Polanski

[MGMorden]

MGMorden
Have you considered jurisdiction that have the 3 Strikes U R out" laws ??

No, hadn't considered that one to be honest.  I guess that could do it, though I thought that most jurisdictions limited the 3 strikes to violent crimes.  The whole 3 strikes thing confuses me though.  SC (from what I recall) supposedly has that, but it HAS to be limited to that violent crime thing.  One guy in our neighborhood has been arrested and convicted so many times that it's just alarming.  Mostly just plain theft.  He and a group of his friends/cronies/whatever break into houses and businesses over and over stealing stuff to sell.  What's hilarious in a twisted sort of way is just how BAD they are at it.  They get caught. EVERY time.  Gets out of jail for a few weeks, steals again, back in the slammer again.  You'd think even if he didn't have the morals to stop that he'd have the sense to say "Hold up, I'm just not very good at this and always get caught.  I better stop or I'm just never going to stay out of jail.".  Last time he was caught on security camera stealing copper wire from a local electrical company's supply depot/shed. He hadn't been out of jail for 2 weeks, and he was back in again.  The neighborhood is safe for 6 more years now.  That's the stiffest punishment he's got yet, but at arrest #6 or 7 it makes me wonder why they just haven't tossed the key yet.

Oh well, I digress .

[MGMorden]

The guy goes to jail and the little whores crawl into some one else's bed.
                      Beerbelly

Still have to exercise control.  The bottom line is that from a physical standpoint, girls have developed to sexual maturity post-puberty, which is usually 12-13 years old.  Most don't want to admit it, but a normal healthy male will have some level of interest at that point (as opposed to when there's a true psychological disorder and one is attracted to pre-pubescent girls), mostly because all the physical cues that we're programmed to look for are there.  Breasts have developed, hips and "rear" have taken adult shape, etc.   It's basically nature's way of screaming "Baby factory online!".  There's been several studies done, often times on how young it takes for most guys to do a double-take on a girl walking past.  Not solicit a girl, try to talk to her, or what not.  Just if a physically fit girl in short shorts walks by, will a random guy turn their head for a glance.  Average minimum age at which the head would turn: 13. 

Thing is, girls at that age aren't MENTALLY ready for the emotional stress and baggage that sex brings, and as the older responsible party it's up to us to say "Wait, no, this isn't right." and walk away.  That's the difference between a normal individual and a pedophile.  The ability to conquer your base instincts and be a better man than that.

[SHOOTALL]

And for those that can't control base instincts there is the iron gate hotel or a dirt nap .

[Casull]

The guy goes to jail and the little whores crawl into some one else's bed.
                      Beerbelly

You're a sick pup.  This was no little whore, but a 13 year old who was drugged and raped.   

[beerbelly]

Yes and if you will go back and read my first post on this, I said this was rape and he should do what ever time he has coming and 15 years for escape!
  But a lot of boys go to jail when it is consensual, and the girl walks away and like I said right into some one else's bed.
                               Beerbelly

[williamlayton]

That was in 1964 and the jurisdiction was San Jacinto County Texas.
She got mad at him because after the party he would not take them home.
I went too school with the guy and the older sister.
He came through the system while I worked there until my wife finished her degree.
Blessings

[BBF]

So when he wouldn't take her home and played nice she had him by the 'nads. How fitting !!!

[Cabin4]

I believe we should let Polanski off the hook on this. After all, it’s been a long time and as they say, time heals all wounds.

So to this end, instead of the government wasting millions of tax payer dollars on prosecution of this man. Let’s have the executives and actors over in Hollywood that want him so badly agree to him setting up a child day care center right on the Hollywood Studio grounds. All the people that work on the studio grounds can send their children to the Polanski owned and operated day care center.

[BBF]

At least the Swiss have better sense then to grant this guy bail.

[Casull]

That was in 1964 and the jurisdiction was San Jacinto County Texas.
She got mad at him because after the party he would not take them home.
I went too school with the guy and the older sister.
He came through the system while I worked there until my wife finished her degree.
Blessings

That's one side of the story.  The jury heard both sides and apparently did not believe his version.  But, you know nobody in prison is guilty.   

[MGMorden]

That was in 1964 and the jurisdiction was San Jacinto County Texas.
She got mad at him because after the party he would not take them home.
I went too school with the guy and the older sister.
He came through the system while I worked there until my wife finished her degree.
Blessings

That's one side of the story.  The jury heard both sides and apparently did not believe his version.  But, you know nobody in prison is guilty.   

Not the way I understood it.  From what I interpreted what williamlayton said, the accused individual had intercourse at a party, and then when he refused to take her home after that she got mad.  If that's the case then the jury believing that or not is a moot point.  A girl that young can't legally consent so the motives behind turning him in, etc, wouldn't be an issue.  IE, his side of the story could be completely true but he'd still be guilty.

I'd say as someone who was young not THAT long ago, that trust me, girls in that age range can and do sleep around.  Usually with other teens in that age bracket, in which case the authorities generally don't much care.  Heck I knew one girl that by the age of 15 had been with at least a few dozen guys - and was also pregant at that age.  But all of them who do it with older guys (or girls - older women are just as likely to sleep with younger boys too, and it's just as illegal) were not druged or raped.  It's just that as said, even if the girl is willing, an adult should know better and walk away.  Leave the young girls to the young guys and move on.  There's plenty of attractive adult women for us .

[billy_56081]

Hasn't he already been convicted and sentenced? If so I don't believe we need to have a trial or court, just right to jail and serve sentence.

Atlaw, Duk is what I am thinking correct?

[MGMorden]

Hasn't he already been convicted and sentenced? If so I don't believe we need to have a trial or court, just right to jail and serve sentence.

Atlaw, Duk is what I am thinking correct?

He was convicted already but was never sentenced.  The convicted part is actually extremely important here because if he hadn't already been convicted then the statute of limitations would have run out on his original offense.

[AtlLaw]

Interesting question... 
If he has entered his plea and it has been accepted you'ld think you could haul him back and sentance him... and that may be so, ...

Hi-ebber,

and day always be a hi-ebber,

does his flight negate the plea?  If so, do plea negotiations begin anew?  If not, is the state still bound by their original plea offer?  If so, in light of the flight, will the judge be willing to accept the original offer? if so, will the agreed upon sentance recommendation include any possible charges arising from the flight? if not can the defendant withdraw his guilty plea? if so is the state still able and willing to try the case?  if not does he walk? andonandonandon...

Now I can give the answers to those questions based on Jawja law, but I know nothing about left coast law.     But, if y'all wish a studied opinion on the matter, for the family rate of $250 an hour I will begin my research immediately upon receipt of a retainer in an amount equal to ten hours of my time.  And since deer season is almost here I hope y'all appreciate the sacrifice I'm willing to make for you 

[SHOOTALL]

AtlLaw  , the pos ain't worth spending 25 cents on or waste your valuable legal talents on . But thanks for the offer .
 I how ever would like to ask ( for free of course ) would anyone who did what he did really make it to the judge ( in a court setting i mean ) if he had done as this POS did if it happened in the lovely state of Jawja ?

[williamlayton]

A lawyers advice is his stock in trade.
Blessings

[AtlLaw]

would anyone who did what he did really make it to the judge ( in a court setting i mean ) if he had done as this POS did if it happened in the lovely state of Jawja ?

Sure!  nowadays it would.  Remember, Jawja (Atlanta) still gettin beat up about that Barney Frank thing... 

[BBF]

you mean his latest playing the holocaust card?

[williamlayton]

The two young girls in my story were 14 and 18 (her sister)---it was not a party---they were in a bar (nice way of saying an East Texas beer joint)---they went outside with 5 guys from the bar and had sex with them, in a car. The guys wanted to go back inside and drink---the girls wanted to go home-
The guys did not bring them too the bar---they got there with someone else.
The guy that had the car would not take them home and they got pissed at HIM.
I knew the girls and their reputation.
I agree that a person should use constraint and morals---It was  a bar (read drunk).
IMO it is asking a bit much, at this point, for the guys too be thinking with their brain and not their pecker. You know where all that size comes from, don't you.
In Texas, rape is a violent crime.
Blessings

[AtlLaw]

Jawja (Atlanta) still gettin beat up about that Barney Frank thing... 

you mean his latest playing the holocaust card?

Well DUH!     All you folk talking about pervs made me misstate the individual's name.     It was LEO Frank, not that cute little Barney fellow...