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Offline 95Road King

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Silencer on a .22
« on: October 31, 2009, 01:25:53 PM »
Local gun store showed me a Ruger 10-22 rifle with a factory silencer. We went into the basement and fired it twice. Pretty neat!! I didn't know silencers were legal?? Had one of those small red dot sites on it too. Price was close to $700.00 !!!!!

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Re: Silencer on a .22
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2009, 01:48:48 PM »
They are legal but there is a extra tax and more indepth background check. The tax is not transferable. Basically the same proces as for a fullauto weapon.

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Re: Silencer on a .22
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2009, 02:05:57 PM »
if  you  get  one  get the  one peice  deal

you change the  whole barrel  as it  is itegral  with the suppresor

looks  like  a bull  barrel...only  light weight

like you say  they  are  around  $700

you  can  have a handi rifle  done  in  any  sub-sonic caliber
made  to  look  loke a shot gun

got  $800  price  on  44      me furnish barrel and  gun

200$   transfer  fee  to  ATF......been  ther done that....nothing  to it
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Re: Silencer on a .22
« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2009, 02:36:59 PM »
Silencers and full-auto permits are not availible in all states,I know N.Y. you can't have them.
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Re: Silencer on a .22
« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2009, 02:53:24 PM »
Washinton State has a law that really makes sense ( yea, right ). IF a person obtains the proper Federal Tax Stamp, they can purchase, and legal own a suppressor here...but...it is illegal to attach it to a firearm.
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Re: Silencer on a .22
« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2009, 09:43:24 AM »
...but...it is illegal to attach discharge the firearm with it attached......

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Re: Silencer on a .22
« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2009, 08:26:30 PM »
Hey there H/R9mm, thanks for the correction, I didn't know that. SO I guess it's legal to attach and use it as a wall-hanger??
Still a sad state of affairs. Motor-vehicles require a working muffler, so as not to disturb the peace, whats really wrong with a working muffler for a firearm, also to keep from bothering folks with excess noise??
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Re: Silencer on a .22
« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2009, 02:06:50 AM »
In addition to the cost of the rifle that transfer fee is $200. No dealer in their right mind would sell it to you without you paying that fee and handling the paperwork. Even if they did you'd be liable to BATFE if you take it home without paying the $200. They will have your life history at that point and I think can enter your home to look around and search for it at any time with no warrant. I'm not 100% certain on that but am fairly sure. Not worth the hassle to me.


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Re: Silencer on a .22
« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2009, 06:36:37 AM »
In addition to the cost of the rifle that transfer fee is $200. No dealer in their right mind would sell it to you without you paying that fee and handling the paperwork. Even if they did you'd be liable to BATFE if you take it home without paying the $200. They will have your life history at that point and I think can enter your home to look around and search for it at any time with no warrant. I'm not 100% certain on that but am fairly sure. Not worth the hassle to me.

The way dealers are required to handle the transfer is you purchase the can from them that you want/need. The dealer retains the can and YOU do all the leg work including having your local sheriff sign off of the form 4 after he does a back-round check. Then you send the paper work along with the $200 to the tax office. When the tax office gets around to the paper work after getting the car fixed, house painted, manicure, teeth cleaned, shopping at Maces, getting a divorce, having a garage sale, e.t.c, then they put a stamp on your form 4 and return it to your dealer. That is ALL the tax office does because EVERYTHING is done for them by you before the paper work is submitted. At that time the dealer calls you to come get the can.

A bit of a pain but it's better then the other option  ;D

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Re: Silencer on a .22
« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2009, 06:05:53 PM »
In addition to the cost of the rifle that transfer fee is $200. No dealer in their right mind would sell it to you without you paying that fee and handling the paperwork. Even if they did you'd be liable to BATFE if you take it home without paying the $200. They will have your life history at that point and I think can enter your home to look around and search for it at any time with no warrant. I'm not 100% certain on that but am fairly sure. Not worth the hassle to me.

The way dealers are required to handle the transfer is you purchase the can from them that you want/need. The dealer retains the can and YOU do all the leg work including having your local sheriff sign off of the form 4 after he does a back-round check. Then you send the paper work along with the $200 to the tax office. When the tax office gets around to the paper work after getting the car fixed, house painted, manicure, teeth cleaned, shopping at Maces, getting a divorce, having a garage sale, e.t.c, then they put a stamp on your form 4 and return it to your dealer. That is ALL the tax office does because EVERYTHING is done for them by you before the paper work is submitted. At that time the dealer calls you to come get the can.

A bit of a pain but it's better then the other option  ;D

the  dealer  gets  a letter  from  ATF
telling  him  to prodceed with the transfer  as soon as  posable
and  the    mr.  xyz  is the  now  registered  owner
thats how the dealer  knows to call you
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Re: Silencer on a .22
« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2009, 11:43:13 AM »
I watched a guy shoot a 10/22 wth an intregal superssor barrel last summer. All I heard was the action cycling. You have to use subsonic ammo to achieve that. I don't want a full auto capable firearm but I would like to have a supressed .22 rifle.
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Re: Silencer on a .22
« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2009, 12:22:28 PM »
They will have your life history at that point and I think can enter your home to look around and search for it at any time with no warrant. I'm not 100% certain on that but am fairly sure. Not worth the hassle to me.

  The part about entering your home is untrue.  It's a popular urban legend, repeated often enough that people are "fairly sure" it's true because they have heard it enough times.  If you have an FFL (a business license, not a C&R), they can enter the address listed as the place of business.  That's the bit of truth that the "they can walk right in" legend is based upon.  If they want to see your silencer, machine gun or short barreled rifle, they have to ask.  They may indicate that declining to show it to them is 'a bad idea', but you don't have to talk to any law enforcement officers without your attorney.  You can show them the gun, answere whatever questions without your lawyer, but that's your choise.  Buying a registered weapon IN NO WAY waves your Fourth Ammendment rights.  Buying a "class 3" item doesn't mean having a "machine gun license" it means you buy a registered weapon.  There is a huge difference.

  As for the part about them knowing your whole life's story, yes, they do.  That's true regardless of wether or not you file an ATF form and pay the $200.  Our lives are verry much a matter of record.  Since the Social Security number has become a de-facto identification number, with everything from out credit records, tax records, and health records catalogued by that number, we have no privacy.  If "They" want to know, "They" can find out.  Should any one of us fall under scrutiny for whatever reason, the amount of information at the disposal of those who want to take the time to look it up is comprehensive.

  If you want the silencer, buy it.  It won't change your life in any way except that you will be able to shoot without hearing protection and your garden will soon be rabbit free.

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Re: Silencer on a .22
« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2009, 12:32:40 PM »
ATF  man  ask  me  if  i had  any  full auto  ect

i  told  him  yes  but  if  he  wanted to  see  it he had to leave and  come  back
because  i  didn't  want  him  or  any one  to know  where  i keep  it

he  said/ask  ''you  just  have  the  one?''
''yes''
he  said  ''i  am not  worried  about  one''

another  time  i just  showed  the  ATF  guy  my  paper  work
another  time  i ask  how  he  new  i had  suppressor  sawed off shot  gun  ect
he said  he  didnt    he  just  always  ask  and  observe  how  the  dealer  answeres
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Re: Silencer on a .22
« Reply #13 on: December 22, 2009, 12:53:32 PM »
i live in the fast failing republik of california...

last i heard, silencers are illegal here...period.

i'd like to have a .22 fully supressed...and wouldn't mind paying the price...i'd prefer it on a BA.
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