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« Reply #120 on: October 09, 2009, 06:54:26 PM »

I see that we have done these people more harm by our involvement. The UN has done more harm to this process as it creates a forum for the two combatants to play their political issues on a global stage. Then, each side waits to see were the support comes from through the corrupt process of so called resolutions.

How we extricate ourselves from this process will not be easy nor fast. But this should be our goal, to move from the current forward position to that of the neutral . Israel is strong and capable of taking care of its own interests. They will need to work towards compromise and the less direct support they find and the fewer political play stages there are, will quicken the path towards this resolution.


Well put - You echo my sentiments exactly.  and the sooner we extricate ourselves the better. It would force Israel to seriously work towards a two state solution with their neighbors if they knew they needed to stand on their own. It's time for them to have a serious re-commitment to the Oslo accord,.  I think the world is growing tired of this Drama being drawn out on a world stage year after year. Additionally , a two state solution would do much to provide stability in the region and contain Iran from inciting  political unrest.
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Re: Ahmadinejad Is A Man To Fear!
« Reply #121 on: October 09, 2009, 11:27:34 PM »
SCOOTRD. It should be apparent to all that there will never be an agreement that the Godless ones will live up to, their word is worthless. Israel feeds those scum, millions of $ a year+ all kinds of humanitarian aid, yet the Godless ones continue to bite the hand that feeds them. If Israel laid down her arms, the Godless ones would anhilate them, Israel would be a cesspool of death. If the Godless ones laid down their arms, there would be peace. Not hard to see that. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
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« Reply #122 on: October 10, 2009, 01:42:34 AM »
Thats exactly right Powderman.
The Muslim lovers don't seem to want to talk about Ahmadinejad the terrorist. Remember thats the guy that wants Israel and America wiped off the map. There are those also that think Ahmadinejad isn't a terrorist. Ahmadinejad stated,  “With respect to the Islamic countries, we are ready to transfer nuclear know how to these countries.” For those that have a hard time understanding this, it means that every terrorist organization is going to have the opportunity to use these nuclear weapons, and the weapons won’t just be for Israel. The Muslim haters of America will bring them here also. Eugene Habiger, former executive Chief of strategic weapons at the Pentagon, said “That an event of nuclear mega-terrorism on US soil is….not a matter of if, but when.” 
  There are those that want us to believe that these type of people can achieve peace if only Israel would give up more of their land, and that they can be coddled with diplomacy. What do we call this? That’s right, The Road Map for Peace. There are people that think the Arabs can be pacified with a so called road map for peace are ignorant of facts. The Arabs will not stop until Israel is pushed into the dead sea, and they have Jerusalem, which is their sole target. The battle for Jerusalem is coming and its going to affect every nation. Its kind of what God said is going to happen. You are free to believe this, or you can continue to believe that Israel has no right too their land, and that the Muslims only want Gaza and the West Bank.     

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Re: Ahmadinejad Is A Man To Fear!
« Reply #123 on: October 10, 2009, 06:23:09 AM »
Old TM pops up another Neo Nazi sight and trys to pass it off as a "true Torah Jew" sight. Do you ever give up? Or is this just more mateial for the BBQ?


So TM how about some answers,

1. Were the WW2 veterans I talked to that heped liberate some of the death camp liars?

2. My name is Bill and I live in St. James MN, how about your name and where do you live?

Are you afraid to answer? If so just say so.


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« Reply #124 on: October 10, 2009, 10:32:08 AM »
After Ahmadinejad’s election he addressed a conference in Tehran called “A World Without Zionism”, and declared that: “The occupation regime of Qods (Jerusalem, or Israel) must be wiped off from the map of the world, and with the help of the Almighty, we shall soon experience a world without America and Zionism, notwithstanding those who doubt”. “To those who doubt, to those who ask is it possible, or those who do not believe, I say accomplishment of a world without America and Israel is both possible and feasible.”  These are his own words TM. I don’t know how you look at it, but I would bet that most would say that Ahmadinejad wants America and Israel destroyed.  He also stated that he vowed to ignite a worldwide Islamic revolution. “The wave of the Islamic revolution will soon reach the entire world”.

Zion is Jerusalem, and Jerusalem is the heart and soul of Zionism. You try to make it sound as though Ahmadinejad is a Saint because he just wants to wipe out Zionism. It is all about Jerusalem and since its the City Of God and the heart and soul of Zionism. Ahmadinejad wants it destroyed. If this doesn’t sound like terrorism I don’t know what is.
Ahmadinejad was positively identified by three Americans held in the 1979 seizure of the US embassy in Iran as one of their interrogators during the hostage crisis. Colonel Charles Scoot said that Ahmadinejad  was one of his former captors, and one of the top two or three leaders.
He was also identified as the executioner at Evin Prison.
Aljazeera has identified him as a former Revolutionary Guard commander, and loyal to Iran’s supreme leader Ayat Allah Ali Khamenei. 
 Come on TM admit it, the Guy is nothing but a terrorist.
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« Reply #125 on: October 10, 2009, 11:48:11 AM »
DDZ. Good post and all true. Tm knows what ahmadinajad is, and he supports his president, I believe tm works with him as his pr man. Islam is a cancer, a boil on the butt of the ENTIRE world, and should be treated as such. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:(
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« Reply #126 on: October 10, 2009, 04:06:30 PM »
DDZ for TM to admit that would make it so his antisemetic hatred was openly displayed. He is even afraid to admit what his name is or where he lives. He thinks his anonymoty makes him seem to be important and some kinda super secret super sleuth agent. Aint that right agent 7?
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Re: Ahmadinejad Is A Man To Fear!
« Reply #127 on: October 10, 2009, 05:30:08 PM »
Jeruselum is a Holy city, the Godless ones have no business there. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:(
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« Reply #128 on: October 12, 2009, 05:12:26 AM »
An OVER ARCHING REASON WHY THE NUT JOB Must GO - and take KIM JONG IL with him.

A photograph of the Iranian president holding up his identity card during elections in March 2008 clearly shows his family has Jewish roots. A close-up of the document reveals he was previously known as Sabourjian – a Jewish name meaning cloth weaver. The short note scrawled on the card suggests his family changed its name to Ahmadinejad when they converted to embrace Islam after his birth.

The Sabourjians traditionally hail from Aradan, Mr Ahmadinejad's birthplace, and the name derives from "weaver of the Sabour", the name for the Jewish Tallit shawl in Persia. The name is even on the list of reserved names for Iranian Jews compiled by Iran's Ministry of the Interior. Experts last night suggested Mr Ahmadinejad's track record for hate-filled attacks on Jews could be an overcompensation to hide his past. Ali Nourizadeh, of the Centre for Arab and Iranian Studies, said: "This aspect of Mr Ahmadinejad's background explains a lot about him.

"Every family that converts into a different religion takes a new identity by condemning their old faith. "By making anti-Israeli statements he is trying to shed any suspicions about his Jewish connections. He feels vulnerable in a radical Shia society." A London-based expert on Iranian Jewry said that "jian" ending to the name specifically showed the family had been practising Jews. "He has changed his name for religious reasons, or at least his parents had," said the Iranian-born Jew living in London. "Sabourjian is well known Jewish name in Iran."

Aside from all the other issues surrounding Ahmadinejad , nuclear weapons development ect.. -  Here's another reason he needs to be off the world stage. He only exacerbates the instability between Israel and Palestine. 

This was a Daily Telegraph story picked up by the foreign world press.
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The Iranian leader has not denied his name was changed when his family moved to Tehran in the 1950s. But he has never revealed what it was change from or directly addressed the reason for the switch.Relatives have previously said a mixture of religious reasons and economic pressures forced his blacksmith father Ahmad to change when Mr Ahmadinejad was aged four. 

Mr Ahmadinejad has regularly leveled bitter criticism at Israel, questioned its right to exist and denied the Holocaust. British diplomats walked out of a UN meeting last month after the Iranian president denounced Israel's 'genocide, barbarism and racism.' Benjamin Netanyahu made an impassioned denunciation of the Iranian leader at the same UN summit. "Yesterday, the man who calls the Holocaust a lie spoke from this podium," he said. "A mere six decades after the Holocaust, you give legitimacy to a man who denies the murder of six million Jews while promising to wipe out the State of Israel, the State of the Jews. What a disgrace. What a mockery of the charter of the United Nations."

Mr Ahmadinejad has been consistently outspoken about the Nazi attempt to wipe out the Jewish race. "They have created a myth today that they call the massacre of Jews and they consider it a principle above God, religions and the prophets," he declared at a conference on the holocaust staged in Tehran in 2006.

From the foreign Policy Article:

On the international front, the problem of Ahmadinejad's past produces other complications. As his heritage becomes a more public question, it only makes it less likely that he can find accommodation with Israel without compromising himself in Muslim eyes. To protect and further his political career, Ahmadinejad will only be more compelled to reaffirm his Shiite identity by presenting himself as the champion of Muslim and Palestinian rights over Jewish and Israeli ones.

Consequently, Ahmadinejad's Jewish background, will only make peace in the Middle East and compromise with the United States less likely on his part. And in endeavoring to deflect and vitiate complications -- actual or imaginary -- from his past, the Iranian president continues to sully his nation's image and tarnish his own legacy.

The Result is he becomes an inhibitor to real peace negotiations between Israel and the Palestinian peoples, and does everything in his power to stir up unrest in the Region.


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Re: Ahmadinejad Is A Man To Fear!
« Reply #129 on: October 12, 2009, 08:39:37 AM »
"The Dudes got to go." 

scootrd...maybe, but this seems like a great departure from your post#140 wherein you have a more Jeffersonian approach. I hazzard to guess the sources of your above reports, but would like to know.  Are they from worldnetdaily..?

Meanwhile, when the story broke about MA jewishness, I immediately thought that he was a double agent, actually something I thought long ago (sort of like Obama, actually, who is now proclaimed by various jewish groups as "The First Jewish President...seriously...do a search)), because in essence he is promoting the cause of perpetual war rather than capping it off; which is a primarily operative goal of the zio-nwo machine. Actually, it is guys like MA that give justification to the palestinian holocaust/genocide in essence, legitmizing it in the eyes of the powdermans, billys, and DDZs of the world.


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Yes world net Daily -  and  -  FP - Foreign Policy. October 6th (however the story was covered globally (I crossed checked a few other world reports)  I readily admit I did the proverbal cut and paste but I didn't have time to type in my own words. Additionally I did not want to interject my own slant in the articles.

Apparently this has also caused strife within Iran as well , with the mullahs using this information to seek political gains.
Additionally I do not view my comments as a departure nor a contradiction . I believe negotiations between Israel and Palestine would best be served if he was gone from the world stage. I did not say we as a nation could or should do anything about it to force- ably remove . But I think many nations will breath a sigh of relief once he has exited left from the stage. He is a very unstable person.


As I said in Post 244.

On Iran.



I truly believe The Iranian Gov't (not necessarily the common peoples) is a destabilizing threat to the whole region and continue to exacerbate the Isreal/Palestinian thorn wanting it to fester so they may exploit for their own gains .  Additionally when your Buddy is North Korea , the world must be very concerned. I have no doubt in my mind that these two countries are sharing resources to develop a nuclear or atomic weapons.
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Re: Ahmadinejad Is A Man To Fear!
« Reply #130 on: October 12, 2009, 08:44:46 AM »
I think he is more to ridicule than to fear.
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« Reply #131 on: October 12, 2009, 09:00:32 AM »
I think he is more to ridicule than to fear.

Cabin,
I wish I could be so sure.. I do think he is an unstable man and  someone to  fear.

unrelated to the above posts  - 


It was interesting I was watching a "B" movie a few nights ago and there was a line that made a lot of sense to me.
We have less to fear of a person who is trying to acquire 10 nukes than we do the person who only wants to gain 1 !!!

Hokie I admit , but I guess the thought is. The person who only wants access to a single nuclear device obviously intends to use it.
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Re: Ahmadinejad Is A Man To Fear!
« Reply #132 on: October 12, 2009, 02:03:49 PM »
"The Dudes got to go." 

scootrd...maybe, but this seems like a great departure from your post#140 wherein you have a more Jeffersonian approach. I hazzard to guess the sources of your above reports, but would like to know.  Are they from worldnetdaily..?

Meanwhile, when the story broke about MA jewishness, I immediately thought that he was a double agent, actually something I thought long ago (sort of like Obama, actually, who is now proclaimed by various jewish groups as "The First Jewish President...seriously...do a search)), because in essence he is promoting the cause of perpetual war rather than capping it off; which is a primarily operative goal of the zio-nwo machine. Actually, it is guys like MA that give justification to the palestinian holocaust/genocide in essence, legitmizing it in the eyes of the powdermans, billys, and DDZs of the world


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       ...It seems Scootr is being very Jeffersonian...Jefferson didn't put up with the Muslim Barbary pirates either... ;) :D ;D
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« Reply #133 on: October 12, 2009, 05:00:35 PM »
some one  told me he was a mason

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« Reply #134 on: October 13, 2009, 03:28:57 AM »
 A good share of our national forefathers were Masons. Only conspiracy theorists see anything greatly sinister in that. The Masons at one time wielded some political power. They gradually lost much of it over the years; then in the mid 1800s, due to a murder in central NY State, the Masons lost a great deal of their clout. I doubt they even seek such clout these days.
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