New SAMCC barrel

[Double D]

The paint is not tacky this morning, but it is gritty.  If it had been windy the past couple of days I would say it is dirt blowing in under th shop door.   I will let this coat dry for another day and see if it can be sanded.  If so, I will apply another coat and evaluate...but it's looking more and more like a trip to the hardware store and color matching!

[GGaskill]

Is it coarsely gritty or finely gritty?  I don't remember how finely ground the pigment is; could it be too coarsely ground pigment?  And I think 60° is a little cold even for commercial paint.  Maybe bring the pieces into the basement for a little more warmth.

[Double D]

finely gritty, and do think it is the pigment, and it's actually in the 70's in the shop.

[GGaskill]

Well, maybe put the pigment in your tumbler along with some ball bearings and let it run overnight.  Then make a new batch of paint.  Or just hit it with some fine sand paper and knock off the tops.

[Double D]

We'll see what it's like in the morning.

I do have ball bearings....but I am also ready to move on...we will see what tomorrow brings.

[GGaskill]

Have you added a second or third coat?  Did that improve the coverage?

[Double D]

The second coat did improve the coverage and dried faster. Evaluation may be delayed a few days as it may be to hazardous to go out to the shop!

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[RocklockI]

Take some pigment to a good paint shop.

Have the oldest , crotchest guy there grind , mix and blend your paint to order . Make HIM write ...whatever color you instruct him to write on the lid .

Call it good and debate to the death what the color looked like 300 years ago , stand your ground Marine .
 
If they dont have a time machine and a nice cammera we will never know .

Of course the big talkers never have a time machine . End game you win ,send them packing .

BTW I just bought a minty H&R M-1 Garand ! I'm dying to shoot it but we have bad weather coming here too . Today was nearly 80 tomorrow rain , snow , cold temps .

 

[GGaskill]

At least it is not -17°.

[Double D]

At least it is not -17°.

The storm hasn't hit yet!

[Double D]

Went an checked things this morning and the great paint experiment is over...enough...it's off to color matching!

[RocklockI]

More snow here too today ,maybe 1 inch or so . It will all be gone by this afternoon .

[carronader]

you guys know I'm not sticky about being perfect on design , drawings , construction on barrel or carriage...........but when you're going after such a famous , historic piece     you gotta get it right. Damn thing has got to relate to the recognised image of whatever your making. You know it's pretty good when you know you'll never get a knighthood or win a kewpie...........you can say what you think.
 (smirk)

[Double D]

you guys know I'm not sticky about being perfect on design , drawings , construction on barrel or carriage...........but when you're going after such a famous , historic piece     you gotta get it right. Damn thing has got to relate to the recognised image of whatever your making. You know it's pretty good when you know you'll never get a knighthood or win a kewpie...........you can say what you think.
 (smirk)

Well 5 inches of heavy wet sleet like snow since sunup...I going to go see if mineral spirits will cut this gummy mess!

[carronader]

Douglas , I appreciated your attempt to use old paint recipe , and would have liked to see it work. Nothing is lost when you encourage others to try old methods , the wide  range of subjects on this forum keeps it alive , and the best cannon site out there.
 I promise I'm not smirking at the thought of you digging that gunge off . You can trust me on that can't you .

[Double D]

Trust a Scotsman, that's a question that never need be asked!!!

It was worth a try, but it's time to move on...new things were tried.  Some worked some didn't. 

My skills are crude and not on par a with some who post their work here and some who don't post their work here and should!!!.  It doesn't matter...I am active building...and that is all that matters.

[GGaskill]

I think the weather was too cold for the oil to set up.  Save some paint and paint a scrap once it gets hot up there.

[Double D]

I think the weather was too cold for the oil to set up.  Save some paint and paint a scrap once it get hot up there.

I don't know George, the oil I spilled on the bench set up pretty good

[GGaskill]

I don't know chearge, the oil I spilled on the bench set up pretty good

But I bet you wiped that up so it wasn't very thick once finished.

[1Southpaw]

I have 2 boxes of Calcimine  paint . Just add water and go .  Mother hated that type paint , could not wash walls .  I used to have yellow  but the kids got to use it on an old wood box they had as a play house in the 70's .  I think the 2 boxes I have left are blue.   Want to see a picture ?

[Double D]

Actually Valspar Clear Anti-rust gloss with C-45, Mx-21, S-2. t-45 makes Clear Corona 233-6 which is an eyball match verified by 10 eyeballs looks just fine..all other ideas are now history!

[GGaskill]

...all other ideas are now history!

But the new paint is not in the style of the original.   

 

[Double D]

Some liberties have to be taken....the original SAMCC gun had a very deep dark walnut strain over boxwood sealede with varthane....Nelson 32 PDR were iron not brass.

[RocklockI]

What shall you call this new color ?

[Double D]

It's Yellow ochre....

[RocklockI]

Is it tracable to NIST ?
Is it measured in Nano Meters or Angstrams ? Well of course ,Yes it is , but did they include it on the sticker ?

Gary
 

[carronader]

ok point taken......I'll start a thread on wheelmaking and see what interest there is DD . It will be a bit like yours , honest attempt at doing........not talking about. Irrelevant comments can be ignored , friendly abuse more than welcome.

[dan610324]

scotish hhhmmmmmm , they cant even make an decent liquor
and now he will try to invent the wheel again 

all way back at the late stone age they could make a wheel

thomas , take a log and cut 4" thick slices from it
 then drill a hole in the center and you will have your wheel

even a swede can do that , but ok we know how to make vodka also 

was this friendly enough ??

[carronader]

Damn Swede , we invented just about everything else    so why not the wheel ?   Yanks took all the good ideas    used their superior marketing and made all the money.   Swedes    aaaaa  you make Volvos   oops Chinese bought that   smirk.

[GGaskill]

So did you take any pix with more than one coat of the home made paint?  How about some with the hardware store mix?