Author Topic: Palin showing her colors... (Read 5674 times)

Oldshooter · « **Reply #60 on:** October 29, 2009, 03:24:24 PM »

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but again I will not choose to not vote against the greater of two evils (by voting for a non-viable candidate) just to prove a point or to make myself feel "superior".

Pardner your wasting your time with my old buddy Dee, We covered all this months ago and all we could agree on was to disagree!

I may have said those exact words, if not they were identical in spirit and meaning!

I know i said something to the effect of by the time voting day arrives you know who is viable and who aint and voting for someone who aint is a waste of time and a give away to possibly the worst ever president This country has ever seen! maybe the last!

billy_56081 · « **Reply #61 on:** October 29, 2009, 03:28:58 PM »

Well said Oldshooter. The state of political choices in our country is dismal to say the least. I'm to the point that I am not sure the slide can be stopped, but I will do my best to slow it down if I can't outright stop it.

powderman · « **Reply #62 on:** October 29, 2009, 05:20:31 PM »

OLDSHOOTER. YEP, agreed Sir. There is NO WAY I'll ever waste my vote on anybody that has NO CHANCE of winning. POWDERMAN.

mechanic · « **Reply #63 on:** October 29, 2009, 05:30:49 PM »

Quote from: powderman on October 29, 2009, 05:20:31 PM

OLDSHOOTER. YEP, agreed Sir. There is NO WAY I'll ever waste my vote on anybody that has NO CHANCE of winning. POWDERMAN.

I will if the other options are more of the same. Sorry, I just can't stomach it anymore....besides, I believe that it's too late now to matter.

Oldshooter · « **Reply #64 on:** October 29, 2009, 05:30:49 PM »

Dont think either one of those guys can pour a peanut out of a boot!

Dee · « **Reply #65 on:** October 30, 2009, 01:01:27 AM »

Well I tell ya what Oldshooter, if those two guys your talkin about is myself and mechanic, while we're tryin to get that peanut out of the boot, you three musketeers are "gettin" the one out of Republicans shorts.
A liar and cheat, is a liar and cheat, whether he is Republican or Democrat, and while you THINK, you know best in the voting category some of us do what WE think is best "individually".
If you think one liar and cheat is better than the other, then by all means continue voting for them as I am sure you will. You are certainly in good company with your two amigos, and they agree with you.
If a Republican wants my vote he going to have to "prove himself" to be honest. I can read, and voting records speak for themselves. Majority is not always right. Sometimes all there is left is to step away when folks refuse to see the problem, and let them learn the hard way, and you are left with doing what you feel is right.
These lessor of two scoundrels candidates are committing open treason with our Constitution and the Bill of Rights, and those that support them out of fear of the other, are aiding and abetting.
When our country has been disassembled, and is gone, and when we are gone, our great grandchildren will see the historically documented cowardice of their voting forefathers, and see that they were sheep, and gave their country away to liars, and thieves, because they had willingly settled for less, until less, finally became nothing.

Oldshooter · « **Reply #66 on:** October 30, 2009, 05:10:12 AM »

Dee, we have covered this ground before! Frankly I'm bored with the rhetoric!

Throw your vote where ever in haites you want to throw it away at!

I think the picture explains of whom i was speaking. You might try to read and comprehend before lashing out Pardner!

The majority may not always be right but until the rules change they will always win here in these United States. And if you vote for someone who cannot win you vote for the losing team and it means nothing, and nobody gives a rats ass about the point you made cause nobody appreciates the point of throwing your vote away! But you keep making it if you want! By the way has obama sent you a thank you card yet!

Casull · « **Reply #67 on:** October 30, 2009, 05:24:24 AM »

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you three musketeers are "gettin" the one out of Republicans shorts.

If you are referring to me in that, then "pard" the gloves are off.

Dee · « **Reply #68 on:** October 30, 2009, 05:31:20 AM »

Oldshooter, YOU ENTERED THE FRAY ON YOUR OWN. You weren't invited, are mentioned. Don't act like I pulled you in. YOU STEPPED IN of you own volition. You want out no one is keepin ya, YOUR rhetoric is just as old to me. So hook'em.
If you want to keep supportin crooks that the voters don't want by all means do so. And I don't blame you for not give'in up your rat's ass, it has a good home.
And no I haven't got my thank you card, have you gotten yours?

Now I'm done with you, are you capable of being done with me?

Dee · « **Reply #69 on:** October 30, 2009, 05:33:01 AM »

Quote from: Casull on October 30, 2009, 05:24:24 AM

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you three musketeers are "gettin" the one out of Republicans shorts.

If you are referring to me in that, then "pard" the gloves are off.

Well "PARD". I wasn't. But go ahead if you feel justified, and up to the task.

Oldshooter · « **Reply #70 on:** October 30, 2009, 05:38:10 AM »

Quote from: Oldshooter on October 29, 2009, 03:24:24 PM

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but again I will not choose to not vote against the greater of two evils (by voting for a non-viable candidate) just to prove a point or to make myself feel "superior".

Pardner your wasting your time with my old buddy Dee, We covered all this months ago and all we could agree on was to disagree!

I may have said those exact words, if not they were identical in spirit and meaning!

I know i said something to the effect of by the time voting day arrives you know who is viable and who aint and voting for someone who aint is a waste of time and a give away to possibly the worst ever president This country has ever seen! maybe the last!

If you can read this youll see that I made NO personal reference to you other than to say that we covered this ground and did not agree! You have a subjective attitude and lash out before you comprehend what is being said. But I can be done !

Casull · « **Reply #71 on:** October 30, 2009, 07:05:46 AM »

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you three musketeers are "gettin" the one out of Republicans shorts.

If you are referring to me in that, then "pard" the gloves are off.

Well "PARD". I wasn't. But go ahead if you feel justified, and up to the task.

Well, if you weren't then we got no problem. I don't look for trouble, but I'm always "up to the task".

Dee · « **Reply #72 on:** October 30, 2009, 07:18:47 AM »

Quote from: Oldshooter on October 29, 2009, 05:30:49 PM

Dont think either one of those guys can pour a peanut out of a boot!

If I "mistook" this post to mean myself, and mechanic, instead of Obama, and Carter, then I will apologize. If that is what was meant. I don't run from mistakes, but I don't run anyway. NOW. Which was it?

Oldshooter · « **Reply #73 on:** October 30, 2009, 08:18:53 AM »

Dee, it was a comment on the guys in the picture! and the peanut reference was in reference to Jimma Cata's peanut biness! Since I didn't wanna say what i thought they really could not pour out of a boot!

For two guys that really see things the same way in reality, we seem to get crossed up at times!

Dee · « **Reply #74 on:** October 30, 2009, 09:21:07 AM »

Quote from: Oldshooter on October 30, 2009, 08:18:53 AM

Dee, it was a comment on the guys in the picture! and the peanut reference was in reference to Jimma Cata's peanut biness! Since I didn't wanna say what i thought they really could not pour out of a boot!

For two guys that really see things the same way in reality, we seem to get crossed up at times!

Yes we do, it is the art of typing that fails to communicate at times. My apologies sir. I am at fault.

ironglow · « **Reply #75 on:** October 30, 2009, 12:23:04 PM »

Quote from: ms on October 29, 2009, 01:30:35 PM

Quote from: ironglow on October 29, 2009, 12:43:47 PM
Quote from: ms on October 29, 2009, 06:54:59 AM

I believe Sarah has a special position right now to get independants and right thinking Republicans elected.
Your drunk she getting paid to do that it's all about the money. She will tell you anything you want to hear.

   Well MS;
  Since you quoted me I guess I should reply! Lie #1, you accuse of Palin "having an affair"...and of course you offer NO PROOF..Decent men don't trash a decent woman without very ironclad facts!
  Lie #2; You accuse me of being drunk...quite impossible, when I totally shun alcohol or any illicit drugs.

  A bit of advice; Put your brain in gear before you engage your mouth !

Have another drink and engage your mouth. You need aa!
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MS;
Repeating a lie..doesn't make it the truth...

Oldshooter · « **Reply #76 on:** October 30, 2009, 01:40:37 PM »

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MS;
Repeating a lie..doesn't make it the truth...

Amazingly, the Democratic party has been using that technique for as long as I can remember!

"Giving the rich a tax break" Now thats a favorite of the left

as is "the Republicans dont look out for the working man or black people"

Then there is; "The Republicans want old people to just die"

Oh yea and , "We aint gonna raise taxes on any family making under 150,000 a year!"

how about, " We are gonna give tax breaks to the poor "

I could go for hours!

shortround · « **Reply #77 on:** October 30, 2009, 02:41:27 PM »

It's way too early to declare Ms. Palin the savior of the republican party and our nation.

I'm happy she's pro gun. I'm happy she's pro military. I'm happy she's pro police.

I'm NOT happy she ran off and left her state after serving less than one term. And please pardon my cynicism, but I've been burned before and don't buy her reasons for doing so.

If she thinks Alaska; which gave her, her political life is not good enough to stand up and defend, then how do I know she won't jump ship when she get's in the White House. How do I know she won't sell out like all those who've gone before?

Let's stop. Look. Listen. Then take a wait and see attitude here.

We still have time.

What's important is deeds not words.

jimster · « **Reply #78 on:** October 30, 2009, 03:48:33 PM »

I don't think the repubican part as it stands now, wants Palin to be their savior or anything to do with her. I get the impression they don't trust her to be faithful to them and are afraid she would dig things up and bring it to light. She done it before to them. Far as leaving the governorship, that's her business, I don't know all the facts or anything about what her family wanted or what was best for them.

I don't think the republican party can be saved myself, it's long gone from what I see around these parts. Good news is conservatism is alive and well.
I think we are on the verge of a new era of a third party coming in, would not surprise me, and if Palin is as smart as I think she is, It would not surprise me to see her break totally away from the rep party, she owes them nothing. Palin is not perfect, nobody ever will be, if your looking for a perfect person or people to bring things back forget it, none of us are. What you look for is someone who can stand alone, totally alone, and stick with a message. Palin comes kind of close to this, closer than most. One person as president, or a good VP will give us nothing...congress runs it all. I think Palin in the exec. office would be a total waste. Congress is what we need to change, president matches that automatially, that just falls into place after you fix congress.
The legislative branch is where it's at. I don't like Palin because she looks OK, I like her because at times in her life she pointed to people in her own party and called them crooks, and broke the mold a time or two. That's rare. There are a few others out there like her, and one or two are democrats too, you won't hear about those rare people, but you can find them if you check how they voted on things. They don't get any coverage at all.

Far as Palin getting into the White house...I don't see how that would help us at all. But if people could find a couple hundred people with the attitude Palin has, and stick em in congress...things would get stired up pretty good, and maybe in our favor. Congress appropriates ALL funds, writes ALL laws...and can over ride any president with two thirds vote. They have power. We need to change that first.

mirage1988 · « **Reply #79 on:** October 30, 2009, 04:11:04 PM »

They are still scared of her, even when she is out of office. I saw the interview yesterday on e with that piece of trailer trash that fathered her grandson. They are treating him like he is a credible source of dirt, he can't even put three words together that make sense!

BBF · « **Reply #80 on:** October 30, 2009, 04:12:53 PM »

I'd like to see her in the Senate myself.

Casull · « **Reply #81 on:** October 30, 2009, 04:15:14 PM »

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There are a few others out there like her, and one or two are democrats too,

Not in the Senate. Remember the democrat vote during the Clinton impeachment.

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One person as president, or a good VP will give us nothing...congress runs it all.

Ronald Reagan would say that you are wrong on this point.

Don't really mean to snipe. I agree with some of what you have to say, but you might be overstating a few things.

nomosendero · « **Reply #82 on:** October 30, 2009, 06:55:16 PM »

Quote from: BBF on October 28, 2009, 10:37:30 AM

This will only ensure a Democrat will win IMO

In that race the Rep. is just as Liberal, so what diff. would it make if left between the two?

The Conservative is the only chance for a decent person to win.

Dee · « **Reply #83 on:** October 31, 2009, 02:29:17 AM »

I agree on the Conservative being the only chance for decent candidates nemosendero. The Republican and Democratic parties AS A WHOLE, are a long way from conservative values. You have maybe 3 or 4 Republicans but, I can't think of any Democrats that are even moderate.
Americans need to abandon both parties and get behind some INDIVIDUALS, on an independent ticket. The two parties are not going to change and are rubbing it in our faces.

ironglow · « **Reply #84 on:** October 31, 2009, 05:19:45 AM »

While I am not a member of either major party and I do not think either one is acting fully in the American people's interest, to lump them together as exactly the same is ludicrous.
Just look at the situation we now face..Obamanation health care (govt run of course). Nearly all Democrats (except a very few blue dogs) are all for it..while NO Republicans will stand for it.
Yes, there is some blurring of the lines toward the center edges, but let's look at the bulk of the elected officials.

Lets look at other issues, and answer for yourself:

1) Abortion: which party is about all for it?
2) Taxes: Which party is generally the one more likely to raise taxes?
3) Gun rights: which party is more often attempting to grab our guns?
4) Hate crime: Which party is more likely to want to jail somebody..for what they are thinking?
5) Political correctness: Which party is more likely to use this idiocy to limit freedom of speech?
6) Gay marriage: Which party is more likely push for this; thereby cheapening real marriage?
7) Acorn: Which party is heart and soul "married" to this corrupt, gangster organization?

Constitutional rights:Which party at this very moment, is trying to undermine our rights in many ways?
9) The Constitution: Which party refers to the Constitution as a "living, breathing" document; (meaning it can be changed as fads and the majority dictates)?
10) God: Which party is much more avid in kicking God out of schools, football games, Christmas displays, or any public venue?

These are just a few of the many places where the major parties differ, but if you came up with the same party name for every , or nearly every question..that should provide a clue...

While the Republicans are nowhere near where Reagan was, they may not be beyond redemption..whereas it looks like the Democrats are sold out to the Socialist/Marxist control freaks, and are unable to return to the American way.

In NY's 23rd district, there is a Conservative running strong. If I were in that district I would be out campaigning for him.
In my district, at a state level, we have a Republican state senator who votes correctly on every issue I am aware of. If the Conservative party (my party) runs a candidate against her, I will still vote for Cathy, simply because she has proven herself over the last 6 years she has held the post. To vote against her BECAUSE she is a Republican would be patently stupid; especially if the Conservative party candidate stands no chance.
In that case I would be doing something so stupid that I may be putting a radical liberal in her place. ....

That would be "cutting off my nose..just to spite my face".

Casull · « **Reply #85 on:** October 31, 2009, 05:43:46 AM »

Very, very well said, IG. There are a few fellows on here who seem to think that if a politician doesn't give you 100% of what you want (which obvisously is impossible, since we don't all want the exact same thing), then they are worthless and just like their opponent. Again, I am not happy with many of the Republicans, but they are NOT the same as the democrats overall.

ironglow · « **Reply #86 on:** October 31, 2009, 05:45:14 AM »

Casell;
AMEN!

Fazak · « **Reply #87 on:** October 31, 2009, 06:03:22 AM »

Any candidate who is marched in front of the people by those who control the Republican and Democrat parties is applying for the job of representing the government,...not you.

Vote for whoever you want,...but if you select any mainstream candidate, you're going to get "business as usual",...and "business as usual" will continue to bleed the American people until they're bled out.

Oldshooter · « **Reply #88 on:** October 31, 2009, 06:08:58 AM »

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To vote against her BECAUSE she is a Republican would be patently stupid; especially if the Conservative party candidate stands no chance.
In that case I would be doing something so stupid that I may be putting a radical liberal in her place. ....

That would be "cutting off my nose..just to spite my face".

Well said Ironglow!

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There are a few fellows on here who seem to think that if a politician doesn't give you 100% of what you want (which obvisously is impossible, since we don't all want the exact same thing), then they are worthless and just like their opponent. Again, I am not happy with many of the Republicans, but they are NOT the same as the democrats overall.

You guys are my heros! If I did not say these things before it was not because I did not Try!

ironglow · « **Reply #89 on:** October 31, 2009, 06:23:34 AM »

Good news!
  The party establishment Republican bows out this morning, Hoffman..the Conservative takes the upper hand. The contest was a tight 3-way with each holding about 33%. Most of the Republican's votes should go to Hoffman.
  People like Palin can make a difference!
  She could be the catalyst that sheds the Rhinos, brings the Republicans back to their roots and draws the 'tea party" into a coalition !