Author Topic: Core Lokts preformance (Read 4742 times)

Rustyinfla · « **on:** November 17, 2009, 10:30:25 AM »

MY son was sittin around deer camp this weekend and some guy was sayin that he'd had bad luck with Remington Core Lokts out of his .270 Win. I was wonderin if anyone else has had problems with them? How about in any other caliber?

Thanks,

Swampman · « **Reply #1 on:** November 17, 2009, 10:57:44 AM »

For thin skinned game I prefer them over any other bullet.

Slowhanddd · « **Reply #2 on:** November 17, 2009, 10:59:53 AM »

That's all I shoot in my Handi and my Remmy 760.130 grain.Kills them dead.Never have had a bullit recovered.Always has passed through on heart lung shots out to 250yds.That's a long shot were I hunt.Most shots are 50 to 125 yds.Don't get the bang flops they do on tv,but never run more than 30-50 yds with a blood trail a blind man could follow.The only B/F was with my old 45-70 Marlin.Slow

c1skout · « **Reply #3 on:** November 17, 2009, 11:08:56 AM »

A friend of mine lost a large (200lbs) 10pt a few years ago due to 130gn 270 core-lokts. He had shot it at close range (30-40yds) in the shoulder but the deer kept going up and over a ridge. He heard another shot and went to check it out... seems the next fellow stopped the buck. My friend told the guy what happened and together they did some investigative surgery. My friends bullet had penetrated to the shoulder bone and then vaporized.
My Handi loves the core-lokts and I've taken numerous deer with them, all one shot kills, but thanks to my friends experience I don't hunt with them anymore. I use handloads or federals.

TribReady · « **Reply #4 on:** November 17, 2009, 11:45:38 AM »

Pretty much only heard good things. That's what my dad shoots out of his Rem .270.

Daughter's rifle (.243) is strictly Federals since they've been working, but I wouldn't hesitate on CoreLokts

Spanky · « **Reply #5 on:** November 17, 2009, 11:50:59 AM »

Quote from: c1skout on November 17, 2009, 11:08:56 AM

My friends bullet had penetrated to the shoulder bone and then vaporized.

I doubt it. $:-\$
A shoulder shot at 30-40 yds. with Core Lokt's in a 270 would have been meat on the table.
The only thing that would have "vaporized" would have been the bone.

Spanky

mechanic · « **Reply #6 on:** November 17, 2009, 12:03:56 PM »

Cor Locs have proven themselves for several years. Are they the best for everything? Of course not. But for deer they excel.

Cheesehead · « **Reply #7 on:** November 17, 2009, 12:24:04 PM »

Check out this Corelokt thread. I would call this proven performance.

http://www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,185442.msg1098914902.html#msg1098914902

Cheese

spikehorn · « **Reply #8 on:** November 17, 2009, 01:06:44 PM »

It's all I shoot in my 308 ultra varmint and my Stevens 200 308. My son took his first buck with the Stevens and it was a bang flop at 65 yards. I took one with the ultra varmint at 160 yards and it only went 20 yards. Have only ever had to shoot a deer more than once one time with the core lokts and that was my fault due to bad shot placement. Have not killed a deer with my Handi 30-30 yet but the 150gr and 170gr core lokts shoot the best out it.

petemi · « **Reply #9 on:** November 17, 2009, 02:01:57 PM »

I've only had bad experiences with Core Lokts. I nailed a nice six point with a .30-30 at 30 yards in the beginning of a blizzard. He took off, and I couldn't wait because of the weather. To make a long story short, coyotes found him first. A slim pencil hole through both lungs. Virtually no damage.

Wayne, .30-06 same deal. I saw the shot and it was a good hit.....never got the deer.

You could give me all the Core Lokts you have, and all I'd do with them is punch holes in paper. In my opinion, they're not worth squat on game. I know a lot of folks brag about them, but perhaps they haven't tried a real bullet, and there's lots out there.

Pete

zacharoo · « **Reply #10 on:** November 17, 2009, 02:05:59 PM »

Some people blame the bullet others the gun BUT NEVER THE SHOOTER!Zacharoo

petemi · « **Reply #11 on:** November 17, 2009, 02:18:24 PM »

Zach

Both shots were good. Mine was a double lunger, proved the next day. Wayne's was right there also. I saw it. I'm not blaming the gun or the shooter. Just the bullet. I'll never trust them again. I shoot Hornadys and Winchesters, and what I hit goes down.

Pete

cwlongshot · « **Reply #12 on:** November 17, 2009, 02:18:34 PM »

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MY son was sittin around deer camp this weekend and some guy was sayin that he'd had bad luck with Remington Core Lokts out of his .270 Win. I was wonderin if anyone else has had problems with them? How about in any other caliber?

What bullet weight? What distance? Was it a clear shot or thru brush? There are lots of variables.

Too lite a bullet (under 130 in this caliber) CAN blow up on big game.

the lighter end of bullets can be more fragile at closer ranges. Add some bullet contact before striking game can initiate expansion. Bullet blow up is a possibility. This is one reason I prefer the heaver bullets for any caliber i use.

Unfortunately it human nature for people to blame anything but them selves for such problems. After all, IT MUST be the (insert product here) as I NEVER do this or that...

Obviously I do not know this hunter or the situation of which you speak. But based on this bullets track record, I seriously doubt its all the fault of the bullet. Things do happen and defects occur that could cause this. But that's few and far between AND something that can happen with anything at any time.

IMHO, The Remington Corlokt wouldn't be as well known as it is or have the following it does if it didn't work and work consistently well. Sure there are better bullets available, but few with its track record for constantly putting game in the freezer...

CW

Mac11700 · « **Reply #13 on:** November 17, 2009, 02:23:02 PM »

I've seen 270 Core Lokts fail on a few deer..but usually not when they are put in the vitals.I've also seen several other brands fail from time to time as well..Any bullet can fail..not just Core-Lokts...It happens...The main thing is they work well the majority of time for many people..(along with most other bullets as well)..and usually folks switch brands when something unexpected happens along these lines,just as I and others have done..The folks who swear by them..won't believe it happens..and it gets chocked up to shooter error..even when it isn't..I've had the 270 Remmy's fail 2 times..both with the 270..Once by myself..the other with a friend hunting with me..on the same trip...I could see his hit on the deer clearly..since we were walking together when the buck was spotted by me..and he hadn't filled his tag yet..I watched his stalk with in 85 yards and his shot BTW...Both of these deer were shot under 100 yards..and point on the shoulder blade. mine was on the run..his was standing behind some logs in his bed..Both of these bullets failed to penetrate the shoulder bone completely and really made a mess of the shoulders..Both deer were recovered luckily..When we got to checking..we had both purchased from the same store..and had the same lot # of ammo..I sent both boxes into Remington..and got 4 boxes back a couple months later..Nothing was found wrong with any of the ammo according to them..Truthfully I didn't expect any other response from them on this..because I have sent ammo back to them before (different calibers) and it always is given a clean bill of heath..no matter what..even with obvious defects showing...

I can only say if one has never had an issue with it..my wish is for their continued success while using it..I'm like so many others..I won't risk a hunting trip by using it..even though I know the odds on getting some that fail is remote..I would always be concerned..and don't need that distraction when hunting..The ammo is the cheapest part of my hunts..and I'll use what I have had good luck with..and save the cheaper stuff for practice..

Mac

zacharoo · « **Reply #14 on:** November 17, 2009, 02:25:33 PM »

The deadlest mushroom in the woods . That is their slogan. Sorry if I hurt someone feelings or offended anyone. My family has been using core lock for year(and pleny of them). Yes there have been some flooks but far between. Usually there is something besides the bullet.BUT DEFECTS ARE TO BE SEEN SOMETIMES! Excuse me stepping on someone's toes.

Zacharoo

petemi · « **Reply #15 on:** November 17, 2009, 02:30:15 PM »

Sorry, C.W. Once you get a bad taste in your mouth it's hard to get rid of. I'll just never trust a core lokt. At first I thought the .30-30 velocity was too slow to open it up. Then Wayne had the same problem with the .06 and I knew that wasn't the answer. That old .30-30 spit out Winchester 170 gr. Silvertips for 50 years without a hitch. When I tried the Core Lokts, I was trying to improve on best.

Pete

michaelt454 · « **Reply #16 on:** November 17, 2009, 02:34:28 PM »

Ditto CW, anything can happen to any product, but the overwhelming majority of evidence says that these bullets are extremely effective on Whitetail deer. I have shot quite a few deer with 270 core lockts, all with the same predictable performance, usually found just under the skin on the far side of the deer if shot in the shoulder or a pass through with a good exit wound. BTW whitetail deer are tough, but as far as big game goes, I don't know of any smaller framed thinner skinned animal that is considered "big game" than whitetailed deer. Especially here in the southern half of Texas, deer have thin skin, lean meat, and thin fur, that can allow a slighty defective bullet to fail to expand although this has never happened to me on some pretty small bodied deer.

Swampman · « **Reply #17 on:** November 17, 2009, 02:35:12 PM »

I wouldn't ever consider a Winchester bullet the best. I try to avoid them when I can.

petemi · « **Reply #18 on:** November 17, 2009, 02:38:06 PM »

Too bad, guy. Some 40 odd deer might question that.

The 168 gr. Supremes out of my .308 are awe inspiring for long range accuracy.

Pete

zacharoo · « **Reply #19 on:** November 17, 2009, 02:39:18 PM »

The old winchester silver tip bullets were good bullets . Why did they go to the power point or what ever they call their bullets now?

Swampman · « **Reply #20 on:** November 17, 2009, 02:44:02 PM »

Quote from: petemi on November 17, 2009, 02:38:06 PM

Too bad, guy. Some 40 odd deer might question that.

The 168 gr. Supremes out of my .308 are awe inspiring for long range accuracy.

Pete

I don't think that proves anything. Some guys actully think the Nosler BT is a useful projectile too.

petemi · « **Reply #21 on:** November 17, 2009, 02:45:34 PM »

Zach, they still are. My kid just brought home 4 boxes of 170 gr. Silvertips from Wal-Mart.

Pete

zacharoo · « **Reply #22 on:** November 17, 2009, 02:50:26 PM »

My father and his brothers he had 3 . Only one living the youngest . He is 84 this month. They pulled and pressed 30-06 military ball and replaced with 150 gr. core locks or silver tips which ever they had. The AP rounds were replaced with 165 corelocks. They were used to shoot deer in front of dogs in South Louisiana. A deer running in front of dogs is a lot harder to kill than still hunting. The adrinalin in them keeps them moving till all the blood is neer gone. Saw a lot of deer killed with them. I am 59years old. My father was 83 when de died in June of 2003. He killed 2 or 3 deer the winter before. I can remember for sure. Always use 150 or 165 gr. core locks. The only living brother has gotten to old for the 30-06 so he shoots a 243 win. now. But he uses 100 gr. core locks. I know because I reload for him . Always kills his freezer full. BUT HE IS STILL AN EXCELENT SHOT. That makes a big difference as you say. I still have three younger brothers that hunt in front of dogs. They all shoot various caliber remington rifles with core locks in all.

Zacharoo

zacharoo · « **Reply #23 on:** November 17, 2009, 02:52:40 PM »

I wish that the components!!! Silver tip bullets in 308 would be sold or made to sell. The old looked like alluminum tips on them. Zacharoo

petemi · « **Reply #24 on:** November 17, 2009, 02:53:36 PM »

Swamp. Accuracy is what it is. The 168 gr. bT has PROVEN to be the best load for my rifle. I wonder why they shoot it in competition if it is so bad?

Pete

Swampman · « **Reply #25 on:** November 17, 2009, 02:58:47 PM »

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They all shoot various caliber remington rifles with core locks in all.

Very smart men

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I wonder why they shoot it in competition if it is so bad?

Paper isn't hard to kill.

petemi · « **Reply #26 on:** November 17, 2009, 03:10:41 PM »

'Nuf said. Good night.

Pete

wtroger · « **Reply #27 on:** November 17, 2009, 03:37:31 PM »

Bullets and ammo is like talking religion or politics. Everybody is right. If you are comfortable with Core-lokts then shoot them. I won't I had 150 grain in a 308 win that just knocked the hide off a Nice buck's shoulder spun him around and he stood there and looked at me. My son put a 154 gr hornady through him from a 7 X 57 Mauser and killed him. Upon investigation there was no penetration by the core-lokt at all. I haven't and won't ever use them again. Nosler bt's is all I reload with no failures to kill quickly and humanly.

Next preacher please.

ndindy · « **Reply #28 on:** November 17, 2009, 04:26:36 PM »

I tried them in my .223 and loaded them for .270. They grouped very poorly in the .223. It was the bullet, not the rifle or the shooter

Different loads and while I improved the grouping, or patterning, it never got good. It was still MOD out to about 100, but I needed MOPraireDog for that rifle.

Switched to matchkings and that's what I'm still using. I sold the .270 without ever firing a shot out of it and gave the ammo away. If my friend who got the ammo ever gets around to shooting it I'll know how they do.

rickt300 · « **Reply #29 on:** November 17, 2009, 07:06:30 PM »

I've taken a lot of game with corelokts, mostly 150 and 165 gr. 30 caliber bullets out of a 308 and 30-06. However I much prefer the heaviest available Ballistic tip for caliber. The 150 grain Ballistic Tip in 7MM is way better than the 150 gr. corelokt in the same diameter.