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Re: Another Obama accomplishment
« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2009, 11:25:37 AM »
BO, the gift that keeps on giving    :D   :'(
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Re: Another Obama accomplishment
« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2009, 11:38:24 AM »
What would you expect from a Nobel POS winner....
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Re: Another Obama accomplishment
« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2009, 11:46:38 AM »
I can't help but wonder if this isn't part of an elaborate plan to develop some sort of one world currency, part of the new world order we've heard mentioned before.  I also have to wonder if the US is finished as a world leader, or even as a nation.   I'm certainly no economist, but even I know this can't be good.
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Re: Another Obama accomplishment
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2009, 11:57:53 AM »
GH1, I think you're right on the money (no pun intended)

We're on a slippery slope and BO is WD-40ing the toboggan
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Re: Another Obama accomplishment
« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2009, 12:04:13 PM »
While not being an Obama fan, I doubt that he is solely responsible for this debacle in our economy. We were on a fast track for economic failure already. Have you forgotten the Bush bailouts at the end of his term. They were a trillion dollar boondoggle, and when the Congress and the Senate said no to the auto bailouts, Bush did it with an executive order.
He continues to accelerate the painful descent down economically, but is not the root cause.
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Re: Another Obama accomplishment
« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2009, 12:10:13 PM »
Dee, you are right. But in politics the guy that's in office when something goes well gets the credit and the guy in office when things go wrong gets the blame.

Under GW Bush the dollar practically collapsed vis a vis the euro between 2000 and 2004, dropping about 25% in value.
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Re: Another Obama accomplishment
« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2009, 12:14:37 PM »
The dollar has been dropping but, it has dropped since Obama's Roosevelt type strategy like a lead balloon. With Brenakie getting credit the Euro and the Yen passed the dollar yesterday as the preferred currency. The world is beginning to move, while under Obama's RULE, we are continually and steadily loosing ground faster and faster.
He is publishing propaganda which the stock market and others foolishly believe.
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Re: Another Obama accomplishment
« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2009, 12:18:04 PM »
Agreed, Dee.
This has been a long time in the works, BO just is so much more open and blatant about what his bosses are telling him to do.
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Re: Another Obama accomplishment
« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2009, 12:26:40 PM »
That's exactly right Trib. Obama is basically doing everything he said he'd do. Americans that voted for him just didn't read between the lines, and ignored his past, and now he controls their perilous future.
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Re: Another Obama accomplishment
« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2009, 12:56:13 PM »
While not being an Obama fan, I doubt that he is solely responsible for this debacle in our economy. We were on a fast track for economic failure already. Have you forgotten the Bush bailouts at the end of his term. They were a trillion dollar boondoggle, and when the Congress and the Senate said no to the auto bailouts, Bush did it with an executive order.
He continues to accelerate the painful descent down economically, but is not the root cause.
Dee,
I went to school and graduated with a polital science and economics degrees.
Everything I ever learned in Micro or Macro Econ to get an economy going the president is doing exactly the opposite.
We could turn around the consumer part of the economy by having him do two things.
1 say he is going to have an across the board tax cut of 5%. 
this would cut costs of goods by lowering the cost to produce the goods.
With costs reduced more people can be employed and he can turn arounf the huge numbers of lay offs.
with lower prices and more people working more demand for goods will increase.
with more people working and investing more tax dollars will be created and he can do his stupid social programs

2 Tell the states that they are not allowed to steal the tax cut like they did under George Bush.
When the last tax cut came states like CA increased thier taxes by at least what the government gave back.  So net result was less take home for larger states after the federal tax cut.

3 there  is nothing that the government can do to provide jobs, income, or products that are not going to be a loss to the private sector, done as efficiently as the private sector or as cheaply as the provate sector.

4 social programs only hurt the economy-  they take needed $ from the private sector and give them to government that has too many layers and the same $1 is turned into .20 of goods where in the private sector that same $1 is turned into .40 to 70 cents worth of product.  It gets worse when it is federal funds handed to the state to spend.

5 he can announce a rebuilding program and rebuild the national infrastructure.  Bridges, roads, airports, rail lines, harbors, Levis, schools, housing (projects) and power plants.
Just announcing the rebiulding of them will see an increase in the economy as companies gear up to do bid on this work, and do sections of this work as well as provide the needed materials for the jobs.
Instead he does everything exactly the opposite of what government can do to end the ressission and bring about prosperity. 
He either does not under stand economics and is not as smart as he says he is (I have found the ones who tell you how very smart they are... really are not that smart at all) or he is that smart and is trying to desrtoy the Economy/ Country for a reason.

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Re: Another Obama accomplishment
« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2009, 03:04:59 PM »
This Just in. Obama won the heisman by watching a college game on t.v. saturday
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Re: Another Obama accomplishment
« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2009, 03:13:52 PM »
mcwoodduck, I am in agreement. I got my education running a business, with simple cost to produce, and sale price value. It is pure economics, and although I believe Obama is not capable of running the country in a successful manner, I believe he knows exactly what he is doing and have said so.
I choose the last scenario in your analogy.
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Re: Another Obama accomplishment
« Reply #13 on: October 13, 2009, 04:42:33 PM »
This Just in. Obama won the heisman by watching a college game on t.v. saturday

LOL!!! ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Another Obama accomplishment
« Reply #14 on: October 13, 2009, 06:42:45 PM »
Harry Browne wrote sometime in the 70's predicting the demise of the US dollar. All unbacked paper dollars continually loose value. The current rate of inflation in real terms indicates we are on a path of destruction. Just ask your wife every week when she comes home from shopping. Her estimate will be more accurate than anything the government prints. The chinese used the Walmart dollars we sent them to buy up US treasuries. When these are dumped on the market in the near future, we will have an inflationary depression with prices rising. We have 50 years of government mismanagement to thank for that. Obama is kicking the dog that is down by amassing a huge deficit. He hopes that the printing presses keep on running. Don't forget all that oil money is priced in US dollars too. The flight out of US dollars will bring this great country to its knees. Gotta go take a nitro pill.

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Re: Another Obama accomplishment
« Reply #15 on: October 13, 2009, 06:53:52 PM »
Well there aint gonna be a tax cut friends! in fact there is gonna be a federal sales tax and a health insurance tax and a cap and trade tax! Tax cut, hell,  there aint gonna be a tax cut for the next 10 generations as far as I can see!

Can any of you economic experts do math!
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Re: Another Obama accomplishment
« Reply #16 on: October 13, 2009, 07:26:11 PM »

Can any of you economic experts do math!

high defecit + spending + more spending = higher taxes
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Re: Another Obama accomplishment
« Reply #17 on: October 14, 2009, 09:49:43 AM »

Can any of you economic experts do math!

high defecit + spending + more spending = higher taxes

THATS MATH A CHILD CAN UNDERSTAND BUT THE LEFT CANNOT!

Something I forgot to mention earlier is the fact that NO Democrat leftist is gonna allow taxes to be cut. Thats the ammunition they use to promote their agenda!  Look for more hidden taxes in the future and a more Government spending!!!!!!!!
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