Author Topic: Feral Swine (Read 2569 times)

youthpastorjon · « **on:** October 03, 2009, 03:30:58 AM »

I saw that the DEC finally put feral swine in the hunting manual this year. They state that they are a nuisance animal and may be shot anywhere and at anytime. I am curious who out there has seen these animals in their hunting excursions or knows where in the state these animals live? I would love to shoot one without going out of state. Thanks

spikehorn · « **Reply #1 on:** October 03, 2009, 04:34:17 AM »

They are in the Spafford forest In Scott N.Y. Supposedly the are rusian bores that got out of a game preserve near there. Newspaper artical last year about a guy who shot a 700lb feral up in that area.

youthpastorjon · « **Reply #2 on:** October 03, 2009, 04:54:27 AM »

Do you have an internet link to that article? I would love to read about it.

woodchukhntr · « **Reply #3 on:** October 03, 2009, 05:10:00 AM »

Cool, they are being treated as big varmints instead of having a whole bunch of regulations and a specific season. I wonder how fast they will spread? I'm in central New York state.

spikehorn · « **Reply #4 on:** October 03, 2009, 07:06:52 AM »

I don't even remember if it was the Syracuse Post Standard or the Cortland standard. A friend brought the clipping into work for me. It's my understanding that the Russian bore got out of the game preserve some where around 8-10 years ago and it was a breeding pair. The 700 lb hog they didn't think was a Russian bore the DEC thinks it was a domestic hog that went feral. When we talked to a DEC officer a couple years ago about them, he said that they are not an indigenous species and can be shot on sight all you need is a New York hunting license. woodchuckhntr where are you from? I'm from Newfield just south of Ithaca on Rt 13.

woodchukhntr · « **Reply #5 on:** October 03, 2009, 10:55:41 AM »

Whitesboro, next to Utica.

spikehorn · « **Reply #6 on:** October 03, 2009, 11:15:05 AM »

We have a hunting camp up in Turin

GeneRector · « **Reply #7 on:** October 03, 2009, 12:39:53 PM »

Howdy! May be you can help control the hog population. However, they reproduce very fast, sometimes 3 litters a year. We have a real problem with feral hogs in Texas and it does not seem to matter much how many you shoot or try to control, because there are plenty more to take their place. Take care and enjoy hunting them and keep in mind there will be plenty available in no time at all. Always, Gene

The Hermit · « **Reply #8 on:** October 03, 2009, 02:52:38 PM »

It is my understanding that the feral hogs are moving northward every year and are established up to Penn. They are very destructive in crop land, devistating crops. This past spring I found small hog tracts in the snow in the 1000 Islands area, but DEC said they must have been "escapees" from one of the local Amish farms. I did not see the animal itself. With the number of coyotes in the area, I doubt thay would last long in the winter up by the Canadian border.

The Hermit

bubba · « **Reply #9 on:** October 03, 2009, 03:07:13 PM »

Hermitt where abouts in the 1000 Islands. That is my stomping grounds

torpedoman · « **Reply #10 on:** October 03, 2009, 03:17:47 PM »

Quote from: woodchukhntr on October 03, 2009, 05:10:00 AM

Cool, they are being treated as big varmints instead of having a whole bunch of regulations and a specific season. I wonder how fast they will spread? I'm in central New York state.

like wildfire 8 or 10 per litter and 3-4 litters a yr.or more you wont be able to shoot them fast enough once they get a good start, ask texas.

youthpastorjon · « **Reply #11 on:** October 04, 2009, 01:40:16 AM »

Does anyone else know where people are serious hunting them in the state yet? Scott, NY was mentioned but anywhere else?

youthpastorjon · « **Reply #12 on:** October 04, 2009, 01:43:15 AM »

Spikehorn,
Good hunting where you are from. I lived in Candor for several years. It's great to see they opened bears in that area. I am thinking of making a road trip your way this fall.

spikehorn · « **Reply #13 on:** October 04, 2009, 03:01:14 AM »

Youthpastorjon; I,m in Newfield. The ones in Scott are the only ones I know about but I've been hearing that they are coming up from Pennsylvania. They still haven't opened bear in Tompkins county. they probably won't until some Birkenstock wearing hiker has a run in with a sow with cubs. My buddy just took a 237 pound female up near Old Forge.

youthpastorjon · « **Reply #14 on:** October 04, 2009, 07:35:06 AM »

I was thinking you were in Tiogo. My bad.

spikehorn · « **Reply #15 on:** October 04, 2009, 08:38:50 AM »

No but my buddy has permission on some land in Spencer,the only stipulation is no rifles during deer season. Haven't seen any sign of swine or bear there but plenty of Coyotes, Turkey, and Deer

ronp · « **Reply #16 on:** October 04, 2009, 12:18:58 PM »

When I was in college I used to haul waste milk and waste ice-cream at night and deliver to a "game farm" in Bridgeport, down in Madison County. They had well over 100 russian boars and used to have a pay-to-hunt operation. I think they leased almost 1000 acres. I know a few, or quite a few of the pigs escaped, and many were not captured. I was stopped several times while driving the milk truck by some of the local folks to tell me to let the owner know that his boars were tearing up their crops and to come and try to capture them. I always wonder if these are some of the boars that made their way south across the county line and have been breeding. I am not sure I would like to met up with one while bow hunting, anyway. They were pretty aggressive and could be down right nasty, at least when they were fighting for a spot at that milk/ice cream trough!

ironglow · « **Reply #17 on:** October 05, 2009, 10:32:58 AM »

Hermit is right. The reason they are being treated like varmints is because they are. They are VERY destructive and the state would rather they wouldn't become established. Don't see how they can stop it though...

youthpastorjon · « **Reply #18 on:** October 06, 2009, 11:05:11 AM »

DEC states they want them to be eradicated.

The Hermit · « **Reply #19 on:** October 06, 2009, 05:13:33 PM »

Bubba, the area I saw the tracks in was the Chaumont Barrens. I was on a coyote hunt there.

The Hermit

WNY_Whitetailer · « **Reply #20 on:** October 09, 2009, 03:54:36 PM »

So I guess the rule of thumb is....If you see one, take it out. We have the green light from the DEC...

MACHINIST · « **Reply #21 on:** October 13, 2009, 08:38:13 AM »

Quote from: WNY_Whitetailer on October 09, 2009, 03:54:36 PM

So I guess the rule of thumb is....If you see one, take it out. We have the green light from the DEC...

Thats what I have been told

ironglow · « **Reply #22 on:** October 13, 2009, 09:47:52 AM »

NMY State official hunting and trapping manual (the one you get with your hunting license). Bottom of page 20- picture of hog.
Caption says:

NOTICE: FERAL SWINE ARE A
HARMFUL, INVASIVE SPECIES.
DEC is workling to eradicate feral swine from NY's landscape.
Hunters with small game hunting privileges may shoot and
keep feral swine, at any time and in any number.

If you shoot or see a feral swine, please report it at
fwwildlf@gw.dec.state.ny.us

tarvis_55 · « **Reply #23 on:** November 02, 2009, 06:28:16 AM »

I live near the Allegany State Park. Last week the Olean Times Hearld ran a story about feral pigs in the Park, complete with pictures. There has been a lot of talk about eradicating them as fast as possible. My only problem is that you are not allowed to use centerfire rifles in the state park. And i dont believe they allow you to carry slugs in your shotgun until deer season. How are we, as sportsman, suppose to protect our lands from these invasive species if we have to try and do it with our hands tied behind our backs. Are rimfire rifles really enough to take one of these pigs?

ironglow · « **Reply #24 on:** November 02, 2009, 09:33:05 AM »

Guess they have arrived in western NY state. Allegany state park is about 60 miles south east of Buffalo on the PA line. The area where they were sighted most was Limestone,NY.. a few mile north of Bradford, PA and perhaps 15 miles west of Olean, NY.

http://www.oleantimesherald.com/articles/2009/10/26/news/doc4ae607e23fffe626880531.txt

GeneRector · « **Reply #25 on:** November 02, 2009, 09:57:57 AM »

Howdy! I don't know the hunting regs for NY and what is legal on wildlife management areas. However, after a year or two of an abundance of wild hogs (feral swine), there probably will be changes in the regs to permit taking "unlimited wild hogs by all legal methods" 365 days a year. For the time being, determine what is legal to use on the wildlife management areas you plan to hunt and if hogs can be taken. Maybe muzzleloaders can be used instead of center fire rifles, etc. Buckshot instead of slugs, etc. Although there have been lots of swine taken with 22 rimfire, I would suggest something a bit stronger than this. Hope this helps! Always, Gene

teamnelson · « **Reply #26 on:** November 02, 2009, 11:15:02 AM »

Oh ... saw the topic and thought this was about the elections, my bad!

ironglow · « **Reply #27 on:** November 06, 2009, 05:09:09 PM »

Really enjoyed that TN; If you knew the politicians we have at state level here in NY..you would be laughing out loud also...

youthpastorjon · « **Reply #28 on:** November 07, 2009, 02:11:50 PM »

Too funny guys! I hadn't even considered that my topic line "Feral Swine in NY" could be taken more than one way!

spikehorn · « **Reply #29 on:** November 08, 2009, 04:56:38 AM »

That's too funny! I was coming back from deer camp and there were all these re-elect so & so signs all along the road, then I saw this hand done sign on a tree that read " Re-elect no one; start over" It put a smile on my face!