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Possible NEW pig bullet!
« on: December 20, 2002, 08:36:25 AM »
Was palyin around last night and finaly got around to loadin up a few 45-70 rounds with the 300 grain Nosler Partition bullet.  It looks HORNY!

Don't know about feeding in the lever guns, but my Ruger No1 rifles of late manufacture are ALL short throated.  Seated to the top edge of the canalure and inducing a nice roll crimp the rounds slide in like butter in the No1's. No engraving on the bullets so I have to be off the lands.

Tried 50 grains of IMR 4198 and started to use a WLR primer but said to hell with it and used the Federal 215 Mags instead.  I figure the hotter primer may burn the 4198 cleaner.  Been my experience that if you have trace powder in the bbl you will never shoot your best groups, nor will you with copper fouling for that matter either.

It's a top end load dependin on which reloading bok you look into, and yah, I shoulda backed the powder down about a grain an a half to compensate for the mag primer, but I didn't.  And I ain't the least worried about it either.  I won't post some of the loads I've run through No1 rifles, but I will say, they can handle pretty much what you put in them, unless you get real crazy and start using red dot or some super fast powder.

Of the Nosler bullets I will say they appear to be a quality bullet. Just what they will do on paper, and on hog a roos I dunno yet.

Anybody use these bullets yet?  I believe Winchester loads em as factory under Partion Gold, or Cobine Technology, or some danged handle like that.

If I got it figgered right, should be up around 2100 fps, less recoil, and I have yet to see a Partition NOT make it through, and that includes shootin em the long ways :wink:

Hmmmm, these new bullets may be the ticket on them X13 pigs :D

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« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2002, 04:16:25 AM »
COUG, I am really interested in knowing how these bullets do on paper,,, send me an e-mail, or private note about them if'in ya' thinks bout' it, woodja?   Also, if you happen to whack a hog with one I would love to know how you feel about these... I've been thinking about trying the Barnes X offering for the .45-70, but HAVE YOU SEEN THE PRICE???
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« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2002, 05:14:46 AM »
Dave

Funny you should ask :lol:   I JUST lit em up yesterday. Ok, on paper, 100 meters, ONE RAGGED HOLE!  Three in a group less than .250 center to center!

Nosler did something different to these bullets????  I shot them into hardwood logs, not exactly a prime indicator of game, but.....

They look like DEVIL bullets!  They all make a perfect hex, six sided peel.  In the past, the front core popped out of the jacket, now they appear to have bonded the lead to the jacket as the lead in smeared but still on the front half of the bullet.  The petals are gone!  In fact, there is NO mushroom left at all!  The remaining bullet looks like a wadcutter from a handgun.

This is indicative of nothing except as a comparrison of other bullets in the 45-70 I have fired into hardwood logs.  The Hornady 350s and the 400 Speers ALWAYS mushroomed out and stayed in tact.

I have used both on game and the results are pretty similar.  Right now I don't know what to make of the 300 Nosler Partition.  Had hoped somebody had reports from the field, that's where the real answers will come from.

From here I give them 2 big thumbs up in the accuracy department.

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« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2002, 11:47:58 PM »
Coug, I went to the Cabela's on-line store and discovered that the price of the Noslers you are talking about is just as high as the Barnes... only difference is Barnes sells only 20 per and Nosler sells 50... Still, not exactly a plinking priced bullet.. I'm fixin' to head out to the range with some 500 grain cast gas check bullets in my .45-70. Also going to check some 300 and 350 grain Sierra and Speer Jacketed bullets for point of aim... BTW, I just looked at your website... Fabulous!  :lol:
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« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2003, 10:35:15 AM »
I shoot the Nosler 300 grain in my Mauser 45-70.  Haven't shot a hog yet, but did shoot a deer at about 70 yards, neck shot, she dropped like someone had jerked all four feet out from under her at the same time.

The bullet hit the spine and stopped under the skin on off side.  Very good expansion and a nice mushroom shape.  Soon as I can manage it plan to try them on hogs.  If it ever rains again and we get some water in the creeks and the hogs return.

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