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Offline Elijah Gunn

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« on: October 23, 2009, 03:29:07 AM »
I am able to shoot at my house. My backstop is a big dirtpile. We haven't shot in a couple months,and yesterday when I was checking over the target stand I saw a hole had been burrowed into it. I'm pretty sure that whatever dug into my backstop started from the back side, and what I just found is its exit hole.
I think it is either a skunk, or a woodchuck. Probably a skunk, as I haven't seen a woodchuck around here since one did 3000 dollars worth of damage to our mini van a few years back, and I removed them. I have seen a skunk around here this year. A couple times when I saw it I was in its "effective range" but it did not spray.
Any ideas on how to get it out of my backstop without getting sprayed?
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Re: unwanted guest
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2009, 03:40:29 AM »
I don't know of any tricks to coax one out. But to me it seems like a great opportunity for a covert opperation. Put on your Ninga clothes and do a stack out. Rain down terror from all directions when it sticks it's little head out. ;D

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Re: unwanted guest
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2009, 03:52:28 AM »
If you can drive ANY gas powered something to it,do this. Plug one hole. Put a sweeper hose or something similer onto your running engine. Stick that into the open hole. Mabey seal it somehow with rags or something?? Carbon Monoxide should do it in!! I know a farmer that does that with Ground Hogs.
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Re: unwanted guest
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2009, 04:17:53 AM »
If you can drive ANY gas powered something to it,do this. Plug one hole. Put a sweeper hose or something similer onto your running engine. Stick that into the open hole. Mabey seal it somehow with rags or something?? Carbon Monoxide should do it in!! I know a farmer that does that with Ground Hogs.
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Re: unwanted guest
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2009, 04:25:02 AM »
I like the Ninja thought.
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Re: unwanted guest
« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2009, 04:47:53 AM »
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I think it is either a skunk, or a woodchuck.

Sounds like one of those pesky armadillos.  They'll dig a hole anywhere to hole up for the day.

Then about dark they'll emerge to start there prowl, leaving a tell-tale sign from rooting up the ground in search for insects.    Usually, you can catch him coming out about that time, and dispose of him with a shotgun blast to the head.  If you miss his head he'll jump about 3 foot straight up and run off, and you sure don't want that to happen.
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Re: unwanted guest
« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2009, 04:58:12 AM »
In any case, Gunn, if I were you, I wouldn't shoot at my house.  Sorry, I couldn't resist.
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Re: unwanted guest
« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2009, 05:28:17 AM »
 i use to use the carbon monoxide method to put an broken or old animal dn..
 it is painless although they do experience a little disorenientation before they pass out..
 finally dr, beck my vet gives me a clue ,i already knew but hated to do..
      he drew a dot right between the dogs eyes[at the time i had a kennel].. said you put the 22 bullet right back into the brain..
 he promised if i did as he said ...the dog would be dead as quick as sodium pentathol..
 ive never missed doing it right ..if you do it right ..theres not even a twitch..they never hear the rifle go off....
 many will say no they do..... but it sure doesn t look like it,, as all you hear is them exspelling air from thier lungs as thier head drops....never something to look forward to,, but important enough to learn  doing it right ...at least to me..slim

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« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2009, 05:41:03 AM »
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but important enough to learn  doing it right ...

Absolutely.   A bungled job is hard to live with.
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Re: unwanted guest
« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2009, 07:57:36 AM »
I removed a whole family of skunks from under my Uncles House.  As they would come out in the evening I would simply shoot them in the back of the head with a .22RF.  I would not take the shot till I was 100% sure I had it.  Killed the old Mama and four young ones.  None sprayed.
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Re: unwanted guest
« Reply #10 on: October 23, 2009, 08:24:42 AM »
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None sprayed.
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Re: unwanted guest
« Reply #11 on: October 23, 2009, 08:59:35 AM »
I have heard but have never tried putting moth balls where they hole up. Under a house or in hole and it will drive them out. Supposed to work for snakes and other vermin also.
I can only say this is what I heard.
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« Reply #12 on: October 23, 2009, 09:01:10 AM »
As soon as the skunk raises his tail, grab the end of it and lift his hind feet off the ground and he can't spray with his feet off the ground. Most of the time, this works.




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Re: unwanted guest
« Reply #13 on: October 23, 2009, 09:07:37 AM »
The last thing I saw before that ole skunk sprayed me, was his tail straight up and his hind legs lifted off the ground.  Never will forget that.
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Re: unwanted guest
« Reply #14 on: October 23, 2009, 10:18:36 AM »
light a good sized pine knot throw it in the hole get away and he will leave

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Re: unwanted guest
« Reply #15 on: October 23, 2009, 11:07:28 AM »
I have heard but have never tried putting moth balls where they hole up. Under a house or in hole and it will drive them out. Supposed to work for snakes and other vermin also.
I can only say this is what I heard.
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Re: unwanted guest
« Reply #16 on: October 23, 2009, 12:39:06 PM »
My Mom and Dad had a skunk move in under the shed down on the back of their property.  Dad was careful when he went down there, not to surprise it.  Dad had tried trapping skunks as a kid and did not really want to mess with it.  He had a few bad experiences, and never became a good trapper.  One day Dad made the statement in front of Mom, "Wish Roggie was here, he could shoot that thing without it spraying".   Refering to the time I had shot the Skunks at my Uncles house.  Wrong thing to say in front of my Mom, She does not like me, and in her opinion I am lower than dirt.  Anything I do, any of my brothers can do better. 

Now my brother Darrell was still living at home, so Mom told Darrell to "Go shoot that Skunk".  Let me explain something here.  I had been using my .22 Remington pump, with a 3X9X40 Bushnell scope.  At 25 yards I could hit a rabbit in the eye almost every shot.  Back then I went through a brick of .22 ammo a week, hunting and plinking, so I got a lot of practice, with a gun I was familure with, and one that can easily make a shot like that.  Now Darrell was Mom's Spoiled Brat, he hardly knew which end the bullet came out of.  He had probably never shot a whole box of .22 ammo in his life anyway.  Now Darrell goes in and gets Dad's .22 Marlin semi-auto, with open sights.  While Darrell was loading the gun in the garage, Dad told him to unload that gun and put it away.  "You're going to get your self in trouble, and that shed will be stinking so bad, I won't be able to go down there for a week".  Darrell laughed and continued on anyway. 

Darrell goes down and hides behind a tree just before dark.  Out comes the skunk, Darrel shoots at the head, skunk falls over.  Darrell runs over and picks it up.  He's just got to go shove it under Dad's nose and show him he was wrong.  The shot had hit the skunk in the head and Darrell felt it had killed it since blood was all over the side of the head, and the skunk was limp.  When he got it to the garage, he showed it to Dad.  Dad started yelling "Get that thing out of her, I don't want it in my garage, just it's presence will stink up the cabinetry I am working on here.  Dad made custom Kitchen cabinets for people.  Darrell kept playing with it, tossing it back and forth between his hands. 

Suddenly the skunk bit him.  Darrell let it go fast, but kicked it as it fell.  The kick sent it against the wall.  Dad ran.   Darrell was ticked and was making to grab it again, wrong move.  Darrell caught the spray right in the face.  Darrell grabbed his face and fell to the floor, receiving more spray.  The skunk ran around him and headed for parts unknown.

Dad left the Garage doors open for the next three months.  Stacked all the raw wood he had in the garage outside.  Tossed the cabinet he was working on.  Dad relocated his wood working shop over to my brother David's house.  Mom scrubbed that garage over and over, never getting rid of the oder.  All Darrell's clothes were thrown into the trash.  Darrell was an assistant funeral director, they transferred him to the cemetery crew for a week, till he smelled better.  When they moved away from there, Mom said you could still smell skunk in the garage.

This was just one incidence leading up to Dad changing all the locks on the house and refusing to give Darrell a key.  Just ask lionhunter, our brother Darrell, a legend in his own mind.  Just one more reason they live in Tennessee and I live in Alaska. 
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Re: unwanted guest
« Reply #17 on: October 23, 2009, 02:11:02 PM »
Ha ha ha, Sourdough, you made my day. Thanks.
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« Reply #18 on: October 23, 2009, 02:28:30 PM »
The ones I killed at my Uncles house were tanned by my Grandfather.  I remember them hanging on the wall for a while, then my Grandma sewed them into pillow covers to use in the car when she went on trips.  The fur was so soft, and felt good to snuggle up to.
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« Reply #19 on: October 23, 2009, 03:52:09 PM »
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Mom, She does not like me, and in her opinion I am lower than dirt.
Mercy; Sourdough!  That'd be a rough dose to swallow.   :'(
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« Reply #20 on: October 23, 2009, 04:08:52 PM »
FourBee: I grew up with it.  She was always overbearing, abusive, and intolerant.  That's why she lives in Tennessee, and I live in Alaska.
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Re: unwanted guest
« Reply #21 on: October 24, 2009, 03:20:14 AM »
Thank you guys for all the advice, and the stories. fourbee, I live in Michigan so there are no armadillos here. I used to see them when we lived in Missouri.
As for this skunk, do you think one of those gopher smoke bombs would work on it? I also kinda like the ninja approach as well. I guess I'm going to have to check out the backside of the dirt pile, and see where the entrance hole is. It's tight up to the woods there, and I'm not sure I could get out quick enough if it "meets me at the door". Is there any chance that there could be more than one living in the same burrow? Been raining here the past few days, so hopefully it'll be sleeping when I check it out.
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« Reply #22 on: October 24, 2009, 03:51:08 AM »
The Gopher Bomb oughta work.  Since its been raining, check for fresh tracks at the entrance to make sure he's still using the burrow then give him the works. ;D
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« Reply #23 on: October 24, 2009, 08:11:06 AM »
Was reading one of my books on trapping from Hawbakers.  Came across the section on Skunks.  They talk about how to kill one in a trap without it spraying.  Their recommendations were.

1.  From 25ft shoot it in the eye with a .22. 

2.  Using a 12ft pole, hit it hard in the small of the back, breaking the spine.  This method was least recommended due to the possibility you     might miss, and no break the spine.

3.  Trap Skunk with leg hold trap.  Attach trap chain to a long pole, approx 12 ft.  Once Skunk is in trap, using pole, drag trap and Skunk to nearby stream and drown Skunk.

To me the answer is to take out the brain stem, or the spine.  Stop the signal going from the brain to the rear section to spray.
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« Reply #24 on: October 24, 2009, 09:08:53 AM »
I just got back from checking it out. I looked all the way around and the only place that looked like the entrance was triangle shaped and about 3-4 inches across. There were a lot of big rocks laying around so I covered that hole. While I was doing that I had my daughter watch the other hole (from a distance) to let me know if it came out and which way it went. I couldn't find tracks because there is not much in the way of uncovered dirt to leave tracks in ,it's mostly grass,and leaves. Any chance this critter is hibernating already?
Next time we go to the store I'll get the gopher bombs.
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« Reply #25 on: October 24, 2009, 02:14:13 PM »
 
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I'd have to say that would take some expertise and plenty of wide open space. ;D ;D
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« Reply #26 on: October 24, 2009, 02:28:57 PM »
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Using a 12ft pole, hit it hard in the small of the back,
I'd have to say that would take some expertise and plenty of wide open space. ;D ;D
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« Reply #27 on: October 24, 2009, 03:04:38 PM »
That's why it's not the highest recommended method.  The more nervous you are, the more likely you are to miss.
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Re: unwanted guest
« Reply #28 on: October 24, 2009, 03:13:34 PM »
I've never tried sticks or smoke bombs, but have killed about half a dozen with a .223 hp to the head.  Completely removes the head and never had one spray. Works for me, JR
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« Reply #29 on: October 24, 2009, 03:29:35 PM »
I used to trap a bit as a youngster, and sold my pelts at our local farm supply.  The man there told me one time he could get some good money for skunk.  I told him to catch his own.  I might fight a bear if I have to, but not a skunk.  Just the thought gives me a bad headache.

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