Glock 45 acp handguns

[Oldshooter]

I know there will be several that dont like 45's so I did "outa the goodness of my heart" give you a choice but I'm really interested in a new GLOCK 45 compact. Heck maybe you can change my mind. Its been done but ususally by my wife!   

[Savage]

The 30 is a good piece. The 36 is better for concealed carry. The single stack pistol fits the description of "Compact" much better than the 30. Truth be told, compact and Glock don't belong in the same sentence. Although I have a mdl 36, it doesn't get carried as much these days as my Officer's size 1911. Actually carry a PF9 more than either. Lazy I guess!
I voted mdl 36.
Savage

[Ak.Hiker]

I have a Glock 36 and love it. The power to weight ratio is very good especially when loaded with a 230 grain +P load. It is much easier to conceal than my other Glocks due to the fact that its width is 1.13 inches compared to the Glock 30 at 1.27 inches. It is 4 oz. lighter as well. I do have small hands so the 36 grips are a very good fit for me.   

[Oldshooter]

Yea, when i looked at them yesterday the slim grip appealed to me also. Wondering when the new generation is coming out  and what it might bring to the table?

[Tonk]

Oldshooter you will not hear me complain about carrying a 45acp! Now since 1905, the 45acp has been going strong in a variety of pistols. I have a Glock model 21-SF, love the 4.5 inch barrel, as it fits into my back jeans pocket very well, leaving the grip stick out so I can grab it in a big hurry if need be ok.

I also have the Glock model 36, a sub-compact and easier to conceal as a CCW weapon. My carry weapons sometimes vary just a wee bit. In 45acp it is the model 21-SF and model 36 (sub-compact) the other carry selection is the model 20 and the model 29, both 10mm.

There are no flies on that Glock 45acp caliber, no matter which model you choose.

[Tonk]

Oldshooter......I went with the Glock 30 because it is the same width as my model 29 and I can use the same holster setup. The model 36 is thiner but has the same length barrel as the 30 model Glock.

I know have both the model 21-SF & model 30 in 45acp. I personally use the sub-compact for close up work and not much in shooting targets. The half grip puts twice as much recoil to the hand verses a full grip model like the 21 Glock.

[Oldshooter]

There are no flies on that Glock 45acp caliber, no matter which model you choose.

I agree with that!

Its a hard decision to make but i may take the 36 with the in line mag due to the fact that it feels more like my 21 does although it does not carry as many rounds.

[Tonk]

Savage one thing I wish to convey across this board and that is simply that a Kel-Tec PF-9 is NO WHERE near the word DEPENDABLE like that of a GLOCK or SIG for that matter. I have owned a total of 4 Kel-Tecs and everyone of them had their individual problems......such as NOT fire hollow point ammo, Not fire HOT loads without Jamming on the 2nd or 3rd round. Please do not bring up the subject of Limp Wristing....I Do NOT!!!

The PF-9 is a cheap pocket pistol with NO WARRANTY against NOT FIRING when you need it to go BANG BANG BANG simply put sir. They give off a False Feeling of being secure with a handgun.
So buyer be wear of what you bet your life on period!!!   

The GLOCK, SIG SAUER, H & K are all good insurance policy's and the KEL-TECS are a "Hope & Pray" it goes Bang when you pull that trigger. 

[Savage]

Tonk,
Seems you've jumped to a few false conclusions. Let me take a moment to point out a few things.
I never said that all Kel Tecs were as dependable as Glocks. A Glock is one of the few pistols that I'd almost trust, "Out of the Box".
My experience with Kel Tecs has been a little different than the ones you related. If I tell you that the ones I own are trustworthy, believe it. I don't carry a weapon that has not proven it's self to be reliable. For what they are designed to do, they do it well. Once one is proven reliable, if properly maintained and fed good ammo, (Yep, mine feed hollowpoints) the provability that it will fire when called upon is about as good as a mechanical device can be. The Kel Tecs are not range guns. They are not made to stand up to thousands of rounds. If used as such, they will not last for long.  Just to clear up one other thing: NO FIREARM is warranted to work all the time, under all conditions. As all mechanical things are individual unto themselves, to make such a blanket statement about the Kel Tecs is arrogant and uninformed.
Savage

[Tonk]

Savage if you want to really know how others feel about those KEL-TEC'S, just get on the forum for Kel-Tec pistols. Now half those folks have problems and the other half or 50% love their little pocket guns. So be it and I don't really care what others use or purchase. However, since I have spent the money and purchased 4 such Kel-Tec products I feel like I have the right to speak my peace concerning those Jamming little pistols! It took me 4 such pistols before I found one that was even worthy of keeping and that one still malfunctions once in a while.........NOT TRUST WORTHY as a CCW tool.

I don't mind you calling my statements this or that, just don't forget to call me for supper savvy. I am a steak & potatoes kind a guy!!! To many people get carried away with the fact that Kel-Tec makes a very small pistol and it is convenient to carry in their pocket etc. Yes, you are correct, those little Kel-Tec's will not hold up to a lot of abuse or shots fired, especially with self-defense ammo. However, that neither is the whole story according to some on the Kel-Tec forum, there are those that state they have fired 4000 & 5000 rounds through one without a hiccup.     Ummmmmmmm OK and I have a bridge I would like to sell them too!!!    We all know that anything mechanical is subject to a malfunction but those are going to be far and few between with a GLOCK period. Now take the knot out of your shorts kind sir!   

[Savage]

Tonk,
Our experiences have been quite different with Kel Tecs.  I own/have owned (2) P32s (2) P3ATs (2) P-11s and (1) PF9. The ony problem I have had was with the assembly pin walking out on one the the P3ATs, (Early Model). I still own all of the pistols but one P32 I sold to a county officer I know. I qualified either a P32 or a P3AT as a backup gun for years, as did several officers I worked with. Any gun I carry has to prove reliable to my satisfaction, as all these have. With a few dozen other choices available from my safe, I still frequently carry one of the Kel Tecs. Don't see that changing soon.
Savage

[Tonk]

Savage when we purchased the very first Kel-Tec (P-11) I figured that all would be peaches and ice-cream but that was not the case. It would not handle hollow points and the pistol would only shoot Blazer FMJ ammo. The accuracy was only so so at 12 feet compared to several other pistols we tried. I won't bad mouth that Loooooong trigger pull because I had no problem with that issue period.

However, the wife certainly could not pull the trigger back on that pistol and then the clip started to drop loose, so rather than send it back, I oppted to trade the pistol for a PF-9. Now it was a real eye-opener on the trigger pull.....nice in comparison. The wife liked it too but the blessed pistol would not shoot HP ammo worth a hoot!

We actually purchased 2 of those PF-9's together, one had a ramp modification done to it and it would fire HP ammo much better than mine did, I did not notice this fact until later after cleaning the pistol. Now both pistols were within 60 numbers of each other serial number wise. However they certainly did have different type barrel ramps. I got feed up with the both of them, one the clip would not stay in hardly after the 3rd shot.  Accuracy was better with the one PF-9  but she limp wristed the pistol to much. Both were far better shooting groups verses the P-11.

Nonetheless I traded both of them off for a Khar pistol in a .40cal results were much better with that pistol but the wife could not shoot the Khar because it was to much recoil. A couple months later I picked up a new Kel-TEC that had several modifications done to it by factory. Clip stayed in, feed ramp was polished  and accuracy was very good at 21- ft It still has a tendency to Jam but only if I try to fire it fast like our Glocks. It could be my finger is not letting the trigger come all the way forward.  This one will shoot HP ammo

[1sourdough]

 I was looking for a 45 a while back. I know there's a price difference but the 2 main ones were a Glock 21 & a H&K  HK-45c. As luck would have it a local FTF deal came up with a slightly used HK-45c for $700. This has the 'varient 1' DA/SA trigger. I was just out shooting the last few days & I think this gun just went to 1st place for woods carry. It's nice & light, even while grouse hunting with the shotgun. It shoots right in there, much better than some of the DAO types I have shot. I know the price is up there compared to the Glocks but just something to think about. 

[Tonk]

1-Sourdough there are no "flies" on an H&K, a very reliable pistol to carry for a fact. Also a quality made pistol too.