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Offline JRoberts

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H&R 20 guage
« on: November 01, 2009, 05:16:07 AM »
Just got my old shotgun back from my Dad. He gave it to me when I was 12 for christmas. We used it a few times then it was put away for years. I just went and got it today and was curious how to figure out the serial number. I think it is a H&R Pardner but it looks alot like a Topper as well.

Does anyone have any info on this gun? I have been searching google for 3 hours and found nothing.

Serial number is AT288204 if anyone knows how to break it down





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Re: H&R 20 guage
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2009, 05:34:13 AM »
See the FAQs and Help sticky in the H&R Rifle forum, there's a build year list to help determine when it was made.... and a LOT more.  ;)

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Re: H&R 20 guage
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2009, 05:37:08 AM »
Thanks and will do. I must have missed the sticky some how  ::)


Ok I read through that and figured out it was made in 1979 which is pretty cool. But would you say its a pardner or Topper? Anyway I can tell on the gun? Length of barrel maybe?
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Re: H&R 20 guage
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2009, 05:52:51 AM »
Dunno, but I don't think H&R Inc had a Pardner, I'm pretty sure their Topper frames were marked Topper tho. Maybe someone else with more H&R shotgun knowledge can answer that question, I only have one shotgun made by them, H&R Inc went out of business in 1986, H&R 1871 won't fit barrels to your frame, although you can fit a second hand barrel yourself, that's in the FAQs too if you're interested.  ;)

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Re: H&R 20 guage
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2009, 06:05:00 AM »
Ok im a little confused is H&R Inc. And H&R 1871 too different companies? Mine saya H&R Inc and something about Gardner Mass. Im guessing thats where it was manufactured.
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Re: H&R 20 guage
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2009, 06:09:58 AM »
answered my own question found this link not sure if its in the FAQ but maybe it should be. its a list of every shotgun produced by H&R pre-1986

http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/EveryGun/GunMfgCategoryDetail.aspx?id=2101

also this is every gun produced by H&R pre-1986

http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/EveryGun/GunMfgDetail.aspx?id=438

it has links to specific models and types
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Re: H&R 20 guage
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2009, 06:13:18 AM »
They're two different companies, H&R Inc went out of business in 1986. Although both were in the same factory in Gardner MA, they aren't the same mfr. When Remington bought H&R and Marlin last year, they closed the Gardner plant and moved production to Ilion NY, customer support is in Madison NC.

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Re: H&R 20 guage
« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2009, 10:47:15 AM »
Well I found out that H&R Inc. never produced the Pardner that was started when H&R 1871 took over so my shotgun is a Topper. Now I just gotta figure out what model. I am guessing the 88 but not for certain. Any ideas?
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Re: H&R 20 guage
« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2009, 12:10:25 PM »
I have one the same year....clearly marked Topper 088....shoot a 18 1/2 inch smoothbore 20 guage with it and the 357 mag barrel i got from the classifieds locks up and headspaces perfectly on the same frame.........
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Re: H&R 20 guage
« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2009, 01:40:29 PM »
The model, gauge and chamber length should all be stamped on the barrel.  If I had to guess I would say a model 088.
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Re: H&R 20 guage
« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2009, 01:50:32 PM »
Only thing stamped on it is on the left side of the reciever that says H&R inc. Gardner mass made in usa us patent no 3988848 ser no at288204

Then on the top of the chamber it says H&R 20 Ga. 3" Full
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