Changing of the guard at Museum of the United States Navy

[cannonmn]

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[Double D]

Get your resume out John!!!

[cannonmn]

Nah!  "Out of the frying pan, ..." not for me, too much politics. 

[GGaskill]

Is Dr. Furgol aware of your crusade?  If not, maybe time to make him aware.  If so, maybe time to remind him.  Maybe changes could be made while there is some "confusion" as to who is really in charge.

[cannonmn]

Is Dr. Furgol aware of your crusade?

Everyone involved in the Naval History and Heritage Command, including the museum folks, are involved in a giant game of "musical chairs" at this time.  When I can determine that the music has stopped and they've been seated for a bit, I'll probably be talking to whichever lucky soul wound up with responsibility for the cannons.

I do think the chances that we'll get something done are improving.  There sure wasn't anything happening the way it was.

[Cannoneer]

Cannonmn,
Seeing Kim Nielsen's name reminded me about something that was said (some time ago) about two Dahlgren boat howitzers that are part of the Navy Museum's collection.
Here's the howitzer mounted on the bronze marsilly carriage that you had also recorded on a visit to the nuseum, and below that gun are two pics of a howitzer on a Dahlgren sliding carriage that FTB1-SS recently posted.
When you were last at the museum do you recall if the howitzer that FTB1-SS posted photos of was also on display inside the museum?
On any earlier visits to the museum, do you remember ever seeing either one of these Dahlgrens on display outdoors by the museum's entrance?

[cannonmn]

When you were last at the museum do you recall if the howitzer that FTB1-SS posted photos of was also on display inside the museum?
On any earlier visits to the museum, do you remember ever seeing either one of these Dahlgrens on display outdoors by the museum's entrance?

1.  yes

2.  no

Just for the heck of it, the 24 pounder on ship carriage is indeed called a boat howitzer, although as far as I know they were nearly always used in a kind of broadside/pivot mounting on medium-sized ships, particularly those operating on rivers.

The 20 pounder rifle (the one on the  bronze carriage) wasn't called a boat howitzer.  I think the markings on top of the barrel will bear that out, should say "20 pdr. Rifle" or something like that.

[Cannoneer]

I know, especially if J. Dahlgren were responsible for its I.D., because to him one of the defining qualities of a howitzer would be the fact that it had a smooth bore; but I think that Mr. Nielsen may have referred to that cannon as a boat howitzer (I'm not sure).

Do you know if there are any other boat howitzers on display inside the museum other than the cannon that FTB1-SS posted?
Are there any Dahlgren boat howitzers on display in the near vicinity ouside of the museum, that you know of? 

[cannonmn]

Do you know if there are any other boat howitzers on display inside the museum other than the cannon that FTB1-SS posted?
Are there any Dahlgren boat howitzers on display in the near vicinity ouside of the museum, that you know of?

 
 
 1.  Yes there's a light Dahlgren boat howitzer dated about 1870 as I recall.  It is mounted on the iron or steel field carriage.  It has always been kept about half way back in the museum, on the right side as you walk from the front door toward the back of the place.

2.  No there are not, I'm sure of that.  I'm very familiar with most all the cannons they have.

Are you looking for anything in particular?
 
 
 
 

[Cannoneer]

My questions are only intended to satisfy my own curiosity. A few years ago Kim Nielsen had told me that the museum had two Dahlgren boat howitzers in its collection, and that one of them (sometime in its history) had been displayed out of doors for many years where it had developed a patina, whereas the the other howitzer had a more polished appearance.
I thought that the 20-pdr rifled Dahlgren might have been one of the cannons he was talking about, but the howitzer on a field carriage (which I haven't seen, and didn't know about) that you mention must be one of the howitzers he was discussing.