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Republicans are selling us out, aren't they?
« on: October 10, 2009, 02:39:13 AM »
I haven't read the details of the news yet, but from what I hear on public radio, there's definite bi-partisan support for a senate "health care" bill now. Isn't there?

What the heck do we do now? If any of the republicans vote for this stuff, then the whole party is incriminated and we cannot vote for them.
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Re: Republicans are selling us out, aren't they?
« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2009, 02:52:47 AM »
They are going to do what they want regardless what we want or say.
All we can do is tell everyone and vote them out of office come November!


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Re: Republicans are selling us out, aren't they?
« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2009, 05:51:12 AM »
The following are some details from today's Bloomberg. See the last sentence before reading about the wonderful consensus that Adolph Hussein Hitler is claiming. I find it amusing that Schwartzenegger is cited as a good example in this article. The state of California is worse than bankrupt.


Obama Says Congress Reaching ‘Historic Moment’ on Health Care
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By Kate Andersen Brower

Oct. 10 (Bloomberg) -- President Barack Obama said his plan to overhaul the U.S. health-care system has gained momentum in Congress where lawmakers are approaching a “historic moment” in crafting the legislation.

Obama said his push for a bill was aided by the Congressional Budget Office’s report that the version being considered by the Senate Finance Committee would trim the federal deficit while insuring millions more people. He also cited endorsements of his effort by prominent current and former Republican officeholders, such as California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger.

“What’s remarkable is not that we’ve had a spirited debate about health insurance reform, but the unprecedented consensus that has come together behind it,” Obama said in his weekly address on the radio and Internet. “Now is the time to rise above the politics of the moment.”

The Senate finance panel’s $829 billion plan would cut the deficit by $81 billion over 10 years, with new taxes and savings more than offsetting the measure’s cost, the CBO said in a preliminary analysis released Oct. 7. It would continue to reduce the deficit in the subsequent decade, the CBO said, though the nonpartisan agency said it couldn’t give precise figures.

The panel’s legislation would require that millions of Americans purchase health insurance, impose new restrictions on insurers, and tax high-end insurance plans.

Supporters

Obama said revamping health care has gained broad support from leaders such as New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, an independent, and Republicans Schwarzenegger, Bob Dole and Bill Frist, both former Senate majority leaders, and Tommy Thompson, who was Health and Human Services secretary under President George W. Bush. Bloomberg is founder and majority owner of Bloomberg LP, parent of Bloomberg News.

“These distinguished leaders understand that health insurance reform isn’t a Democratic issue or a Republican issue, but an American issue that demands a solution,” Obama said. He said they are joining doctors and nurses and representatives of the hospital and drug industries who already have expressed their support.

The Senate Finance Committee, the last of five congressional committees working on proposals, plans to vote on its bill Oct. 13, according to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid. The legislation will be combined with a separate Senate version approved by the chamber’s health committee in July. Three House committees have also acted.

Republican Address

In the Republican address, Senator George LeMieux of Florida said the Democratic-backed health-care plans would cost at least $1.8 trillion over 10 years and will take nearly $500 billion out of Medicare funding.

“Taking money from a program already in financial trouble is not responsible; it’s not fair to our seniors who paid into the program and it’s not fair to our children and grandchildren who will be burdened with massive debt obligations,” he said.

LeMieux said the overhaul would force millions of people onto Medicaid, the state and federal insurance program for the poor. He said that will add a burden on state governments.

“Piling on additional obligations would mean even more severe cuts to roads, schools, law enforcement and other essential state services,” he said.

LeMieux said requiring all Americans to purchase health- care insurance would add “a new tax burden” for people who can’t afford it. Every adult would be charged a $750 penalty if they don’t buy health insurance, LeMieux said. That would break a promise Obama made not to raise taxes on families earning less than $250,000 a year.

“If it looks like a tax, and it’s paid like a tax, then it is a tax, plain and simple,” he said.

Democrats are working on the legislation without Republican input and are rushing toward a resolution, LeMieux said.

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Re: Republicans are selling us out, aren't they?
« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2009, 06:04:20 AM »
The Re-Pumpkin-Lins are all mostly idiots. Not as bad as the Dump-O-Crats though.
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Re: Republicans are selling us out, aren't they?
« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2009, 06:29:37 AM »
I haven't read the details of the news yet, but from what I hear on public radio, there's definite bi-partisan support for a senate "health care" bill now. Isn't there?

What the heck do we do now? If any of the republicans vote for this stuff, then the whole party is incriminated and we cannot vote for them.

They have BEEN selling us out for years. Remember when GW was elected, and the left said he was in the pocket of the NRA? What a bunch of BS! What did he ever do for the gun owners? How about John McCain? Just another gun grabbing Liberal.(BI-PARTASAN) I hate that term! The left would have won with either Obama or McCain in office. As long as we keep voting in the same bunch of criminals, nothing will change, and the majority of voters will continue to do just that.Either Liberal Democrats or Liberal Republicans.Got to get that Bi-partisanship going, you know!

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Re: Republicans are selling us out, aren't they?
« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2009, 07:01:51 AM »
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They have BEEN selling us out for years. Remember when GW was elected, and the left said he was in the pocket of the NRA? What a bunch of BS! What did he ever do for the gun owners? How about John McCain? Just another gun grabbing Liberal.(BI-PARTASAN) I hate that term! The left would have won with either Obama or McCain in office.



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During the run-up to the 2000 presidential election Bush promised to sign an extension of the "assault" weapons ban if congress passed it.  MCain teamed up with that Leiberman creep to propose a draconian "gun show loophole" bill.   


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Re: Republicans are selling us out, aren't they?
« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2009, 08:50:02 AM »
The Re-Pumpkin-Lins are all mostly idiots. Not as bad as the Dump-O-Crats though.

Cabin4, we mostly agree on issues as of late, but how bad is bad enough? The only difference here in Republican and Democrat, is VELOCITY TO HELL. I personally don't want to go at any speed.
Everyone needs to accept the fact that NEITHER is worth a damn, and stop voting for the lessor of. If American's collectively vote Republican, i.e. the lessor of two evils, the damage done by Obama will NEVER BE UNDONE. Ever! It will only be added to.
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Re: Republicans are selling us out, aren't they?
« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2009, 10:06:28 AM »
What rebublican?? Were did you find one??
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Re: Republicans are selling us out, aren't they?
« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2009, 06:46:45 AM »
The Re-Pumpkin-Lins are all mostly idiots. Not as bad as the Dump-O-Crats though.

Cabin4, we mostly agree on issues as of late, but how bad is bad enough? The only difference here in Republican and Democrat, is VELOCITY TO HELL. I personally don't want to go at any speed.
Everyone needs to accept the fact that NEITHER is worth a damn, and stop voting for the lessor of. If American's collectively vote Republican, i.e. the lessor of two evils, the damage done by Obama will NEVER BE UNDONE. Ever! It will only be added to.

HUH????

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Re: Republicans are selling us out, aren't they?
« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2009, 06:53:44 AM »
The Re-Pumpkin-Lins are all mostly idiots. Not as bad as the Dump-O-Crats though.

Cabin4, we mostly agree on issues as of late, but how bad is bad enough? The only difference here in Republican and Democrat, is VELOCITY TO HELL. I personally don't want to go at any speed.
Everyone needs to accept the fact that NEITHER is worth a damn, and stop voting for the lessor of. If American's collectively vote Republican, i.e. the lessor of two evils, the damage done by Obama will NEVER BE UNDONE. Ever! It will only be added to.

HUH????


What’s the Huh all about? Both parties are mostly inhabited by jackasses who have abandoned our constitution and founding principles. With few exceptions.
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Re: Republicans are selling us out, aren't they?
« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2009, 07:04:48 AM »
can't you read between the lines ????

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Re: Republicans are selling us out, aren't they?
« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2009, 07:11:26 AM »
Apparently not. I'm not 100% perceptive, 100% of the time.
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Re: Republicans are selling us out, aren't they?
« Reply #12 on: October 12, 2009, 07:16:10 AM »
Cabin4 in his simple little way he is trying to harass me. It has nothing to do with you or really anything else.
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Re: Republicans are selling us out, aren't they?
« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2009, 08:17:27 AM »
Cabin4 in his simple little way he is trying to harass me. It has nothing to do with you or really anything else.

Got it... thanks.
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Re: Republicans are selling us out, aren't they?
« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2009, 04:31:35 PM »
"BI-PARTASAN" Another way of saying, "We're all going to get screwed."

It seems like as of late, almost every time the Demicans and the Republicrats
agree on a piece of legislation it ends up having a negative effect on the country.
I just don't trust them anymore.

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