need some info. on 30/06 loads

[wind drift]

Wanting to try some 200gr. accubonds in my pro hunter have any of yall tried these and what worked best as far as power,primers,and brass.THANKS

[Wyo. Coyote Hunter]

  I haven't tried this bullet in my 06'. In fact haven't developed any 06 loads for more than 30 years, but when I shot one a lot, I liked IMR4350 and a cci mag. primer. Of course it was not with Accubonds. They are probably much more accurate than the bullets of that era. Check your manual, and try a few loads, that is the only way to have an accurate load...

[BBF]

I had a look into the Nosler Manual#5 and checked to see what powders would give you the highest Load Density for a 200 gr bullet. Of couse this being a Nosler Manual the listing is for their 200 gr PT.

I'll list the powders that give you at least 90% with their max loads.

 RL-19,    IMR 4831,  AA 3100,  Viht N-160,    RL-22

I'm sure there are more powders. My all time favorite for the 200 gr Speer bullet was 58.0 gr of H-4831 for my rifle!!

[OR-E-Gun Bill]

Nosler has a bit of reloading data on their website for the 30-06 Springfield 200 gr. AccuBonds.

http://www.nosler.com/index.php?p=15&b=30cal&s=138

Not exactly like having the Nosler manual but...


Bill

[kiddekop]

Wanting to try some 200gr. accubonds in my pro hunter have any of yall tried these and what worked best as far as power,primers,and brass.THANKS

I used Nosler 180gr Accubond Blems in my 300 win mag Sako Finnsport rifle for a successful cow elk hunt on the San Carlos Apache Indian Reservation in 2006 .Nosler said one can use the load data for partitions to load  accubonds! I purchased the 6th edition Nosler Reloading Guide.For Blems check www.shootersproshop.com at top of page is a block with search type in bulk bullets which will open other sites for  their bullets,etc. & www.bivwak.com noslers auction site where they're auctioning off 100 guns this month.

[kiddekop]

Nosler has a bit of reloading data on their website for the 30-06 Springfield 200 gr. AccuBonds.

http://www.nosler.com/index.php?p=15&b=30cal&s=138

Not exactly like having the Nosler manual but...


Bill

200 gr Accubond 6th edition Nosler reloading guide lists the most accurate loads which aren't always the max load,I've checked out their data finding it was right on with accuracy in my Sako 06 & 300wm.imr4320 max accurate load 47gr;imr4350 49gr most accurate;imr4831 51gr;h414 53gr max load;w760 52gr max;AA3100 max 56gr;Hunter 52.5gr mid load most accurate; RL19 52gr most accurate powder tested;Viht N160 53gr most accurate load tested & RL22 54gr. I use IMR 4831 in my sako 06 (5 shot group at 100 yds from the bench under 7/16 inch) & sako 300wm has dropped mule deer and elk longest shot was in colorado at a huge muley doe over 625 yards.

[kiddekop]

Wanting to try some 200gr. accubonds in my pro hunter have any of yall tried these and what worked best as far as power,primers,and brass.THANKS

According to a former WW2 combat veteran &  hunter in our gun club told me the best all around bullet for the 30-06 is the 165gr.A friend fires Nosler 165gr Solid Base lead tip bullets in his 300 Weatherby Mag for Colorado Elk,Mule Deer & Black Bear successfully!

[wind drift]

kiddekop thanks for all the info. on the 06 but i have a 308 that shoots the 165 great and according to the ballistic off the back of nosler custom trophy grade they are the same.I really want to try some 200 in the 06 because i dont think the 308 can keep up with the 06 when using the bigger bullet so i guess i just need to shut up and get some and see what works.THANKS

[kiddekop]

kiddekop thanks for all the info. on the 06 but i have a 308 that shoots the 165 great and according to the ballistic off the back of nosler custom trophy grade they are the same.I really want to try some 200 in the 06 because i dont think the 308 can keep up with the 06 when using the bigger bullet so i guess i just need to shut up and get some and see what works.THANKS

noslers 6th only goes to 180gr for the 308 ,I compared the 180 in 06 using my favorite powder imr 4831 max 57gr 2763fps with 308  imr 4831 max 50gr  2650fps.Some variables Nosler doesn't indicate if they fire their test loads primer down which can  improve velocity.

[BBF]

Wind drift:
If you are in the experimenting mood you could try out Hornady's 190 gr BTSP( #3085) with a B.C. of 0.491 and
26-2700 fps MV it would make a formidable load.

[kiddekop]

Wind drift:
If you are in the experimenting mood you cold try out Hornady's 190 gr BTSP( #3085) with a B.C. of 0.491 and
26-2700 fps MV it would make a formidable load.

I contacted Hornaday to find out if they  sell their blems they said they do but one must come to grand isle ,nebraska to buy them then I asked why aren't they selling them on line like nosler as I use their bullets but i'd like to have access to their blems!

[Larry Gibson]

Wanting to try some 200gr. accubonds in my pro hunter have any of yall tried these and what worked best as far as power,primers,and brass.THANKS

Ask yourself; is the 200 gr accubond (made for magnum velocities) really the best choice for the 2650-2700 fps (if you have a 24"+ barrel) maximum safe muzzle velocity you will get for your hunting conditions?  Consider that it may be, under your hunting conditions, too much of a "premium" bullet for the '06.  I do know that the Hornady 190 SPBT and the Speer 200 gr SP HotCor) perform very well at '06 velocities across the normal hunting range that most big game are shot with in.

Larry Gibson

[wind drift]

Larry, all i have heard the past 3 weeks is try the acc. bonds,swift siccrco,or the barnes tsx at this point i dont know where to start.I have allways shot the hor.165btsp out of my 308 for deer and they have never failed. I really want to find a bullet that will perform well on elk out of the 30/06 that is heavier than the 165 with alot more thump to it.THANKS 

[Wyo. Coyote Hunter]

  Winddrift. I have shot though both shoulders of a large elk with 180 grain Nosler Part. This was with a 300, but it would do fine in an 06. Plus the 200 grain Part. will really penetrate when driven at top speed, again, I was shooting my old .300... Companies are trying to duplicate what Nosler did 50 years ago..ln my opinion....   

[Larry Gibson]

Larry, all i have heard the past 3 weeks is try the acc. bonds,swift siccrco,or the barnes tsx at this point i dont know where to start.I have allways shot the hor.165btsp out of my 308 for deer and they have never failed. I really want to find a bullet that will perform well on elk out of the 30/06 that is heavier than the 165 with alot more thump to it.THANKS 

Might ask yourself how many elk have been killed in the last 100 years with an '06 using "regular" cup and core bullets?.  Also ask yourself if "bullet failure is really a reality if quality cup and core bullets are used.  Also remember that many of the newer "premium" bullets are designed around the gawd awefull magnums that have come out in the last few years.  Elk have not gotten any harder to kill.  I have killed 3 elk with 180 Nosler partitions, 8 elk with Hornady 180 gr SPBTs (from 20 paces to 478 yards), 2 elk with the Hornady 190 gr SPBTs and 2 elk with the Speer 200 SP HotCor, all out of my '06s.  I also have killed 3 elk with the .308W using the 165 Hornady BTSP.  All of those bullets were made for '06 velocities and they all work very well in the '06.  The oly time I had "bullet failure" was when the core of a Hornady 180 gr SPBT seperate from the jacket that I had recovered from under the hide on the offside shoulder.  The seperation occured with the expanded bullet in my pocket as I was back packing the elk out of Sterling Gulcj in the Chesnimus Unit in NE Oregon.  I emailed Hornady about it telling them that there bullets failed as they were not "pocket proof".  They thought it was funny, so did I.  Standard quality bullets work fine on elk out of and '06.  If I had a dollar for every elk a CoreLok, PowerPoint or SilverTip has killed I'd take both go on a grand 30 day African Safari:-)

Larry Gibson