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Ordnance in museum-photos
« on: September 27, 2009, 03:11:25 PM »
Was in the newly-re-opened US Naval Academy museum recently just to run through quickly and check it out.  There's a lot less in the way of ordnance than before the refurbishment, and waaay too many swords now, but what's left of the ordnance includes some nice items.  Here are some photos.

http://s17.photobucket.com/albums/b62/cannonmn/miscforumsetc/forums46/?action=view&current=3ba29354.pbw

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Re: Ordnance in museum-photos
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2009, 01:12:01 AM »
Cannonmn,  Thanks for the photos.  I wonder if these are functional models and if the mini caplocks work on the Dahlgren?  I did a pair of caps like those on a 1/6 scale but made them slightly larger to work.
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Re: Ordnance in museum-photos
« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2009, 01:40:58 AM »
The models were all made for training midshipmen at the Naval Academy, but I'm pretty sure they are exactly to scale, inluding the locks and vents, which would mean they weren't intended to fire, ever.  I can tell none have been fired due to condition of the metal.  I'm not sure the vents are drilled all the way through.
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Re: Ordnance in museum-photos
« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2009, 10:21:44 AM »
Cannonmn,

I'd like to take this time to thank you for posting all of the interesting slideshows, and vids that you so often share with us here on the board. While I sincerely meant what I said in the preceding sentence, you have probably already guessed that you are now going to be hit with another bothersome request for some additional pictures. On this last visit to this museum you have one pic in the slideshow of what I now know (thanks to your photo of the sign) to be a John Ericsson patent model for his XV-inch Dahlgren carriage design. This wrought iron sliding carriage (brass on the model) was intended to be used on the Ericsson designed monitors. If you can find the time I would really appreciate it if you would post these, and any additional photos you might have of this fine model, (you had posted an earlier slide show of items from this museum that showed this brass carriage and rails) so I could save, and have the ability to enlarge them. The reason I'm asking is because I've got an 11'' long .75 cal Dahlgren barrel made out of 4140 steel that "resembles" the XV-inch gun, and I'd like to copy this brass carriage to serve as its mount. There are drawings of the real deal from the "Text Book of Naval Ordnance and Gunnery, 1880," but there's no way I'm going to try to achieve that level of detail, this brass model will do just fine; besides, I like the contrast of the dark barrel with the brass carriage.

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Re: Ordnance in museum-photos
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2009, 01:39:43 PM »
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I would really appreciate it if you would post these,

Here are all the pix in that vicinity, including the Monitor gun and carriage.  It isn't any trouble to post links to pix in one of the slideshows, only takes a few min., happy to do it anytime.  Lots of folks here help me out too, like gent who took his time to scan the article I needed yesterday.

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b62/cannonmn/miscforumsetc/forums46/IMG_0544.jpg
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b62/cannonmn/miscforumsetc/forums46/IMG_0546.jpg
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b62/cannonmn/miscforumsetc/forums46/IMG_0550.jpg
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b62/cannonmn/miscforumsetc/forums46/IMG_0554.jpg
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b62/cannonmn/miscforumsetc/forums46/IMG_0555.jpg
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b62/cannonmn/miscforumsetc/forums46/IMG_0556.jpg
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b62/cannonmn/miscforumsetc/forums46/IMG_0557.jpg
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b62/cannonmn/miscforumsetc/forums46/IMG_0559.jpg

If I can remember, I'll try to get more pix of that model next time I'm in the museum.
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Re: Ordnance in museum-photos
« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2009, 01:41:47 PM »
Thanks, Cannonmn! Anything else you have (or can get) on this model would be greatly appreciated. I see that this one also has the flat ended cascabel.

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Re: Ordnance in museum-photos
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Re: Ordnance in museum-photos
« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2009, 02:35:04 PM »
Thanks Cannonmn, those pics are great! That last photo threw me for a good sized loop: I was repeatedly studying, pondering, eyeballing, perusing, cogitating upon, musing on, and just plain staring at the object in that picture, without any success in figuring out what part of that model it could possibly represent; then it finally dawned on me that it wasn't part of that model, it was in fact a miniature of a monitor's turret with a Dahlgren gun sticking out of the gun port. 
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