Thank you all i have learned alot from you guys. I took a 12ga. 28" mod. and put the front sight off of my tc omega over the existing bead and the peep came off of a tc encore paint is krylon ultra-flat recoil pad is a limb-saver slip on. now i can shoot shot buck shot and slugs in the same gun. I took it out a while back and it patterned well with win. #6 shot ,shoots 00buck real nice and brenneke black magic short magnums 3 shots in 3 to 4 inches at fifty yards. I think i will try some remington sluggers and winchester rifled slugs next. Thanks again for your help Jeff