Unless it's chicken fried the cook better not kill my steak. ;D

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