Palin showing her colors...

[billy_56081]

Well said IG, I just hope the rest of the conservatives here can get over the titles and vote for a viable conservative candidate. I am not concerned with the party title I am cincerned with keeping the country safe from liberal scum.

[Dee]

Very, very well said, IG.  There are a few fellows on here who seem to think that if a politician doesn't give you 100% of what you want (which obvisously is impossible, since we don't all want the exact same thing), then they are worthless and just like their opponent.  Again, I am not happy with many of the Republicans, but they are NOT the same as the democrats overall.

I am for the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights being strictly adhered to Casull. I am for taxation WITH representation. I am for less government, and more of the people. That is what I want. Nothing more, nothing less. But that is not what I getting from either party. There are a few OTHER FELLOWS here, that never actually say what they want, other than settling for a little less this or that, rather than a lot more of the other. What do you want Casull? Be specific.

[billy_56081]

Very, very well said, IG.  There are a few fellows on here who seem to think that if a politician doesn't give you 100% of what you want (which obvisously is impossible, since we don't all want the exact same thing), then they are worthless and just like their opponent.  Again, I am not happy with many of the Republicans, but they are NOT the same as the democrats overall.

I am for the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights being strictly adhered to Casull. I am for taxation WITH representation. I am for less government, and more of the people. That is what I want. Nothing more, nothing less. But that is not what I getting from either party. There are a few OTHER FELLOWS here, that never actually say what they want, other than settling for a little less this or that, rather than a lot more of the other. What do you want Casull? Be specific.

DEE, I am for exactly the same thing. Sad part is, we have no choice but to settle for less than perfect until we enter the Kingdom of Heaven. I am for the Constitution of the United States of America, less taxes and less government. I will vote for that or against that when only givin that choice. I would love to see Sarah run for President and I would vote for her as the conservative she is, no matter what the affiliation she is listed under. I myself have never been ever registered under any affiliation. And myself have only ever sworn one oath, to protect and defend the constitution from all enemies foreign and domestic. I myself stand by that oath.

I am glad to see that there are others here who share my conservative ideals. It is good to have allies in this fight against tyrany.

[Casull]

I am for the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights being strictly adhered to Casull. I am for taxation WITH representation. I am for less government, and more of the people. That is what I want. Nothing more, nothing less. But that is not what I getting from either party. There are a few OTHER FELLOWS here, that never actually say what they want, other than settling for a little less this or that, rather than a lot more of the other. What do you want Casull? Be specific.

Dee, I am for smaller government, lower taxes, the Constitution, greater freedom, control of our borders and I am for the US.  BUT, I also live in the world of reality and know that I won't get any of that from voting for an unviable candidate.  I don't like incrementalism, but if that is what it takes, then so be it (it's been working pretty well for the lib's and dem's).  Believe me, I am not wedded to the Republican party, but I do see it as the best chance of actually getting what I want.

[mechanic]

We've had many years of voting for the lessor of two evils.  What has it gotten us so far?

I have re-registered as an independent.  I will either vote for the man who shares the most of my ideals regarding the constitution, or I will write in someone.  I will no longer vote for someone, regardless of party, who does not believe in the constitution of America.

The feds were given 3 specific duties.  All else belongs with the states.  Period.

[Casull]

We've had many years of voting for the lessor of two evils.  What has it gotten us so far?

We've had even more years of people voting for third party candidates.  So, what has that gotten us?

[Oldshooter]

We've had many years of voting for the lessor of two evils.  What has it gotten us so far?

I have re-registered as an independent.  I will either vote for the man who shares the most of my ideals regarding the constitution, or I will write in someone.  I will no longer vote for someone, regardless of party, who does not believe in the constitution of America.

The feds were given 3 specific duties.  All else belongs with the states.  Period.

Pardner, I agree totally with your idea! In a perfect world that would and should be the way it works. And you can vote however you want, but the day before the election the candidates will be shown and the percentages of support will be posted and if who ever you vote for does not have at least a double digit percentage of eligible voters behind him/her then you may as well go pig hunting than go vote.  But that is your prerogative !

Realistically all we can do now is start at the grass root level and support the guys we know that believe like we do and help them gain national support. But in the end at voting time if they do not have it then to throw a vote in the trash, so to speak, is not acceptable to me!

Ron Paul was my favorite candidate in the last primary elections, but he did not have national support and did not garner enough votes to be competitive so he bowed out! A vote for him by me would have only increased the margin that the neighborhood organizing socialist won by!

In countries where there are many "parties" people get in to power with a 30 % following and  those countries are led  by folk that have 70 % of the people hating life!

[yellowtail3]

I liked Sarah Palin. She's hot, she hunts, she's hot, she shoots, she fishes, she's hot, she's put-your-money-where-your-mouth-is pro-life, and she's hot. That she pisses off leftists I didn't like, made her all the more attractive.

But she's a wuss on when it comes to ending the War on (some) Drugs - she's for the status quo, which has been a catastrophe.

No bravery on her part there. Disappointment.

[magooch]

Looking ahead, besides Sarah Palin, I like what I see and hear about a couple of California Congressmen--Dan Lundgren and Darrel Ises.  I haven't done any research on these two guys, but I like what they have to say when they appear on the tube.

Maybe you California guys would have some comments about them.

[ironglow]

  Pawlenty and Jindal also..How about them, Minneota & Louisiana ?

[Dee]

That would be a good idea, and we could leave Keith Ellison the Muslim Congressman from Minnesota to run things up there. Maybe they could even elect another Muslim, and then Minnesota would have a pair. But that doesn't beat three of a kind does it.

[billy_56081]

I'm not to hot on Pawlent and I'm sure my friend DEE would agree that Pawlenty is not super conservative. As for the muslim congress man my friend Dan is talking about here, he is from a different district than I so I can only look from afar and not have any bearing on his election.

I am glad my friend and ally DEE is on my side here. I like am looking forward to some decent candidates being put on the ticket.  I being a person who has never ever been a registered member of a political party have always votes for a viable candidate that will protect the constitution.

Anger and infighting will only give our ememies strength.

I'll keep you in my prayers Dan.

[bearmgc]

$10 is a vote of confidence and you can send more later it he builds steam, a momentum building grass roots kind of thing.

https://www.doughoffmanforcongress.com/donate3.html

Yes, but $10.00 won't buy a speaking engagement for your local organization. Yes I would vote for Palin, but charging an organization $100,000 to speak may come back to haunt her. Poor Iowa wanted her presence. In this economy, who can afford $100,000? Media-wise, she could have use the state of the economy to be more gracious in her speaking engagement financially.

[ironglow]

  Please note; I didn't suggest Pawlenty or Jindal...I ASKED about them. That is what the ? at the end of a sentence means..

[Oldshooter]

I could be  wrong and have been in the past, (I know thats a shock to some) but i dont think Bobby Jindal can garner national support for a presidential foray! Now that being said i did not think he could have "bought" the governernors mansion in Louisiana either! I like him he just does not come across nationally if that makes any since.

[Dee]

I think everyone pretty much know what a ? is. My post about the two + one was an attempt at satire, and there is one that I am not sure what it was.
Isn't it aggravating though when folks take a post out of context, or add to it something that wasn't actually there?

[Dee]

I could be  wrong and have been in the past, (I know thats a shock to some) but i dont think Bobby Jindal can garner national support for a presidential foray! Now that being said i did not think he could have "bought" the governernors mansion in Louisiana either! I like him he just does not come across nationally if that makes any since.

Makes perfect since Oldshooter. I have listened to Jindal, and he is much like Paul. He just kinda stands there, and tells the truth. Not very dynamic in appearance or shiny. He'd never win in my opinion. America wants someone pretty, and flamboyant. Honesty doesn't really enter into the mix when they speak, as long as they speak well. Obama is proof of that. JMO

[ms]

I could be  wrong and have been in the past, (I know thats a shock to some) but i dont think Bobby Jindal can garner national support for a presidential foray! Now that being said i did not think he could have "bought" the governernors mansion in Louisiana either! I like him he just does not come across nationally if that makes any since.

Makes perfect since Oldshooter. I have listened to Jindal, and he is much like Paul. He just kinda stands there, and tells the truth. Not very dynamic in appearance or shiny. He'd never win in my opinion. America wants someone pretty, and flamboyant. Honesty doesn't really enter into the mix when they speak, as long as they speak well. Obama is proof of that. JMO

So is Palin .

[Oldshooter]

I could be  wrong and have been in the past, (I know thats a shock to some) but i dont think Bobby Jindal can garner national support for a presidential foray! Now that being said i did not think he could have "bought" the governernors mansion in Louisiana either! I like him he just does not come across nationally if that makes any since.

Makes perfect since Oldshooter. I have listened to Jindal, and he is much like Paul. He just kinda stands there, and tells the truth. Not very dynamic in appearance or shiny. He'd never win in my opinion. America wants someone pretty, and flamboyant. Honesty doesn't really enter into the mix when they speak, as long as they speak well. Obama is proof of that. JMO

So is Palin .

  Not sure where you're going with that ms, not sure you know either but I'm sure its way to the left!

[ms]

I could be  wrong and have been in the past, (I know thats a shock to some) but i dont think Bobby Jindal can garner national support for a presidential foray! Now that being said i did not think he could have "bought" the governernors mansion in Louisiana either! I like him he just does not come across nationally if that makes any since.

Makes perfect since Oldshooter. I have listened to Jindal, and he is much like Paul. He just kinda stands there, and tells the truth. Not very dynamic in appearance or shiny. He'd never win in my opinion. America wants someone pretty, and flamboyant. Honesty doesn't really enter into the mix when they speak, as long as they speak well. Obama is proof of that. JMO

So is Palin .

 Not sure where you're going with that ms, not sure you know either but I'm sure its way to the left!

She a quiter

[ironglow]

  MS:
   Most people quit SOMETHING to move on to the next challenge. Some quit one job to take a better one. Historically, some quit farming to run for congress or presidency. Some quit college to enter missions. Many of our breve troops quit jobs to enter the military. Many people, such as Hitlery, Obama and dozens of others quit the senate to run for office.
    All of us should be very pleased that our forefathers quit their farms, cobbler benches, accounting desks and forges...so they could join the heroes, starting at Lexington and Concord.
  Arten't you at all impressed that so many cooks, welders, bankers, bakers and janitors quit their trade long enough to to fight Nazi Germany and the Empire of Japan?
  The only active adult person who may not have to quit something in order to take on a new task, would be the one who is idle and doing nothing.

  Your label of "quitter" seems to be a simple statement..plus being a quitter is often the mark of someone who moves to bigger and better things..

[ms]

  MS:
   Most people quit SOMETHING to move on to the next challenge. Some quit one job to take a better one. Historically, some quit farming to run for congress or presidency. Some quit college to enter missions. Many of our breve troops quit jobs to enter the military. Many people, such as Hitlery, Obama and dozens of others quit the senate to run for office.
    All of us should be very pleased that our forefathers quit their farms, cobbler benches, accounting desks and forges...so they could join the heroes, starting at Lexington and Concord.
  Arten't you at all impressed that so many cooks, welders, bankers, bakers and janitors quit their trade long enough to to fight Nazi Germany and the Empire of Japan?
  The only active adult person who may not have to quit something in order to take on a new task, would be the one who is idle and doing nothing.

  Your label of "quitter" seems to be a simple statement..plus being a quitter is often the mark of someone who moves to bigger and better things..

You know as well as I do why she quit she couldn't take it. You guys think she  can handle the white house I DON'T. For things bigger and better I wish her the best. Are you sober today?

[ironglow]

  MS:
   Why did you just quit posting? Why didn't you just go on and on ...and on and on...

  Obviously you don't understand gangster politics as the Democrats (taking their cue from Chicago) are practicing now. There have been some 16 or 18 trumped up charges placed  against her. She has PROVEN every one of them to be false, but in the meantime it has cost the Palins some half million dollars. How long would you fight that way..up to $1,000,000 or $2,000,000? Just where would you say, "It's time to move on the bigger and better things anyway..?

[gypsyman]

I think that ms's testosterone level is overriding his common sense level,(aka BillyBob Clinton). You know, women are only good for one thing!!  gypsyman

[ms]

I think that ms's testosterone level is overriding his common sense level,(aka BillyBob Clinton). You know, women are only good for one thing!!  gypsyman

In 2012 the truth will come out about her affair. Then she can write another book.

[Dee]

ms, I am going to have to agree with ironglow on this one. Palin did, in my opinion the best thing she could have done. Back off  and fight another day. It is one thing to fight to win, it is an entirely different matter to fight for the sake of fighting.
ironglow has hit you with the facts whether you accept them or not. Out of the 16 accusations she has been cleared of all 16 of them. Hmmmmmmm. That should tell even you something. The clowns had almost shut the governor's office down with false accusations because they were afraid of Palin's growing power with the people. Her power is still growing, because she is REAL PEOPLE, just like the rest of us. To her, a spade is STILL JUST A SHOVEL.

[Dee]

I think that ms's testosterone level is overriding his common sense level,(aka BillyBob Clinton). You know, women are only good for one thing!!  gypsyman

In 2012 the truth will come out about her affair. Then she can write another book.

ms, do you have a stack of Globe, and National Enquirers sitting by your toilet, and recliner? Five minutes on the Internet will tell you where this crap is coming from. Even if she DID have an affair, SO WHAT? JFK, CLINTON, LBJ, FDR, all were alley cats in their prime. Even Reagan had been married multiple times.
If a fighter pilot reads Mad Magazine does that mean he is unfit to fly? Personal matters such as affairs OUTSIDE GOVERNMENT is no ones business. It is the stuff gossipy old ladies swell up about.

[ms]

I think that ms's testosterone level is overriding his common sense level,(aka BillyBob Clinton). You know, women are only good for one thing!!  gypsyman

In 2012 the truth will come out about her affair. Then she can write another book.

ms, do you have a stack of Globe, and National Enquirers sitting by your toilet, and recliner? Five minutes on the Internet will tell you where this crap is coming from. Even if she DID have an affair, SO WHAT? JFK, CLINTON, LBJ, FDR, all were alley cats in their prime. Even Reagan had been married multiple times.
If a fighter pilot reads Mad Magazine does that mean he is unfit to fly? Personal matters such as affairs OUTSIDE GOVERNMENT is no ones business. It is the stuff gossipy old ladies swell up about.

I think that's the real reason why she left office. Just wait for the book.

[ms]

ms, I am going to have to agree with ironglow on this one. Palin did, in my opinion the best thing she could have done. Back off  and fight another day. It is one thing to fight to win, it is an entirely different matter to fight for the sake of fighting.
ironglow has hit you with the facts whether you accept them or not. Out of the 16 accusations she has been cleared of all 16 of them. Hmmmmmmm. That should tell even you something. The clowns had almost shut the governor's office down with false accusations because they were afraid of Palin's growing power with the people. Her power is still growing, because she is REAL PEOPLE, just like the rest of us. To her, a spade is STILL JUST A SHOVEL.

I know the facts. But are they the real facts?

[Dee]

ms, if the accusations were real, the liberal media would have reveled in the crucifixion of Palin. They still would. Never has anyone been so scrutinized as her. Are you HOPING for her downfall and failure in some macabre way? Affair or not, it is no ones business but, her and her families.