Author Topic: rem 700 sps varmint (Read 1123 times)

tigmaned · « **on:** October 04, 2009, 01:56:48 PM »

just picked up a new Remington 700 sps varmint in 223. Dicks sporting good in York pa has them marked down $50 to $549 with cheesey 4-12 power scope and rings, leupold mount. also get a Dick's card for $20 bucks back. $40 rebate from Remington. not sure i like the od green stock but can always paint that or find a better one. the matte black finished looks nice as does the 26" heavy barrel!! well the cheap 4-12 scope is on my 10/22 for now, and my Nikon 4-14 buckmaster is on top of the 700sps varmint. now to the range!!!

Skunk · « **Reply #1 on:** October 04, 2009, 02:05:27 PM »

Nice! I have the SPS Tactical, .223, with the 20" barrel. Replaced the Hogue stock with a HS-Precision and it shoots really well. Congrats!

mcwoodduck · « **Reply #2 on:** October 04, 2009, 03:00:26 PM »

I have one with the McMillian stock.
wears a 6-24X42 Weaver scope with a 6" sun shade.
At 200 yards off the bench we can call the shot and take just the cap off of a soda bottle.
You are going to be very happy with yours.

tigmaned · « **Reply #3 on:** October 05, 2009, 12:23:12 AM »

thanks for input!!
can't wait to try it out!!
to bad my range only goes out to 100 yards?

mcwoodduck · « **Reply #4 on:** October 05, 2009, 05:32:48 AM »

100 Yard ranges are not a problem,
Just shoot smaller targets.

Gumballs or jaw breakers are fun.
Also baking potatos are a blast every punn intended.
With the 45 grain JHP rounds I use, the potato turns into a white ball about 8 to 10 feet round if you center punch them.
Hope you have fun.

tigmaned · « **Reply #5 on:** October 05, 2009, 08:04:32 AM »

gumballs, great idea!
i wonder if i'll be able to see them at 100 yards with my Nikon 4-14 power buckmaster scope???
did your groups improve with a better stock?

mcwoodduck · « **Reply #6 on:** October 05, 2009, 12:33:39 PM »

Bought mine used that way.
Know a guy that buys good stuff and likes to have something new on a regular basis. His wife only lets him have 6 firearms at a time so he trades in a lot. I have two or three of his guns.
Yes I think you should be able to see a gum ball with your scope.
At 10X it would be the same as having a gumball 10 yards away. So if you can see a gumball at 30 feet with your naked eye, you should be able to see it with your scope.
I also have a CZ 527 American in 223 it wears a 3-9X38 Weaver and accuracy is pretty good with the standard wood stock and barrel.
Add the Remington heavy barrel and you should not have an accuracy problem with a cold barrel off the bench.
It is when you are having a good time and start shooting a lot when you get a wondering round as the gun heats up.

tigmaned · « **Reply #7 on:** October 05, 2009, 02:04:17 PM »

while doing a search on stock i have found out Choate has a new tactical model on the market i think i may get or a Bell & Carlson stock.
i know the B&C stocks are more of a fiberglass material, but i am not sure about the Choate they maybe just plastic which i don't want!
i think Remington would be better off selling there sps varmint without a stock at all!! but i know some are happy with them?

Skunk · « **Reply #8 on:** October 05, 2009, 02:10:38 PM »

tigmaned,

Either of those stocks would be a huge improvement over the original stock, at a very decent price.

tigmaned · « **Reply #9 on:** October 05, 2009, 03:34:53 PM »

the more i look at stocks i think i am going to go with a Bell & Carlson light tactical model with the hook. i like shooting with my off hand pushing the stock into my shoulder anyway.
now just to find a place that has them in stock?

i am looking for a used stock also if anyone has something tactical looking that will fit let me know.
\added a metal to the inside of the empty buttstock area, she now weight in at 3 pounds, i'll see if that gets me by till i find a B&C of HS?

700 223 · « **Reply #10 on:** October 10, 2009, 05:08:36 AM »

I transferred my SPS barreled action into a HS stock:

Never fired it in the plastic factory stock but snipercentrals review of a SPS Varmint in a HS stock showed some improvement in accuracy in their .308 version. Mine is a .223.

I originally bought it for an eventual custom job but the accuracy has been exceptional using match bullet relods. Have not fired it since last year but this was the last group from 2008 and with a load it had never fired before.

It was also the first time out in a B&C Medalist tactical stock. The HS is on another 700 now. I don't have any pictures of it in the B&C stock at the moment.

diggler1833 · « **Reply #11 on:** October 12, 2009, 06:12:50 AM »

The stock swap is usually going to tighten up your groups a bit, as might bedding and working that trigger down some. I'm not a fan of B&C as I've had one show up to me that was probably canted a solid 5* on the fore end and caused me fits until I figured it out. I've had good luck and repeatability with H-S Precision stocks, and McMillan stocks on my Remmy's. That being said I'm going to try a Manners GAT probably on my next varmint caliber rifle.

tigmaned · « **Reply #12 on:** October 13, 2009, 08:00:40 AM »

range time went pretty good on monday. i sighted it in at 50 yards but when i took it to 100 yards i was pulling it into my shoulder more and my shots where going to the left about 2"

then i noticed with my Harris bi-pod and pulling it into my shoulder i could move the action inside the plastic stock way to much!!
SO i am getting a better stock asap....

diggler1833 · « **Reply #13 on:** October 13, 2009, 11:50:03 AM »

What's even better is when you shoot multiple groups on one target in each corner and your POI changes everytime you switch targets due to the flex in the stock. You can try searching the for sale section at Snipers Hide, they usually have at least a couple of Remmy 700 stocks for sale at any time.

sniperVLS · « **Reply #14 on:** October 16, 2009, 03:02:24 AM »

tigmaned , If the range permits, once you get setup with a stock you like, start sighting in @ 200 yards, that's where you start to see the real weaknesses of yourself, the rifle, ammo and your scope/mounts. We have these rifles to shoot further than normal correct? Sighting in at 100 seems futile to me when we bought these rifles for another purpose. I sight in at 300 when possible and have a drop chart in my eagle pack and an extra taped to the lid of my ammo boxes.

By the way, My rifle below started as an SPS-V, I already had the H-S Police PST-12 stock here at home but shot about 30 rounds using the plastic one. It was overall a lot more accurate than I thought it would be but it did indeed flex a lot so for that extra peace of mind and slightly tighter groups, the $200.00 spent on the H-S Precision was totally worth it.

teddy12b · « **Reply #15 on:** October 16, 2009, 04:39:24 AM »

What's the twist on that barrel?

tigmaned · « **Reply #16 on:** October 16, 2009, 04:39:38 AM »

VLS.
good to know geting a HS stock will be worth it!!
i wish i could take it out to 200 or more yards but right now the range i belong to only goes out to 100yards. i am still looking for some where else for real shooting.

sniperVLS · « **Reply #17 on:** October 16, 2009, 05:10:56 AM »

Teddy, I believe it's a 1:12", check Remmys website to be certain but I think I'm correct.

tigmaned: I don't want to come across as thinking/saying anything around 100 yds isn't real shooting, that wasn't my intention. But if you want to get in some serious range time and become proficient with your 700, I believe that whatever situation makes you aware of any weaknesses in your shooting setup, the more you'll learn in the long run and be better overall. Confidence is a huge part of it, there are days when I just suck and instead of wasting ammo I pack it up and leave. I'm sure some here will admit to having those days.

Also, I don't shoot 3 rounds and call it quits. I shoot a minimum of 5 and sometimes 7 and 8 to see how I shoot after being stressed out for longer periods of time. It's 2 easy 2 pull three rounds off and be proud of a tight group. Shoot 5 - 10 and if its still a tight group, now ya got something to be proud of.

Bowling pins are a good test. Stand 1 up and hit it as many times as possible. Assuming you hit it that 1st time and knock it over, your target becomes very small as its now laying on its side. If you can make it spin 5 or 6 times in a row at 200yds, pat yourself on the back

Also, hug your rifle hahahha, I do all the time.

tigmaned · « **Reply #18 on:** October 16, 2009, 09:42:41 AM »

VLS
i didn't take it that way at all, i do wish i could really test my rifle out at a longer range.
so tell me what scope do you have on top of your remmy?

sniperVLS · « **Reply #19 on:** October 16, 2009, 02:21:52 PM »

The pic shows it when I had a Bushnell Elite 4200 6-24, now it has a Vortex Viper 6.5-20 atop it. OI go thru scopes like crazy

This rifle has had 4 models on it in 3 years. My other rifles have had just as many. I may revert back to Super Sniper and try their new 3-9 variable I've been waiting for.

tigmaned · « **Reply #20 on:** October 16, 2009, 02:51:24 PM »

4200 series, how do you like them? i have Nikon 4-14 on mine right now but thinking a bout 20x super sniper or a little money the 3200 10x bushnell??
i have HS stock on the way.

sniperVLS · « **Reply #21 on:** October 16, 2009, 03:02:58 PM »

I had the 3200 10X and its an awesome scope, especially for the price! That was the 1st scope I had on this rifle. I love all the Elite models, built like tanks and prices are good for what ya get.

diggler1833 · « **Reply #22 on:** October 16, 2009, 04:27:01 PM »

the 3200 10x is the best cheaper tactical scope out there. From there up in price you can't beat the SS, although I'd go 10x or maybe 16x instead of the 20x if I were to put one on a .308. The smaller exit pupil and chance to have mirage affect the sight picture isn't worth the couple of extra power. One thing to consider when setting a .308 to shoot is that at some point you may want to stretch it out to 1K. Needing either a base with 20-30MOA built into it or a scope with a buttload (technical term) of adjustment built into it will become necessary. The 3200 might just make it to 1K without the base, but the SS for sure will provided your rifle wasn't built by the blind that particular day at the factory.

The Nikon 4-14 is more than enough, although Nikons are known for good glass, hit or miss CS, and rather limited internal adjustment.

tigmaned · « **Reply #23 on:** October 16, 2009, 11:57:25 PM »

my 700spsV is in 223 but i don't think that really matter when looking at scopes?
i like the looks of the bushnell 3200 10x with the target knobs. but is the 3200 series alot better than the cheaper scope which to me seem like well, crap.

sniperVLS · « **Reply #24 on:** October 17, 2009, 03:28:56 AM »

diggler brought up a good point about internal adjustment and unfortunately, the 4200's and 6500's lack it when it comes to getting out to 1,000. I believe the Vortex scopes have more internal adjustment and like diggler said, the Super Snipers are known for having plenty. The 10X 3200 is an awesome scope that you simply will not be able to find fault with at that price point. Get it and don't look back. Its glass is very clear, the turrets work wonderfully and it tracks perfectly.

Slap that 3200 elite on your .223 and enjoy

tigmaned · « **Reply #25 on:** October 17, 2009, 03:17:14 PM »

how about the SS 20x swfa has a one for a good price used.

sniperVLS · « **Reply #26 on:** October 17, 2009, 05:28:48 PM »

Have you used a scope before with such a magnification? You'll run into complications such as mirages and the crosshairs flipping around a little more and with a 20x, pray you never have to shoot at anything close cuz the entire field of view will be taken up by the object and you won't be able to tell it's ass from its head.

Is this a target rifle only? If it's going to double as a hunting rifle, I say No to a 20X fixed. If it's just for long range targets, give it a try. They have a very high resale value so you'll get your $$ back if you want something different later on.

teddy12b · « **Reply #27 on:** October 19, 2009, 10:26:10 AM »

I like the Bushnell Elite 3200 10x and have it on a savage predator in 223. Without any MOA on the base or rings that scope has enough adjustment to get out to 800 yards. For a 223 shooting a 69gr matchking that's a lot of adjustment.

The nikon 4.5-14x is also a good scope and I use one a 30-06, but with a Badger 20MOA to get out to 1000 yards. The buckmaster has 50 MOA of internal adjustment.

tigmaned · « **Reply #28 on:** October 19, 2009, 01:53:40 PM »

thanks for all the input on the 10x.
i think i am going to try a Bushnell elite 3200 10x.
my 700spsv shot alot better in the HS fiberglass stock, i couldn't move a thing in this stock!! best money spent!!
also thinking about cuting down the 26" barrel to 20" like the tactical models.