No hunting Signs?

[sk330lc]

How do you all feel about people that Putt up (no hunting signs).    Our policy on the farm has always been, you can hunt on us if we can hunt on you.  Well a Nieghbor Put no hunting sign up on about 350 acres, he has leased from an other nieghbor.  ( you want to talk about a Bunch of hard feeling )  We now have it in our little nieghborhood. I've hunted that land all My life.   I shot My first Buck on that land .  It saddens me  that the world has come to this.  I will Never put signs up .. Your More than welcome to hunt on me, if I can hunt on you.


please excuse my spelling.

[ncsurveyor]

Everyone has the right to do want they want with their own land.

The thing that ticks me off is the lack of common courtesy to discuss changes in time honored situations face to face.


I had an adjoiner put up signs out of the blue a few years ago.  I never hunted on his property (never needed to) and he knew it, at least I thought.

If he had reason to suspect I was hunting on him and he didn't want me to, he should have just come over and discussed it.

Instead I came home one day and found the signs.

Which I tore down because he had them about 10-30 feet on my side of the line. ( )

Gave them back and then I had the talk with him about it, and he seemed ticked, but I assured him he never had to worry about me crossing the line.  I told him I expected the same courtesy from him also, and the level of my scrutiny into that courtesy depended solely on him.

It's sad that you lost your your acreage.

It's sorry that your neighbor is gutless.

[sk330lc]

what makes me mad is he's the kind of guy that, will hunt on everybody else.  After he posted the land.  If he posts it he needs to stay on it!!!!!!!!!!!

[ncsurveyor]

Gutless and selfish.

Let him know that you're off limits.  Let him know that it is specifically because of his other restriction.

[sk330lc]

Gutless and selfish.

Let him know that you're off limits.  Let him know that it is specifically because of his other restriction.

Already have!

[DalesCarpentry]

I think you just need to talk to the man. He may not have a problem at all with you hunting there. It may be others he has a problem with. Dale

[sk330lc]

no I was told  that, the sign are for everybody.

[DalesCarpentry]

no I was told  that, the sign are for everybody.

Who told you that? It could be that is the person he has the problem with. I would still take it to him. Dale

[The Hermit]

My closest neighbor and I had to post our lands.  50 years ago, folks would stop by and ask permision to hunt, mostly rabbit hunters. Good folks and we always allowed it. Then came "hunters" from Rochester NY, about a 3 hour drive or more. Pocket flasks with brandy, empty ash tray in driveway, shoot at anything that moved and a few things that didn't. Cut barb wire fences and leave trash. Twice shot towards my cabin and I heard the BB's hit the steel roof. Twice I chased them off, at gun point. Third time, State Police came and arrested them.
Now everything for miles around is posted. My neighbor and I agree to go freely on each others land.
I'm too old to climb a tree stand anymore, but I keep his ground stands swept out, and use his and mine at different places on either properties.
It saddens me to do this and it saddened me to have to lock up all my cabins. Used to leave them unlocked, so a traveler or hunter could use them as needed. Never had a problem. Most people would bring in fresh wood and split kindling for the next person. Cook a meal, then clean the dishes.Those days are gone forever.
Sorry to carry on so, but this topic, for me, high lights drastic changes in society for me.



The Hermit

[sk330lc]

no I was told  that, the sign are for everybody.

Who told you that? It could be that is the person he has the problem with. I would still take it to him. Dale

I did Talk TO HIM. the Guy that put the signs up and the owner of the property.   No reason given why.

Hermit, You are not welcome to hunt on me..   Do you hunt on other people other than your neighbor?

In Ohio you have to have (written permission) to Hunt on private property ..  so there is no need for signs.  Other than to say you are an - - - - -  and don't want to be bothered. 
   

[LONGTOM]

In VA we also have the same law, you have to have (written permission) to Hunt on private property.
You even have to have written permission to retrieve down game.
You can no longer just come on over and get it.

The problem is that no one seems to care about the law.
They just walk right in as if they own the place.
When you are surrounded on three sides with subdivisions you will know why the land owner posts his land.
The torn down fences, trash left behind, trees cut because they needed a shooting lane, 4 wheelers running all over your farm.
Have had all that and more.
I'm sorry boys, but if you come to my place you are going to see signs and plenty of them.
We use to let people hunt but after finding a total of 7 cows, three horses and my dog shot over the years and myself along with my sister shot at I wonder why I post my land!
I don't hunt on other peoples land with out written permission, and even then I very seldom hunt on others land.
You never know what kind of nut you may run into.
I don't know who all the other person let hunt there also.
I have no problem with someone that wants to post his land.
It's just that, HIS LAND!
Even if he doesn't post it that doesn't give someone the right to just come in and hunt.

I use to know a guy who lived not far from me who would brag about sneaking in and killing deer during season on me.
He did it for years.
So early one morning during season I had to go someplace and was going by his house.
I decided to pay him a little visit.
I pulled up in his yard (on the grass), got out of my truck, put on my camo cloths along with a bright orange hat & vest, got my rifle (unloaded) and sat down in his front yard.
This is in a subdivision.
About a half hour later his wife got up and saw me in the yard.
She came out and asked what I was doing.
I told her that since her husband liked to sneak in and hunt on me so much I figured he wouldn't mind if I hunted on him for a while.
When she went back inside, I guess to call her husband or the police I got in my truck and left.
I have never had anymore trouble from him hunting on my land!

Come on boys.
You mean you wouldn't care if you went out and there was someone you didn't know hunting on your land without your permission?
I really don't believe that.
Maybe if it was someone you knew, but not a total stranger from who knows where.
Don't forget, if your land isn't posted and you let them in and they get hurt you are responsible, even if you didn't give them permission.
I know, sounds stupid but it has happened.

We don't live in the good old days when everyone knew each other and you could trust them anymore.
Those days are gone forever.
You have people living side by side that don't even know each other.
Out in the more rural areas it may be better but not near the bigger towns and citys.

If I know you and you ask you stand a pretty good chance of getting permission from me.
If I don't know you and you don't ask, keep the heck out.
 
You may think hard of me if you want, but that is the cold hard facts of life.


LONGTOM

[Graybeard]

These days ya really just can't afford to let everyone come onto your land to hunt or fish or to do whatever. Way too many lawyers and folks wanting to sue you. The land owner or lease holder if such exists makes the rules and if you don't respect that then you not they are the problem. It's not your land and you do not control it.

Yes by all means they should stay off your land but so should you off theirs unless there is a mutual agreement otherwise.

Here in Bama ALL land is posted by law so unless you have written permission from the land owner you better not be caught on it.

[The Hermit]

sk330lc, No I don't hunt on anybody else's land, nor have any intention to. I realize that people who post their land bothers you and I accept that. You have been fortunate not to have any problems on your land.
I have not been so fortunate.  I'm not quite sure what you are calling me by saying "other than to say you are an ----- and don't want to be bothered" ??     Happy hunting anyway.


   The Hermit

[LONGTOM]

VA has three types of posts that are recognized by the state as a legal post.

1- Signs
2- A silver paint mark on a tree 3" to 6" wide at head height
    about 2' to 3' long
3- A three strand wire fence or better is a legal post also but
    very few people know this fact.



LONGTOM

[Bigeasy]

If you own the land, it's up to you if you want to post it, end of story.  I have no problem with a couple select neighbors, friends, and relatives hunting my land, but ask yourself this-  The people from town you don't know, or from out of town all together, who just show up and want to hunt, did they help make any payments on the property over the years?, did they help put in the trails, plant a few food plots, help pay the taxes,  chip in when trees had to be cut, crops harvested, or fences repaired?  Are they going to treat your land, and its game with the same respect as you?..Really?  How many even ask permission?  How many invite you to come to their place to hunt?

I guess you see where I am going with this.  Not to be a jerk about it, but I live in PA, own several hundred acres in Maine that we work hard to manage for game, to make accessible, and to enjoy thru out the year.  I get tired of putting a lot of time, $, and effort into it, only to find people with attitudes hunting out of my stands on my property, un-invited.  Garbage and beer cans dumped, people shooting at I dont know what, but making enough noise to scare any self respecting buck into deep cover, and trying to drive their 4x4's onto trails that were cut as hunting foot paths.  OK, rant over...  And that being said, it does not mean that knocking on the door, and asking might not be productive.  There are more then a few folks who have taken their kids small game hunting, camping, and fishing, all they had to do was ask..

Larry

[Swampman]

In FL hunting without permission is a felony.  When I was young we crossed private land all the time.  I'm pretty careful about that now days.  You can't always tell private land from public.  Hunting ain't what it use to be.

[billy_56081]

These days ya really just can't afford to let everyone come onto your land to hunt or fish or to do whatever. Way too many lawyers and folks wanting to sue you. The land owner or lease holder if such exists makes the rules and if you don't respect that then you not they are the problem. It's not your land and you do not control it.

Yes by all means they should stay off your land but so should you off theirs unless there is a mutual agreement otherwise.

Here in Bama ALL land is posted by law so unless you have written permission from the land owner you better not be caught on it.

In Minnesota a year or 2 ago they passed a law that keeps the land owners from being held liable to people that are giving permission to hunt their land. The sad thing is I believe tresspasers still could sue.

[Savage .250]

More signs going up every day...............

[sk330lc]

sk330lc, No I don't hunt on anybody else's land, nor have any intention to. I realize that people who post their land bothers you and I accept that. You have been fortunate not to have any problems on your land.
I have not been so fortunate.  I'm not quite sure what you are calling me by saying "other than to say you are an ----- and don't want to be bothered" ??     Happy hunting anyway.
   The Hermit

Hermit, 
Your ok in my Book!  You posted your land with the intention, of not hunting or going on to anybody else. This is how it should be and I respect that. Knowing that now. I will not ask to hunt on you and we can be great friends.
  What Burns my butt is. People that post land and they intend to still hunt on everybody else. To me thats wrong.

[Mohawk]

   Well, private property is private property. I'd rather see "No Hunting Signs" on a fence than clearing acreage for an outlet mall. At least the former provides habitat. I tell people no all the time that ask to hunt our ranch in Marble Falls, Tx. It is for family and personal friends and guests only. Even turned down some decent money for a group lease. No worth the headache. I had to decide to buy a home or hunting land investment. I chose the land investment.

[greg916]

My land was posted for the first time last year, but do not know who did it.. Came home from work and noticed posted signs along my tree line in my back yard. Found a corn feeder and a tree stand in the bottom.  About as mad as I have ever been. All they had to do was ask.

[LONGTOM]

Did you take the feeder and tree stand?
You could have.
Legally they are yours or at least that is the way it has been here in VA.
If they are on your land without permission they are yours to do as you please.
If you find out who put them there they are responceable for any damage caused by them or what they put there.
If your livestock (if you have any) would get hurt by the objects then they would have to pay damages.


LONGTOM

[Foxxtrot]

not a land owner. Father had a 286 in upstate NY. Had to post it due to NYC folk shinning deer and just walking in real early during the week when my father was at work. Find a deer without the head and the body left...just wanted the trophy. We had some nice growing bucks on our property. We allowed the DNR chief to hunt our property for ducks and deer. He would leave a truck on the back road into our hardwoods that everyone could see from the main road. It helped.

I always scout around up here in VT, and if it looks good I will ask even if it isn't posted or is posted. I have a contact sheet the DNR has for just this. All filled out with a photo of me and my wife's name to boot with her number. Be courteous and donate some time for brush clearing or help in a barn for a weekend....usually gets me a season of hunting. Drop off some deer steaks, chili meat, etc.... goes a long way. Now I am headed to South Carolina... not sure what to expect when asking to hunt. 

[mechanic]

I once had a good deal worked out on a 1000 acre tract.  It belonged to a widow, who gave me permission to hunt and to manage the property, in exchange for controlling who went on it, and for keeping her lake bush hogged.  Then idiots began cutting fences and rolling over gates on a regular basis.  I had to work all week, and by weekend the damage was done.  I caught a few and had them arrested, but it got worse.  Finally in disgust the lady sold the land.  I can understand posted signs.  I can also understand a shotgun in the face for some of these folks........

[LONGTOM]

I can also understand a shotgun in the face for some of these folks........

Have had to go that route a few times myself.
Never quite sure how it's all going to turn out when it reaches that point!

Sorry, I had the gun.



LONGTOM

[Old Fart]

I guess I've always been lucky when it comes to hunting opportunities.
When I was younger dad made all the arrangements, which meant us boys going out and doing some work for the landowner.
As an adult I've been blessed. My career choice and hobby choices have opened lots of doors for me.
During the last 10 years as an educator I've helped lots of people achieve thier goals in life. I do it because it's right.
The big surprise to me has been the offers to hunt on thier family farms and properties.
I've got an aquantence who manages his property for quality deer. Every time I see him he offers me a nice buck hunt.

As for someone eles property, I always ask before entering. Just exactly what I would expect if someone needed to come on mine.
Like some of the other posters I believe a person can do what they want with thier property. I would hope if one of my nieghbors
decided to post they would let me know why. I would hate to think I did something to cause it. But it the same breath I would also
have a problem with someone posting thier property and then expect to hunt on others.

[hunt-m-up]

No hunting, no trespassing, etc. standard practice around here, roadhunters come out on the weekends and drive around looking for a secluded weedy ditch to pheasant hunt. Quick in and out. My dad has one such place just a 1/4 mile from his house,but over a big hill on a dirt road. Used to average a couple trespassing a year(that he caught), he doesn't move as fast or hear as well now, so probably more of them getting away with it. The last one that I was in on was a guy and his 12? year old kid, good way to make an impression on our youth. There are public acres to hunt, but I guess that involves too much walking.

[williamlayton]

The times, they are achangin.
Use too---is past tense.
I really do understand folks putting up signs, if only for liability purpose.
Even as a kid---we knew whose property we hunted and we did not do it without calling and asking---not calling and telling.
strong fences make good neighbors.
I never assume anything is alright without checking first.
Don't put up a stand next too a property line---even a friends.
Blessings

[FourBee]

My family has owned land all my life.   As long as there is private property there'll be tresspassers.   If there's a bobwire fence, someone has a pair of wire cutters.   It would make Dad so mad to find a calf in the early morning hours that had been shot between the eyes and its hams cut off.   He'd say " If they really needed that meat, I'd rather give them the whole calf as to see it go to waste like that."   Of course we know things like that are usually done out of ornery-ness, not necessity.
4B

[beerbelly]

The sad part is the more posted land the fewer hunters there will be in the future. When our numbers are small enough they will outlaw us! But I don't have any answers for slobs that screw it up for every one.
 In my younger days I coon hunted , quail hunted , rabbit and squirrel hunted. But as the old folks that 0wned the land I had hunted on for many years died off and the kids sold it off to the rich guys from Birmingham and Montgomery, they posted the land and that was that.
 I only deer hunt now and I have to belong to a club to be able to do that. And that takes about half the fun out of it. But at my age it don't matter mush this will likely be the last year I will be able to get out there anyway. For you younger guys I feel sorry, you will have a harder and harder time finding a place to hunt.
                            Beerbelly