Author Topic: Anyone made a 8 or 10 inch mortar lately? (Read 2544 times)

entsminger · « **on:** October 13, 2009, 06:47:44 AM »

Has anyone like the Fredericksons or Dominik made a large 8 or 10 inch mortar recently?

Scott

Double D · « **Reply #1 on:** October 13, 2009, 06:48:56 AM »

Scott, the bowling ball mortars all fit this description.

cannonmn · « **Reply #2 on:** October 13, 2009, 06:56:05 AM »

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Fredericksons

Where are they located, haven't heard of 'em.

One person who made a full-scale M1841 (?) 8" mortar was Tim, who is the caretaker at Ft. Shenandoah, VA., the NSSA range. You might check with him, he had it up for sale not too long ago.

entsminger · « **Reply #3 on:** October 15, 2009, 03:44:40 AM »

The Fredericksons live in Minnesota. Freddy Frederickson has made an 8 and a 10 inch 1861 siege mortar reproduction in his own shop except for the pouring of the barrel which he had done at a foundry. He has a vertical lathe that can accomadate a 10 inch mortar barrel not to mention a shop that looks like Home Depo.tool section. I haven't heard from him in years to see if he's made any more. I know Hern Iron works has made an 8 and could make a 10 inch 1861 repro but it would cost about 8-10 thousand which is more than I can afford.

Scott

entsminger · « **Reply #4 on:** October 15, 2009, 03:48:22 AM »

Ok, let me rephrase that. Has anyone made a 10 inch 1861 siege mortar reproduction lately. Dominick?? How big have you gotten with your's?? If I remember correctly you were making smaller versions?

Scott

cannonmn · « **Reply #5 on:** October 15, 2009, 04:10:01 AM »

Here's all I could find on Freddy:

http://www.last.fm/music/Freddy+Fredrickson

KABAR2 · « **Reply #6 on:** October 15, 2009, 04:22:34 AM »

There used to be a website up showing the wood form he built for casting the tube, Photo's of him working on the casting,

and the finished mortar on it's mount, I will check my old computer and see if I saved the link, I tried a search and didn't find anything.

Double D · « **Reply #7 on:** October 15, 2009, 05:08:32 AM »

Quote from: cannonmn on October 13, 2009, 06:56:05 AM

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Fredericksons

Where are they located, haven't heard of 'em.

One person who made a full-scale M1841 (?) 8" mortar was Tim, who is the caretaker at Ft. Shenandoah, VA., the NSSA range. You might check with him, he had it up for sale not too long ago.

I believe he was asking about $5000 for the mortar. He did post the mortar for sale on our classifieds.

His ad was removed for noncompliance with board rules.

entsminger · « **Reply #8 on:** October 15, 2009, 05:28:06 AM »

I've got lot's of pictures I can post of Frederickson and his mortar and shop ( that I think I posted a long time ago) if anyone is interested. I was hoping by now he would be posting stuff here on what he's made but I guess not?
Scott

claypipe · « **Reply #9 on:** October 24, 2009, 09:16:28 PM »

I was on the set of "Jonah Hex" a month, or so, ago. The props department sculpted a 10" seacoast mortar with base out of styrofoam. And when they were done, you would have swore it was the real thing at two feet away! Great fun, hard work. 45 hours in three days!

Claypipe

Cat Whisperer · « **Reply #10 on:** October 25, 2009, 01:46:35 AM »

Quote from: claypipe on October 24, 2009, 09:16:28 PM

I was on the set of "Jonah Hex" a month, or so, ago. The props department sculpted a 10" seacoast mortar with base out of styrofoam. And when they were done, you would have swore it was the real thing at two feet away! Great fun, hard work. 45 hours in three days!

Claypipe

Claypipe -

Good to hear from you!

Styrofoam?

We'll see that on mythbusters next!

KABAR2 · « **Reply #11 on:** October 25, 2009, 02:15:47 AM »

Quote from: claypipe on October 24, 2009, 09:16:28 PM

. The props department sculpted a 10" seacoast mortar with base out of styrofoam.

Claypipe

Sounds like the Airborne light infantry model for two man carry.....

Rickk · « **Reply #12 on:** October 26, 2009, 01:26:58 PM »

Hey Claypipe, welcome back fellow Taxachusettsian ;-)

rays89 · « **Reply #13 on:** November 07, 2009, 01:39:49 PM »

If you go to he Irishman's site Brooks-Usa, he has some smaller barrels of the seacoast motars. While they aren't huge and are only barrels. I made a few of them and they did come out very nice. I do have one of Dominick's Golfball size seacoast mortars. And that is a keeper and not for sale

Ray

entsminger · « **Reply #14 on:** November 12, 2009, 07:26:47 AM »

Hey Dominick, if you're reading this can you tell me what's the biggest sea coast style mortar you've made now? Are you ever planning on making a 10 inch 1865 siege mortar ever?Last I heard only Hern Iron works or Paulson Brothers was making an 8'' for sale.

Scott

RocklockI · « **Reply #15 on:** November 12, 2009, 01:47:16 PM »

Scott , "I know where there is an 11" flower pot ,that used to be a mortar . It still servicable too , but its a French Mortar on a very nice base ,practicly brand new to ,it is a repo but I would dare say you would own the free worlds Largest Known Privatly Owned Muzzle Loading Mortar in the country !

Uses easily avalable projetiles It was cleaverly designed and can be SINGLE HANDED if need be . Economical too !

BUT WAIT THATS NOT all Scott ! Its TWO FOR ONE

......it can and will put a bowling balling into deep space with only 1/2 lb of powder . One just pasted Neptune ! The Cut Bank Butterscotch Ball .

I would be happy to tell you where it is and who owns it ,BUT as he is known to troll the site it wont take long for a response. I think it may came with it's own trailer too , Brand New Too . Only 2K miles on a shakedown run . Trun Key all the way !!!! Let me know ?

Gary

seacoastartillery · « **Reply #16 on:** November 12, 2009, 02:23:40 PM »

Gary, we are pretty sure Scott is limiting his search to a 10" Siege Mortar, M1861, but if we are incorrect about that, he or anyone can always call us anytime for info on what is currently available. Phone number is at the bottom of our Home page under "Contact us".

Tracy and Mike

RocklockI · « **Reply #17 on:** November 12, 2009, 02:45:55 PM »

Quote from: seacoastartillery on November 12, 2009, 02:23:40 PM

Gary, we are pretty sure Scott is limiting his search to a 10" Siege Mortar, M1861, but if we are incorrect about that, he or anyone can always call us anytime for info on what is currently available. Phone number is at the bottom of our Home page under "Contact us".

Tracy and Mike

Scott you wont be sorry !

Tracy I will acept your Visser book as a finder fee . thanks Gary

entsminger · « **Reply #18 on:** November 16, 2009, 07:38:24 AM »

Gary, we are pretty sure Scott is limiting his search to a 10" Siege Mortar, M1861,

==Scott==
Seacoast is right, I am only interested in a 10 or 13 inch 1861 seige mortar. I had thought that by now surely someone other than Paulson Brothers or Fredericksons might have made one?? I guess not..

GGaskill · « **Reply #19 on:** November 17, 2009, 02:44:25 PM »

So do you still have the other end of the propane tank?

entsminger · « **Reply #20 on:** November 18, 2009, 04:39:33 AM »

I haven't cut the tank in half yet. Before I do that I need to find a way to hoist the dang thing in the air so I can move it around more easily into a better position to weld the barrel and front plate on. I recently saw this huge engine hoist like apparatus at Harbor Freight Tools for about $500. It's like a giant I-beam adjustable engine lift that could easily lift the tank if outfitted with a strong hoist which I have. . I haven't got the $500 at the moment to get it though.
I'm still suprised that no one one here has made a 1861 10 inch mortar yet??I thought by now they would be everywhere? I'm also suprised that Freddy Frederickson isn't on this site yet. The guy has made an 8 and a 10 inch mortar pretty much at home. He does or at least he and his sons shot them all the time. He's amazing. Maybe he's into something else now?

Scott

guardsgunner · « **Reply #21 on:** November 18, 2009, 10:17:07 AM »

Might look at Ebay. http://cgi.ebay.com/Civil-War-Cannon_W0QQitemZ280424484096QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item414a9a0d00

GGaskill · « **Reply #22 on:** November 18, 2009, 11:01:54 AM »

A little undersize (15" dia vs 16" dia, 8.75" trunnions vs 10" trunnions.) Looks nice though.

Strange bore size (8.75"); kind of loose for bowling balls although they would work.

entsminger · « **Reply #23 on:** November 19, 2009, 02:34:49 AM »

Wow, the first one I have seen on e-bay! He says he made it?? Gotta find out more. It is undersized though so that would probably be a big no if I was to think of buying it. If they went to the trouble of making one that big, why not do it full size?

Thanks
Scott

little seacoast · « **Reply #24 on:** November 20, 2009, 03:11:40 AM »

Hi Entsminger, I talked with this guy yesterday about his mortar, thinking i might be interested in hocking my soul and buying it (i own a cheap soul). He has built this along the lines you were considering with a propane tank outer shell and a 8.5" ID sleeve of 3/8" steel inside. The space betweeen the two is filled with steel spacing blocks and concrete. He made a powder chamber for it of 3/4" wall thickness steel tubing. Total weight with carriage about 500 lbs. He says he has shot it six or seven times but has no idea if it meets anyone's standards of safety or construction. I don't know either. Nice looking piece but I think that I'll pass for now, feeling pretty frugal. Regards, LS

entsminger · « **Reply #25 on:** November 20, 2009, 05:05:43 AM »

Hey Little Seacoast thanks for the investigation! It's interesting that someone did something similar to what I would do but I would never consider shooting such a cannon. I'm just making mine for looks. I would be very cautious about even shooting a newly made solid version made of ductile steel much less a cannon made with just some kind of liner. I know Hern Iron works makes and 8 inch 1861 mortar of gray iron for about $5000 and said they would make a 10 for about $7000 plus the cost of the pattern which would be about $1000 but I don't have that kind of money.

Scott

GGaskill · « **Reply #26 on:** November 20, 2009, 08:42:51 AM »

Without knowing all of the dimensions of the powder chamber, it sounds like it is not thick enough to meet the chamber wall = bore diameter rule. Too bad.

little seacoast · « **Reply #27 on:** November 21, 2009, 06:54:06 AM »

HI Ent, This gentleman e-mailed me last night with the info that "I just read the mortar construction rules and it does comply." Best regards, Pete