Back in sept I posted about shooting a 435 gr cast bullet w/ orange mmp sabot. I did get some interresting and helpful replies. Well, last week-end ML season opened in NY. On day two I got a clean shot at about 50 yds. I clipped a rib bone on the way in and the exit wound was close to the size of a silver dollar. It was a classic" bang- flop". I do like the load. dan