Ahmadinejad Is A Man To Fear!

[powderman]

rio.  The 6 mil figure is fro the nazis own records. Are you saying they faked millions of murders for bragging rights?? Get real. POWDERMAN. 

[billy_56081]

Have you even noticed the types of people who deny the Holocost? Muslim terrorists, neo Nazis and plain old run of the mil nuts. What is sad is that the WW2 vets who saw it first hand are dying out and this leaves the nuts to spread their lies. Some spread this garbage because of a hatred of the Jews as a people and then there are the stupid followers who just don't know any better.

[powderman]

My uncle Glen died Tuesday night, a WW11 vet, he knew the truth. He was my last uncle, my Mom is the last of her generation, she too knows the truth. POWDERMAN. 

[rio grande]

Israel is the biggest trouble-maker in that part of the world. Don't believe the war propaganda!


1. Last Spring, Rose Gottemoeller, an assistant secretary of state and Washington's chief nuclear arms negotiator, asked Israel to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. Israel refused.

2. The United Nations passed a resolution calling on Israel to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and to submit to inspections. Israel refused.

3. The IAEA asked Israel to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and to submit to inspections. Israel refused.

4. Iran's formal notification to the IAEA of the planned construction of the backup fuel-rod facility underscores that Iran is playing by the rules of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty which Iran has signed.

5. Iran allows IAEA inspections of all its facilities.

6. Contrary to face-saving claims, it appears that the US and Israel were both caught off guard by Iran's announcement. The reasoning is simple. Had the US or Israel announced the existence of he new facility before Iran's notified the IAEA, it would have put Iran on the defensive. As it is now, the US and Israel seem to be playing catch up, casting doubt on the veracity of Israel's claims to "know" that Iran is a nuclear threat.

7. The IAEA and all 16 United States Intelligence Agencies are unanimous in agreement that Iran is not building and does not possess nuclear weapons.

8. In 1986, Mordachai Vanunu blew the whistle and provided photographs showing Israel's clandestine nuclear weapons factory underneath the reactor at Dimona.

9. Israel made the same accusations against Iraq that it is making against Iran, leading up to Israel's bombing of the power station at Osirik. Following the invasion of 2003, international experts examined the ruins of the power station at Osirik and found no evidence of a clandestine weapons factory in the rubble.

10. The United Nations has just released the Goldstone Report, a scathing report which accuses Israel of 37 specific war crimes and crimes against humanity in Gaza earlier this year. Israel has denounced the report as "Anti-Semitic (even though Judge Goldstone is himself Jewish), and the United States will block the report from being referred to the War Crimes Tribunal at the Hague, thereby making the US Government an accessory after-the-fact.

[rio grande]

rio.  The 6 mil figure is fro the nazis own records. Are you saying they faked millions of murders for bragging rights?? Get real. POWDERMAN. 

The war itself was a tragedy.  But why is any questioning illegal in many countries?  We have no right to question the "official" story?

This is from 'The Institute for Historical Review'.

"At the end of World War II the Allies confiscated a tremendous quantity of German documents dealing with Germany's wartime Jewish policy, which was sometimes referred to as the “final solution.” But not a single document has been found that even refers to an extermination program. To the contrary, the documents show that Germany’s “final solution” policy was one of emigration and deportation, not extermination."

"There is no documentary evidence that Adolf Hitler ever gave an order to exterminate the Jews. Instead, the record shows that the German leader wanted the Jews to leave Europe, by emigration if possible and by deportation if necessary. A confidential document found after the war in the files of the Reich Ministry of Justice records his thinking. In the spring of 1942, State Secretary Schlegelberger noted in a memorandum that Hitler’s Chief of Chancellery, Dr. Hans Lammers, had informed him that “the Führer [Hitler] has repeatedly declared to him [Lammers] that he wants to see the solution of the Jewish problem postponed until after the war is over.” [11]

Read it for yourself...http://www.ihr.org/leaflets/bothsides.shtml

[billy_56081]

So Rio is the UN the last word on everything now? Are you a UN supporter? My god antisemites will use anything to bolster their propaganda. 

[rio grande]

So Rio is the UN the last word on everything now? Are you a UN supporter? My god antisemites will use anything to bolster their propaganda. 

The article mentions the IAEA, Assistant US Sec. of State, and the UN.
Of course I understand these days it's almost impossible to find a 100% honest source, not 'our' Government, the UN, the Israelis, the Iranians or anybody else. But there are facts.  I listed 10 facts. Where are yours?
 Israelis have the bomb and the Iranians don't. Iran allows international Inspectors in, Israel does not. 
 And Ahmadinejad is no real threat to the US.
Don't fall for the war propaganda.  These useless wars we are already involved in are killing our people for no good reason and are destroying our economy and our freedoms.
Do you want another war?  Will you go fight it?
Obama supports the wars - are you an Obama supporter?

[Cabin4]

I don't think we need to fear him at all. He is powerless in that country. It’s the Supreme Mullah that has all the power. Ahmadinejad is nothing more than a mouth piece to create a distraction from Iran's internal domestic disastrous social issues and economy. They are just looking for attention and the world is giving it now.

[The Hermit]

Cabin4, did you know beerbelly has 10 dogs and he won't let us borrow any for coon huntin?
Captain always says share. 


   The Hermit

[billy_56081]

Rio I am an army vet and I support America and her allies. I understand that antisemetic hatred can make folks blind to the obvious. It's good that most people can see the world without the hatred. I'm sure HHH will not allow our army to win and then this war will be over. I bet HHH our muslim president hates Jews just like you, so hey you 2 are birds of a feather.

[powderman]

rio. More liberal, Jew hating lies. Are you and tm related???  Maybe even one and the same??? Why didn't hitler just let them go instead of herding them into cattle cars to their deaths??? Are you a muslim like tm? What country do you live in??? Certainly not an American. POWDERMAN. 

[Redtail1949]

There is a cure for ignorance, it is called education. However, there is no cure for stupid.

So for anyone that doubts, read and learn! For those that are stupid, i feel sorry for you. Nuff said.

[rio grande]

There is a cure for ignorance, it is called education. However, there is no cure for stupid.

So for anyone that doubts, read and learn! For those that are stupid, i feel sorry for you. Nuff said.

Amen to that, brother!
Here's one more bit of education for the ignorant.

"The idea that Israel could indefinitely maintain a nuclear monopoly in the region – enforced by the U.S. military – was never a very practical one. Israel’s attorneys in this country who argue that Iranian success in joining the nuclear club would set off a regional arms race are a bit late: the race started the moment Israel stole the technology from the West and made its own nukes with French assistance and over U.S. opposition. " 

Read the article, it's at  http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2009/09/29/our-intelligence-and-theirs/

and more...
"We may bankrupt ourselves in the process, drive the price of oil up to $200 a barrel, and start World War III – but confront them we will, of that you can rest assured. It’s only a matter of time. The pro-war ads have already begun, and the “liberal” media is lining up behind its commander in chief. All the actors are in their places, and now the drama – an all-too-familiar drama – begins. “Weapons of mass destruction," phony intelligence, a compliant media: all the ingredients are there. All that’s needed is a spark that sets off the conflagration…"

[rio grande]

Rio I am an army vet and I support America and her allies. I understand that antisemetic hatred can make folks blind to the obvious. It's good that most people can see the world without the hatred. I'm sure HHH will not allow our army to win and then this war will be over. I bet HHH our muslim president hates Jews just like you, so hey you 2 are birds of a feather.

And Nancy Pelosi is a big fan of Israel!  Just like you!

"Reports by international human rights groups and from within Israel in recent weeks have revealed the massive scale of war-crimes and other violations of international humanitarian law, committed by Israeli forces during their three-week offensive against the Gaza Strip earlier this year. Despite this, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi has steadfastly stood by her insistence that the U.S.-backed Israeli government has no legal or moral responsibility for the tragic consequence of the war."

What kind of birds are you two?   

billy, I love this country - that's why I don't want Americans to die in unnecessary and useless wars for Israel.  We need to take care of our business at home and not be jerked around by some arrogant little country.  Do you really think your friends the Israelis give a tinkers dam about America or you?

[ironglow]

Rio;
  Don't get sucked in by "human rights groups", I should imagine that we all know that the vast majority of such groups are just fronts for partisan efforts. In this case they represent just another arm of the Muslim propaganda war.
   I find it interesting that almost every "human rights" group I can think of is spawned by the left. Do you think the right doesn't care about human rights? That is hardly the case, since it is almost invariably the right which fights unnecessary govt intrusion into individual's lives.
  Most of us who have lived long enough almost automatically dismiss most "human rights" groups as an agency of the political aspirations of whatever group or force would benefit from their propaganda efforts.
  We certainly find it interesting how you so concentrate on alleged abuses of the Jews while completely overlooking the worldwide outright murder and mayhem being done in the name of Muhammad every day.

       
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

[powderman]

rio. Israel went into gaza, occupied Israel, to stop your Godless friends from firing rockets and mortars daily at Israeli civilians. The Godless ones didn't care who they killed, they just wanted to kill Jews. Time after time Israel has turned over more of her God given heritage to satans disciples for peace. The Godless ones don't want peace, never have, they have dedicated their liives to anhilating Gods chosen ones and every man, woman, and child that will not bow down to satan himself. The Godless ones hide behind civilians, hoping they get killed, then people like you can scream out attrocities by that mean ol Israel, and it works. The Godless ones kill more of their own than anyone else does in war. Your Godless friends have fired THOUSANDS of rockets at civilians since their PEACE agreement, they lied, their words are worthless. I hope to see the day that Israel retakes ALL of the land God gave them. The trespassers can either die, or MOVE OUT.You and tm could be like a modern day Moses and lead them out of occupied Israel.   POWDERMAN. 

[beerbelly]

You need to look at map of Israel when the UN created it and a map of Israel now. Then tell me who is stealing the land.
                            Beerbelly

[SHOOTALL]

look at a map of North America in the early 1400's and then one todat and tell me who hasn't stole land ? Where did the UN get it to start with ?

[rio grande]

If we bomb Iran or our 'friends' the Israelis do, it very well might have serious repercussions.  Here is Glenn Beck interviewing Rep. Ron Paul...

“What happens when Israel strikes Iran or Iran has the earth rays and we know that they now have a nuclear weapon, what happens to our financial system at that point?” Beck asked.

“I think the Chinese take over,” Paul said. “If there’s a real panic and oil shoots up to a couple of hundred bucks, the Chinese will dump their dollars. Chinese are maneuvering for this. The more we threaten Iran, the stronger the Chinese influence gets because they're using the dollars that they have earned from us and saved, they have a trillion, and they are starting to buy up assets in Iran and build plants and get involved in their energy. So the whole thing is backfiring on us. We’re getting ready to put tougher sanctions on the Iranians and that will make things that much worse. It won't help the dissidents in Iran. It's going to cost us a lot of money, and there will be a bombing and that will be a big, big event. I think it will crash the dollar is what I think it would do.”

http://www.businessandmedia.org/articles/2009/20091001105703.aspx

Don't listen to the Israelis who want Iran bombed. They have their own agenda and care nothing for the US except for what they can beg, borrow, or steal from us.
If Iran is a threat to the US, it is a very minor one.

[billy_56081]

Rio how about you give us a little back round on your hatred of Israel?

So is Israel supposed to sit on its hands until Iran nukes them? Iran has came straight and said it wants Israel wiped off the face of the earth. Is reacting to a legitimate threat not acceptable to you? Or has your personal antisemetic hatred caused you to be blind to this fact?

Israel has NEVER been the aggressor in any conflict yet the muslim/nazi/antisemite faction of the world blames them for reacting to an attack. You hate monger folks must be the same lot as those who blame a rape victim for provocing their rape.

[Cabin4]

It's a tuff place out here. Israel trying to survive, Iran and nukes, Iraq, Afganistan growing mess, our troops fighting & dying on foreign soil......

What a wreck. I'm with Ron Paul on how to get us out of these disasters and it ain’t gonna be easy.

[powderman]

BEERBELLY. The un couldn't create what God already endowed. I was talking about the original grant of land God gave them for eternity thousands of years ago. In the back of my family Bible there is a map of the land God promised Israel. It's Northern boundary goes all the way to the edge of Damascus. Israel is occupied by 5 Godless nations, I doubt God is happy about that. I believe the boundaries are given in the book of Numbers, I'd hafta look it up. They have given land for peace numerous times, but the Godless ones lie, there is no peace. If the Godless ones laid down their weapons, there would be peace. If Israel laid down it's arms, there would be a bloodbath. The Godless ones should be driven out, or killed. POWDERMAN. 

[mirage1988]

If we bomb Iran or our 'friends' the Israelis do, it very well might have serious repercussions.  Here is Glenn Beck interviewing Rep. Ron Paul...

“What happens when Israel strikes Iran or Iran has the earth rays and we know that they now have a nuclear weapon, what happens to our financial system at that point?” Beck asked.

“I think the Chinese take over,” Paul said. “If there’s a real panic and oil shoots up to a couple of hundred bucks, the Chinese will dump their dollars. Chinese are maneuvering for this. The more we threaten Iran, the stronger the Chinese influence gets because they're using the dollars that they have earned from us and saved, they have a trillion, and they are starting to buy up assets in Iran and build plants and get involved in their energy. So the whole thing is backfiring on us. We’re getting ready to put tougher sanctions on the Iranians and that will make things that much worse. It won't help the dissidents in Iran. It's going to cost us a lot of money, and there will be a bombing and that will be a big, big event. I think it will crash the dollar is what I think it would do.”

http://www.businessandmedia.org/articles/2009/20091001105703.aspx

Don't listen to the Israelis who want Iran bombed. They have their own agenda and care nothing for the US except for what they can beg, borrow, or steal from us.
If Iran is a threat to the US, it is a very minor one.

Amazing how a left-winger can make beck more left than they are! Keep turning left RIO-you will find you have turned right.

[powderman]

rio. Yes, Israel has an agenda. They want to be able to exist, they want peace, but there is none as long as the Godless ones live. POWDERMAN. 

[beerbelly]

Powderman, if god gave it to them, let god take care of them! And let us stay out of it. Religous nuts are religous nuts, no matter whitch god they pray to.
                             Beerbelly

[powderman]

BEERBELLY. I really do understand what you are saying but you have to understand that God uses people to do his work. God has used entire nations to punish Israel many years ago for their disobedience and idol worship. God has also used other nations to help Israel and blessed those nations for doing so. I believe it is Gods will that we help them and also that is the reason our nation has been so richly blessed. POWDERMAN. 

[DDZ]

TM, I guess all the survivors of the holocaust were liars. What is there to investigate? Europe contained around 9 million Jews  and Hitler slaughtered two thirds of them. Yes Homo’s and others were included in the holocaust, but the fact is that it was all about killing all the Jews.
 Ahmadinejad is nothing but a terrorist. You seem to dispute this fact. After his election he addressed a conference in Tehran and declared that: “The occupation regime of Qods (Jerusalem, or Israel) must be wiped off from the map of the world, and with the help of the Almighty, we shall soon experience a world without America and Zionism, notwithstanding those who doubt”. “To those who doubt, to those who ask is it possible, or those who do not believe, I say accomplishment of a world without America and Israel is both possible and feasible.” 
This sounds to me like he wants Israel and America wiped off the map. Maybe you read into differently, or is it you may be the one that turns away from facts, because its something you don’t want to hear.
Jerusalem is the heart and soul of Zionism. Jerusalem is now and will be in the future, the center of the universe. Jerusalem is like no other city on the face of the earth because Jerusalem is nothing less than the city of God. It has always been about Israel and it will be about Israel in the end also. Israel is our only ally in the Middle East. If it were not for Israel, radical Islam would rule the whole Middle East. Israel votes with America in the United Nations more than any other nation, including England, Canada, France and Germany. We need to continue our support for Israel, but the Muslim lovers we now have in power may prevent that.           

[billy_56081]

So TM were the camp survivors, the American soldiers and the German people themselves all liars? It is pityful that the antisemites will put forward some obscure websight or nut case "expert" and completly blow off the milions of people that witnessed the holocaust firsthand. You antisemites are a pityful lot luckily the only people that follow your sick lies and believe them are the mentally deranged and hate filled.


Cool TM your hero Ahmendinejad has a Jewish past just like your other hero Aloph Hitler.


Hey I bet you can work that into your act on your upcoming "the Jews did it" tour 

Dude you never fail to crack me up!

[Redtail1949]

The research has been don and documentation fills libraries all around the world. As a matter of fact they are still even as we speak digging up bones in forest of Jews that were killed but are just now finfding where they put them. In most cases where they were killed outside the camps by the Execution Squades of the SS the killed everyone so no one could tell anything other than they saw them loaded up and moved out by transport. They continue uncovering those pits they died in.

The facts are there the documentaion exist even available to any moron that will refuse to believe what they read or even see.

TM slides by the question by saying he does not say it did not happen only that someone needs to prove it to him. Well the proof is there and I do not think that TM would ever admit it happened no matter what. So he may believe what he wants that is fine with me. He just simply reveals himself to be a fool.

[Arier Blut]

http://judaism.about.com/od/holocaust/a/its_badarolson.htm

http://www.science.co.il/holocaust-museums.asp

I have no idea how many Jews were killed. I would assume the German government's estimate would be more accurate than many other sources.


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