CZ 452 what kind of accuracy

[Ultra25-06]

Thinking of getting one of these once I get back to the states. I own a 527 in .223 and love it. It seems the 452 is very close in terms of length and weight. I am thinking I would like to go with the heavy barreled model. Does anyone have both standard and heavy models and how do they compare? How is the accuracy at 100yds? Any other info would be great. Thanks.

[mcwoodduck]

I have an open sighted model.
With the slide rear sight.
When we would go out to the range and screw around by putting clay birds out with the sights set for 100 yards with the 36 grain hp rem loads I could hit the clay birds 4 for 5 rounds off of a rest.
With the birds out to 200 yards Off hand I could hit one for 5 rounds but woulf be right there.
My old neighbor had every model you could think of and would shoot the little black see and shoot dots the size of a dime at 50 meters (we built a 50 Meter range in his back yard, and if any were outside of the dime size fill dot he would get pissed at himself for screwing up the shot.

[Casull]

I've got the standard weight barrel, and with a 2 x 7 Leupold set at 7 power and using Winchester Power Points, I can place five in a dime size group at 50 yards (when I do my part).  They are very accurate, and I just love the looks and feel of the gun.  I haven't shot mine at 100 yards, so I can't comment at that range.

[Simple Man]

Every CZ 452 I have ever fired has been highly accurate. My 452 MAg was the most accurate 22mag I have ever fired, it would group under a 1/2" at 50 yeards and stay around 3/4 at 100. My 17HMR would easily do under a 1/2 at 100 if I was on a solid rest with no wind. In my opinion you have to spend a lot more money on a custom rifle to find anything that shoots as well as these do out of the box.

[Bigeasy]

I have one with the german style stock in pretty walnut, with a 2x7 scope.  Shoots a hair under 1/2' from a bench at 50 yards with ammo it likes.  I have owned a lot of .22's, and only my much more expensive Kimber compares with it.  CZ's are very well made and accurate.  Just bought a .204 varmint CZ that puts Winchester 34 grain HP's into about 1/2' at 100 yards.

Larry 

[JPShelton]

Short answer?  Stellar.

Longer answer?  I had a 452-2E ZKM that would shoot well under 1/2 inch at 50 yards with a variety of ammo types.  I don't think there are many people who have bought these that have been disappointed with them.

-JP

[hesco]

have a 452 standard weight barrel, with wolf match will shoot under 3/8 at 50 yards consistantly, will shoot 5/8 to 3/4 at 100 yards consistantly with no or low wind. for the money their is nothing better out of the box no mods. also have a brno #2 which is a great uncle to this rifle, shoots just a tad better, than the 452. but looks like hell, its my sleeper, really freaks anschutz crowd out when i outshoot their thousand dollar anschutz rifles with a brno i gave 65 dollars for.

[Arier Blut]

have a 452 standard weight barrel, with wolf match will shoot under 3/8 at 50 yards consistantly, will shoot 5/8 to 3/4 at 100 yards consistantly with no or low wind. for the money their is nothing better out of the box no mods. also have a brno #2 which is a great uncle to this rifle, shoots just a tad better, than the 452. but looks like hell, its my sleeper, really freaks anschutz crowd out when i outshoot their thousand dollar anschutz rifles with a brno i gave 65 dollars for.

Mine mirrors hesco's post. I have the heavy barrel 22lr. same size groups as he is getting using wolf, I use a 9x scope. I used to have a 16x on it and it, or I guess I did a little better but it was to much for hunting. A buddy has a trainer model and it does the same groups with wolf. Both of ours are slightly below 1/2" at fifty just like the rest of the guys with high velocity ammo. I like the heavy barrel for balance when hunting, but it doesn't make a difference in accuracy. I would imagine a 22lr doesn't put out enough heat to need a heavy barrel to keep the groups down with a lot of shots.

[jlchucker]

Some friends of mine who shoot 22's extensively own both CZ's and Kimbers.  They claim that the CZ's not only shoot as well, or better, but that they have plenty of change left over to buy ammo with as well. After hearing that, I went to the same gunshop we all patronize and ordered one for myself.  I've never owned a Kimber, so I can't verify the claims of my friends first-hand, but they're right about one thing--these CZ's really shoot!  My only complaint is that the side swing safety, works in the exact opposite direction of a Winchester Model 70 safety--i.e, you pull it back to fire, instead of pushing it forward.  That part's pretty minor to me, though.  If you look at the CZ you'll find real quality in the machining of real steel, and plenty of accuracy for what you paid.

[anweis]

I have a 452 Full Stock with incredibly nice walnut stock. I mounted a peep site blade instead of the factory blade. I plan on mounting a 1-3x20 scope with QD rings as soon as i figure out which ones.
After installing a Timney trigger on this rifle, i was able to shoot 3/4" groups at 50 yards, but it can do much better than that. That's just the best i could do with the peep. 

These rifles seem to like lower velocity ammo much better than hi-viz-bang hyper velocity stuff. Mine likes 40 gr. subsonic loads, and regular velocity match loads.

[anweis]

These rifles seem to like lower velocity ammo much better than hi-viz-bang hyper velocity stuff. Mine likes 40 gr. subsonic loads, and regular velocity match loads.

I have since installed a scope (2.5x20 fixed) and tried 5 different kinds of ammunition in the rifle: 2 target premium types, and 3 economy 550 round pack types. The rifle shoots less than 1" at 50 yards regardless of ammo, but on some types it needs a bit of fouling.

[NickSS]

I have a CZ 453 (same as the 453 except has a set trigger) varminter and a CZ 452 Scout (kids gun with a 16 inch barrel) They both shoot the same right at between 1/2 inch and 1 inch five shot groups at 100 yards with either Winchester High speed, CCI mini mags or Fiocchi HV ammo.  At 200 yards they both will shoot into less than 2 inches with the same ammo from a rest.

[Victor3]

I have a CZ 453 (same as the 453 except has a set trigger) varminter and a CZ 452 Scout (kids gun with a 16 inch barrel) They both shoot the same right at between 1/2 inch and 1 inch five shot groups at 100 yards with either Winchester High speed, CCI mini mags or Fiocchi HV ammo.  At 200 yards they both will shoot into less than 2 inches with the same ammo from a rest.

 Okay........ If you say so. 

[Ultra25-06]

Thanks for all the great post. Just a little more than a month before Im back and will be looking to make my purchase. As far as the heavy vs standard barrel goes I am still leaning twords the heavy one. This gun will see any where from 50 to 500 rounds in a 1 or 2 day period, providing the whistle pigs and rock chucks are out. I used to have a 10/22 with 2 barrels I would switch between but got rid off it. It seemed the guide pin would wear/bend over time and quit working so I would always have to tinker with it. My main reason for wanting to go with a bolt and my experiance with the 527.

[Tom C.]

I have an older 452Lux. When I benched it with a now so great setup, it shot into about 1 1/8” at 100 yds. with RWS Subsonic HP. When it warms up I may go out and do some serious comparison work.

[anweis]

Here is the target, 10 shots at 25 yards, Wolf Match Target ammo.
 

[mattmillerrx]

I am thinking of getting one of those trainers like mcwoodduck has.  Mainly for the same purpose of shooting it off hand at clays, spinners, and whatever else at various ranges from 25 to 200 yards.  I have a BSA sweet 22 scope on my current 22lr and do the same with it but would be a lot more fun to do with open sites.

[anweis]

I am thinking of getting one of those trainers like mcwoodduck has.  Mainly for the same purpose of shooting it off hand at clays, spinners, and whatever else at various ranges from 25 to 200 yards.  I have a BSA sweet 22 scope on my current 22lr and do the same with it but would be a lot more fun to do with open sites.

I bought mine for training and fun (me and my daughter). We have a full stock with peep sight, removable low power scope, and Timney trigger.
Off hand: shotgun shells are easy at 25 yards, good sport at 50 (we hit 3-4 out of 5). Sitting clays are too easy at 25 and 50, we stopped shooting them.
Benched, our rifle hits .45 cal. pistol shells 5 out of 5 at 50 yards. Eggs are blown at 100 yards with boring regularity (if there is no wind).
I am now getting into flying clays (there is a big hill in front of us!!!!). I am hitting them about 1-2 times out of 5.
I am so happy with this rifle that i really don't mind the rather high price anymore.
It does need about 20 shots of fouling for settling in, and it does prefer the slow ammo, at 1050 fps.
I probably will buy another one soon, before CZ replaces them with a different model.  
I would not buy a 10/22.  Ever. I would have to purchase the 10/22 for $200, a good trigger group for $200, a good barrel for $300, and a nice stock for $200, and, after having spent $800-$900 it still would not be as nice, elegant, accurate, and reliable as a CZ 452.
  

[dwalk]

my 452 shoots nickle sized, and smaller, groups at 50 yards with ease, as the rule, NOT the exception...

[slim rem 7]

i like mine because its pretty darn accurate with cheapo ammo. an real accurate with my best ammo. slim
 kinda reminds me of dads old 22 rifle.. don t know what kind it was but if i could see the hair on a squirrel laid flat an hid best he could..he was going home with me. slim

[staffy]

 i had a 452 22 great gun changed it for a 1022 with a fancy trigger shot afox on boxing day went for the follow up shot to make sure it jamed sold it by end of janurary back to cz hogsback  stock happyness restored not impressed by the semi

[mcwoodduck]

i had a 452 22 great gun changed it for a 1022 with a fancy trigger shot afox on boxing day went for the follow up shot to make sure it jamed sold it by end of janurary back to cz hogsback  stock happyness restored not impressed by the semi

The 10/22 is a good rifle but a depending on Magizine they can be a little finicky and fickel with ammo.
I own three and they usually sit home while the Cz goes to the range or hunting.

[wsjones]

I have a standard contour 452 American in 17HMR and it shoots <1/2" at 100 yards with Hornady or Remington 17 gr ammo.  And to same point of aim.  From a good rest I've hit 3 out of 5 empty 30-06 brass at 100.  More or less astounding accuracy.  I did buy the Brooks trigger kit and install it, but otherwise stirctly factory.  Very impressive rifle.  -WSJ

[jlchucker]

I have a CZ 453 (same as the 453 except has a set trigger) varminter and a CZ 452 Scout (kids gun with a 16 inch barrel) They both shoot the same right at between 1/2 inch and 1 inch five shot groups at 100 yards with either Winchester High speed, CCI mini mags or Fiocchi HV ammo.  At 200 yards they both will shoot into less than 2 inches with the same ammo from a rest.

 Okay........ If you say so. 

I'm not surprised at the 100 yd accuracy. I've seen a friend of mine do as well with his CZ--he had a Burris 3-9 plex mounted on his.  Centerfire rifle scope with mounts high enough to clear the back sight.  The accuracy he was getting in his was done with off the gunshop shelf Winchester ammo. Can't remember which flavor, but it wasn't target-grade stuff.  Our club doesn't have, at the moment, a backstop longer than 100 yd.

[PowPow]

I hope yall ain't talking smack about the accuracy.
Based on your posts on this thread (which I did not start) I have ordered a 452 American LH. Might take a while for my gun shop to find a LH model, but it sounds like a lifetime keeper and, with both kids being LH, a potential heirloom. 
I still plan to keep my 10/22. maybe take the scope off and shoot open sights or red dot.  A friend told me you don't put a scope on a 10/22; you use a 25 rd mag instead and just keep shooting til you hit whatever it is your shooting at.

[Victor3]

I have a CZ 453 (same as the 453 except has a set trigger) varminter and a CZ 452 Scout (kids gun with a 16 inch barrel) They both shoot the same right at between 1/2 inch and 1 inch five shot groups at 100 yards with either Winchester High speed, CCI mini mags or Fiocchi HV ammo.  At 200 yards they both will shoot into less than 2 inches with the same ammo from a rest.

 Okay........ If you say so. 

I'm not surprised at the 100 yd accuracy. I've seen a friend of mine do as well with his CZ--he had a Burris 3-9 plex mounted on his.  Centerfire rifle scope with mounts high enough to clear the back sight.  The accuracy he was getting in his was done with off the gunshop shelf Winchester ammo. Can't remember which flavor, but it wasn't target-grade stuff.  Our club doesn't have, at the moment, a backstop longer than 100 yd.

 The claim was two different 22 rimfire rifles (one being a CZ Scout none the less) both getting sub-moa 5 shot groups using three different types of low-budget, non-target ammo at 100 & 200 yds.

 50 yds? Okay, I'll maybe buy that on a wind-free day. 100 yds? Aint gonna happen. 200 yds? Getting into miracle territory now.

 My BRNO Mod 4 (one rifle) with a 20x Leupold, shooting $20/box ammo (one ammo) will do <1" @ 100 yds on a wind-free day when my fortune cookie says very favorable things about me. Don't happen often though, even under ideal conditions...

[jlchucker]

I have a CZ 453 (same as the 453 except has a set trigger) varminter and a CZ 452 Scout (kids gun with a 16 inch barrel) They both shoot the same right at between 1/2 inch and 1 inch five shot groups at 100 yards with either Winchester High speed, CCI mini mags or Fiocchi HV ammo.  At 200 yards they both will shoot into less than 2 inches with the same ammo from a rest.

 Okay........ If you say so. 

I'm not surprised at the 100 yd accuracy. I've seen a friend of mine do as well with his CZ--he had a Burris 3-9 plex mounted on his.  Centerfire rifle scope with mounts high enough to clear the back sight.  The accuracy he was getting in his was done with off the gunshop shelf Winchester ammo. Can't remember which flavor, but it wasn't target-grade stuff.  Our club doesn't have, at the moment, a backstop longer than 100 yd.

 The claim was two different 22 rimfire rifles (one being a CZ Scout none the less) both getting sub-moa 5 shot groups using three different types of low-budget, non-target ammo at 100 & 200 yds.

 50 yds? Okay, I'll maybe buy that on a wind-free day. 100 yds? Aint gonna happen. 200 yds? Getting into miracle territory now.

 My BRNO Mod 4 (one rifle) with a 20x Leupold, shooting $20/box ammo (one ammo) will do <1" @ 100 yds on a wind-free day when my fortune cookie says very favorable things about me. Don't happen often though, even under ideal conditions...

Victor3, I didn't say I shot a one inch group at 100 yards--I said that I witnessed it done. I didn't say anything about 200 yards because our range doesn't have a setup for anything at that distance. I didn't say anything about a CZ scout model either--it was done with the full-size American version. There were others there that day as well--all members of the same gun club and customers of the same gun shop. I hope you're not calling me a liar!  What you do with your BRNO is irrelevant to this discussion.

[Victor3]

"I hope you're not calling me a liar!"

 Not at all. I was just disagreeing with you as far as not being "surprised at the 100 yd accuracy," because I myself was very surprised (not at your info, but at the previous poster's accuracy claims).

 My comments were directed at the claims up above, of the person who said his CZ Scout and Varmint could accomplish what he said, with the ammo he noted.

 The info on my BRNO (another CZ, just for comparison's sake) is there to show that even a dedicated target rifle setup can't often accomplish what was claimed.

 Nobody in competitive rimfire rifle circles would take seriously any claim of sub-moa 5 shot 100+ yard groups with the equipment & ammo listed because it's just not possible.

[CIG]

I have the 452 silhouette and did the brooks spring kit and gets 1" groups at 100 meters with bulk ammo.  I won the first match of the year with 26 animals against guys with custom guns and match ammo.  Can't beat this gun for the price.  We have 300 meter matches with 22 LR at buffaloes that are about 12 inches by 10.  I have seen guys hit 16 out of 20 at that range.  I shot one of those matches with this gun and hit 9 out of 20 - match ammo.  I have an air gun mount that I can adjust.  I use a 24 power scope. You can shoot a lot farther with these guns than you think.  Now if you add any real wind they go all over the place.  You really have to watch the wind flags.  Our club has a league shoot every Tuesday night for this.  I bulls eye pistol shoot instead. 

[PowPow]

Took my new 452 American to the range for the first time today.
Shot it with the bipod mostly, but from the rest I shot a 3/4" 5 shot group at 100 yards.
Su-weet.