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New piece to be added to my Arsenal
« on: September 20, 2009, 11:40:08 AM »
Thought you gents might like to see my latest addition.

I posted some time back about  possibly getting a 1/5 scale M1841 and still plan on doing so, but it will have to wait now since this little beauty came up on EBay and I simply couldn't pass it up.   

I would call it a mid to late 18th century 6 or maybe 12 pdr.    Since it still uses a manual quoin rather than an elevating screw system, it may be a bit earlier than the Gribeauval period.  I only wish the barrel had dolphins.    The pictures are from the seller.
 
It's a little dusty in the EBay picture, but carriage and wheels look really well executed, and it should clean up real nice


The barrel is 17.5 in. long, 70 cal bore, the over-all length is 28 in., wheels are 11.5 inch diameter, and in total it weighs 33 lbs.


Any more cannons and I will have to get a bigger place. 



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Re: New piece to be added to my Arsenal
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2009, 11:57:21 AM »
Pretty!  But that is one strange looking powder can you have there.
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Re: New piece to be added to my Arsenal
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2009, 12:45:29 PM »
do you know who made it ...? are there marks .....that is a serious nice cannon wow congradulations  ;D

cheers indeed ! ;)

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Re: New piece to be added to my Arsenal
« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2009, 12:47:01 PM »
Yea.  I would think a vintage French red wine bottle would have more in tune, in lieu of a black powder can.

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Re: New piece to be added to my Arsenal
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2009, 01:32:29 PM »
Yea.  I would think a vintage French red wine bottle would have more in tune, in lieu of a black powder can.




That's not a bad idea.    I just won the auction today, so I don't have it yet.   The pictures are from the seller, and he put the soda next to it for scale.  He also indicated
that there were no maker's marks, but one never knows.    When I get it and clean it up I'll know better what I have.  I'll try to  post some better pictures then,
and if I can get some range time, give it a test fire.

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Re: New piece to be added to my Arsenal
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2009, 02:44:47 PM »
My isn't that a lovely gun.  The aged patina is very nice, I hope you do resist the urge to polish and only wash and oil instead!

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Re: New piece to be added to my Arsenal
« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2009, 02:58:08 PM »
DD is right no shinny , no way ! this is an exception to the rule .
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Re: New piece to be added to my Arsenal
« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2009, 03:29:10 PM »
Although I am partial to shiny things, I agree about the brass/bronze in this case.   By cleaning, I mostly meant treating the wood with a little Danish wood oil and probably swiping a thin film of bicycle chain oil on the metal part.  My mountain bike brand of chain oil has wax in it, so it is pretty good as a light coating on any metal.
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Re: New piece to be added to my Arsenal
« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2009, 05:03:22 PM »
Nice! A friend of mine has almost the exact barrel and carriage. When you get it, dismount the barrel and check on the underside of it, my friend's barrel has "Spain" stamped on the bottom, between the trunnions. It's almost a carbon copy of that one. BoomLover
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Re: New piece to be added to my Arsenal
« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2009, 05:41:33 PM »
 I almost bid on that one. Looks nice. I'm kinda surprised it didn't go for more $$$.
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Re: New piece to be added to my Arsenal
« Reply #10 on: September 20, 2009, 05:57:36 PM »
Although I am partial to shiny things, I agree about the brass/bronze in this case.   By cleaning, I mostly meant treating the wood with a little Danish wood oil and probably swiping a thin film of bicycle chain oil on the metal part.  My mountain bike brand of chain oil has wax in it, so it is pretty good as a light coating on any metal.

You might want to consider RENAISSANCE WAX/POLISH or Kramer Antique Restorer.

I Have used the Kramer's and can highly recommended it.  The Reniassance Wax comes highly recdommended also, but I have not used it yet.

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« Reply #11 on: September 20, 2009, 06:08:44 PM »
 I've heard that both of those products work much better if you mix them 50/50 with BRASSO ;D
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« Reply #12 on: September 20, 2009, 06:15:30 PM »
Sunrise Victor, and no cigarette first.  :)

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Re: New piece to be added to my Arsenal
« Reply #13 on: September 20, 2009, 06:34:36 PM »
sorry vic3 ....to the wall with you !  ;D

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« Reply #14 on: September 20, 2009, 07:52:55 PM »
 Phhh. I'm scared... DD's vents are all clogged with paint!
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Re: New piece to be added to my Arsenal
« Reply #15 on: September 20, 2009, 09:21:40 PM »
What a beautifull morning ,  Is that the Sun coming up ?  God's Masterpiece.........softly reflecting from the water on the Loch...........I can see it from here , yup! even in Stinky London............my God it's even reaching America..........Damn!!!!!!!!!!!  even the Marines beginning to see the Light..........No Shiney.......
Aged Patina very nice............Uncle Sam has removed the shades..........The Lord works in Mysterious ways.
 Very good carriage...........good proportion to barrel.............excellent purchase        plenty of help on here for trial firing............you just gotta be ambushing the postman.
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Re: New piece to be added to my Arsenal
« Reply #16 on: September 21, 2009, 01:00:08 PM »
Hey guys,

The same seller that I bought my cannon from has listed another one on EBay.   This time it's a 16.5 inch Brass/bronze barreled naval model (probably a 24 pdr.)

This time he lists the barrel maker     VALLEY CANNON WORKS" FROM TIGARD OREGON IN 1982   and he used the same soda can in his picture for scale.

I'd love to have it, but my cannon budget for is blown for a while.  Anyway, I thought somebody here might be interested.

 
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« Reply #17 on: September 21, 2009, 01:41:20 PM »
That's a very nice addition to your collection.
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Re: New piece to be added to my Arsenal
« Reply #18 on: September 21, 2009, 06:46:51 PM »
FO , im sent .....how in the heck can i see that second cannon ....? :o

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« Reply #19 on: September 21, 2009, 10:46:24 PM »
FO , im sent .....how in the heck can i see that second cannon ....? :o

 You wouldn't like it..... It's too small........ Too much patina..... Seller says it's not designed for a projectile..... It's too big......... Prolly got termites, acid rain damage, and may be radioactive.......

 You don't wanna bid on something like that, do you? Let me get it so I can restore it to safe condition...
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